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What God Said Will Happen
RR ^ | 9/27/20 | Daymond Duck

Posted on 09/27/2020 12:15:02 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal

Several people have asked for my opinion on Israel’s recent peace treaties with the UAE and Bahrain, so this is my effort to put it into writing.

At the Sept. 15, 2020, signing ceremony, Israel’s Prime Min. Netanyahu said, “This peace will eventually expand to include other Arab states, and ultimately, it can end the Arab-Israel conflict once and for all.”

These treaties have been called historic, a profound geopolitical shift, stunning, a fundamental reordering of the Middle East, etc.

These treaties are not the 7-year covenant with many that will be confirmed by the Antichrist (Dan. 9:27) and triggers the Tribulation Period, but they are a very significant step in that direction and will eventually lead to people declaring “peace and safety” in the world (I Thess. 5:3).

A Foreign Policy statement released by the White House on Sept. 15, 2020, even says, “The Parties shall be guided in their relations by the provisions of the Charter of the United Nations and the principles of international law governing relations among States. In particular, they shall recognize and respect each other’s sovereignty and right to live in peace and security (the same thing as “peace and safety”), develop friendly relations of cooperation between them and their peoples, and settle all disputes between them by peaceful means.”

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/abraham-accords-peace-agreement-treaty-of-peace-diplomatic-relations-and-full-normalization-between-the-united-arab-emirates-and-the-state-of-israel/

A second Foreign Policy statement released by the White House on the same date reads, (The UAE and Israel are) “Determined to ensure lasting peace, stability, security and prosperity (the same thing as “peace and safety”) for both their States and to develop and enhance their dynamic and innovative economies.”

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/abraham-accords-peace-agreement-treaty-of-peace-diplomatic-relations-and-full-normalization-between-the-united-arab-emirates-and-the-state-of-israel/

A third Foreign Policy statement released by the White House on the same date reads, “The parties discussed their shared commitment to advancing peace and security (the same thing as “peace and safety”) in the Middle East stressing the importance of embracing the vision of the Abraham Accords, widening the circle of peace; recognizing each State’s right to sovereignty and to live in peace and security, and continuing the efforts to achieve a just, comprehensive, and enduring resolution of the Israeli- Palestinian conflict.”

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/abraham-accords-declaration-peace-cooperation-constructive-diplomatic-friendly-relations/

Two more nations have now acknowledged Israel’s right to exist, and more nations will follow suit, but the fact that some nations are willing to make peace with Israel doesn’t mean that there are not other nations and groups that want to destroy Israel (peace and safety with many doesn’t mean peace and safety with everybody). Many nations have noticed Israel’s wealth (silver and gold; cattle and goods, etc.). The Arabs want to increase their wealth by negotiating and trading with Israel. Russia, Iran, Turkey, and others want to increase their wealth by plundering Israel (Ezek. 38:11-12). Netanyahu said the peace deals will bring billions of dollars into Israel’s economy, making the plunder more enticing. The peace treaties (called the “Abraham Accords because Arabs and Jews are both descendants of Abraham) suggest that Israel is now safer (as in dwelling safely; Ezek. 38:11). They make an attack by Saudi Arabia less likely; and they make an attack by Russia, Turkey, and Iran more likely, etc. (Ezek. 38:13). The U.S. will sell the UAE and Bahrain more powerful weapons (F-35 jets, high-tech equipment, etc.) that will strengthen the Arab alliance against Iran; be used against Iran’s allies in Libya, Yemen and other places; and put a greater strain on Iran’s economy (increasing Iran’s need for plunder). The peace treaties have caused the PA to feel abandoned and increased the pressure on Israel’s terrorist enemies (Hezbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad, etc.). The PA can now be expected to do one of two things: 1) Step up their war against Israel (which will fulfill Bible prophecy), or 2) Sit down at the negotiating table (which will result in the 7-year covenant). They will likely go to war first and sit down at the negotiating table later (after their defeat). On Sept. 16, 2020, the U.S. Ambassador to Israel, David Friedman said, “The peace treaties between Israel, Bahrain and the UAE mark the beginning of the end of the Israeli-Arab conflict.” On Sept. 16, 2020, Jared Kushner, Trump’s Advisor and Son-in-Law, said he is very confident that the peace treaties will make an ultimate resolution with the Palestinians more likely. According to the Bible, a worthless treaty with many will be signed by the Antichrist after the Rapture. According to Pres. Trump, the peace treaties allow Muslims to visit the holy sites in Israel (the Temple Mount and more), including the Al Aqsa Mosque on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem. Israel and the U.S. believe this opens the door for the Temple to be rebuilt. Many prophecy teachers believe the 7-year covenant with many will give Israel permission to rebuild the Temple, and they will quickly do it after the Tribulation Period begins. So, 72 years (about one generation; Matt. 24:32-35) after Israel has become a nation in one day (Isa. 66:7-9) before the Tribulation Period, the nation is rich, possibly on the verge of many peace treaties that are expected to lead to peace and safety in the Middle East, the door to rebuilding the Temple could be starting to open, and Israel’s enemies (Russia, Turkey, Iran, etc.) are amassing north of Israel just like the Bible says (Ezek. 38:15). We cannot know the day or the hour (Matt. 24:36), but we can see the day approaching (Heb. 10:25) and know when our redemption is near (Luke 21:28). Here are some other things that recently caught my attention:

