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To: Mom MD; metmom; ealgeone; imardmd1; caww; aMorePerfectUnion; Iscool; boatbums; ...
Those who are in the body of CHRIST are The Redeemed. Rev 5 shows the Redeemed in Heaven, with our crowns from the Bema Judgment Seat, as witnesses when the Lamb takes the seven sealed scroll to open it and begin the LAST seven years before GOD sets up the Kingdom of The Lord Christ.

That said, there is a reason America is not shown in the Revelation. We are perhaps witnessing the actual chaos in America rising through the fraudulent election and the response to same. If Biden is put in the white house and of course Harris replaces him, then our American support for Israel will wane dramatically, as the new administration follows the European treachery toward Israel.

However, if our duly elected president-elect from 2016 acts to prevent the coup attempt, then the dead soul leftists will create a hell in the large cities and bring a continuous revolt to the duly elected president because he and his followers have defeated their coup d'état.

The chaos will split the populace into tribal feuding that will effect even the military, since the obamaroid was able to infect his social justice LIES into even the military.

Think what it will look like when the trucking industry refuses to risk their lives delivering food and fuel to large cities in terrorist chaos. The starving city dwellers will be attacking the burbs to get food and fuel, the LAWLESSNES will negate America as a source for defending Israel's right to exist. The martial law imposed to try and restore order will require the military on a large scale within the nation. Support for the foreign stations of the air and sea and Army forces will be so contracted as to restrict their activation.

AND in the midst of such growing chaos in America, The Departure of the Redeemed in the Rapture will explode the chaos to a extent which will erase American power from the calculus of the seven years of the Tribulation.

12 posted on 12/13/2020 10:06:32 AM PST by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: MHGinTN

I hope the reason that America is not in revelation is if there are enough Christians left in this country to be very disruptive at the rapture. Sometimes I wonder


13 posted on 12/13/2020 10:18:57 AM PST by Mom MD
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To: MHGinTN

Yes that would result in massive chaos - worldwide too


17 posted on 12/13/2020 10:33:21 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: MHGinTN

Amen


18 posted on 12/13/2020 10:36:50 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: MHGinTN
I agree with much of what you have stated, I would add that the on going lock downs cover two things.

First they hide the fact that the economy is tanking, inflation should be sky rocketing, but by locking down and wiping out the middle class it retracts the money going in to the market.

Second I believe it is to minimize the effect of the rapture on unbelievers when it comes.

On short term future I expect Isaiah 17, Psalm 83 and Ezekiel 38 to happen by this spring, no matter who is the CIC of the USA.

Keep looking up our redemption draws near, thank you Lord Jesus!!!

23 posted on 12/13/2020 11:39:22 AM PST by MAAG (Tetelestai, paid in full. You are as righteous as God is. Double jeopardy is forbidden.)
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To: MHGinTN

We’ve exchanged views, before, and you know my position, so I won’t revisit that discussion. However, your not-Ezekiel status might prompt greater usage of qualifying language: “My study of these matters leads me to believe...”

I think that eschatology is hot enough as a topic that we all ought to exhibit great reticence to go about unequivocally declaring anything other than the Scriptures, themselves. Our particular ideas would be more graciously, and I dare say more appealingly, couched in the clear language of opinion.

Winsom argumens win some arguments.


43 posted on 12/13/2020 7:44:38 PM PST by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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To: MHGinTN
That said, there is a reason America is not shown in the Revelation

revelation doesn't have or mention

either....
79 posted on 12/15/2020 4:39:12 AM PST by Cronos ( )
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