One, a friend sent this link to me of prophecy teacher Don Stewart’s fascinating interview of Dennis Swick, the owner and founder of His Channel TV:

https://hischannel.com/WorldNewsBriefing/1050A5

On Sept. 17, 2020, Swick was interviewed on Stewart’s “World News Briefing” TV program.

About 30 min. into the program, Stewart and Swick started talking about the fact that Elon Musk has been authorized to put up 12,000 satellites into orbit (he wants to increase it to 40,000) to make high-speed Internet and TV service available everywhere on earth.

Many Bible prophecy teachers know that this will literally make it possible for the gospel to go all over the world, for the Antichrist and False Prophet to track all buying and selling, for everyone on earth to see the Antichrist kill the Two Witnesses, to see the bodies of the Two Witnesses laying in the street in Jerusalem, and for everyone on earth to see the Two Witnesses raised from the dead and Raptured into heaven at the middle of the Tribulation Period (Rev. 11).

Stewart wanted to know when this system (called Starlink) will be complete, “in five years”?

Swick, who receives technical notes from Musk, replied “less than that. Some people will go online this year, and the system will be operational in a few years” (it just needs to be operational 3 ½ years after the Tribulation Period begins).

Two, a second thing that caught my attention in the Stewart-Swick interview concerns social distancing.

Bill Gates wants to force everyone on earth to be numbered, tattooed with a quantum dot tattoo, and vaccinated for the Coronavirus.

He wants to deny those that refuse the right to hold a job, buy and sell, etc.

The enzyme that activates the quantum dots in Gates’ vaccine is called Luciferase (Lucifer was Satan’s name when he fell; Isa. 14:12).

Swick talked about why officials want 7 feet of social distancing (He probably misspoke because it is 6 feet), and he said scanners may misread people’s numbers if the people and their numbers are too close together, but if the people are at least 7 feet (he means 6 feet) apart, the scanners will accurately read the numbers.

I don’t know if this is right, but Swick has excellent knowledge of technology, and the media is now reporting that 6 feet of social distancing may not be enough.

Three, on Sept. 17, 2020, Rev. Franklin Graham was talking about what God said will happen, and I think it is important to hear Dr. Graham’s opinion.

He was talking about his upcoming Prayer March in Washington, D.C., on Sept. 26, 2020, and he told the Christian Post, “I just sense there is something moving in our country. I don’t believe that our country is going to be spared from God’s judgment. We are not a Christian nation. We are a secular nation, and the secularists are wanting to strip God out of everything.

“Maybe this election could possibly slow that down, but we know there’s going to be a one-world system one day. We know that people aren’t going to be able to buy, sell, or trade unless they have the mark of the Antichrist. We know that there will be a great war.

“We see God’s judgment coming against this earth for the rejection of His Son, and we see the Lord Jesus Christ coming back triumphant to establish a new Heaven and a new Earth. We know how the last chapters of history are written.

“I think we’re kind of in that period of time on God’s clock where some of these things might just be beginning to unfold. To say that we’re not going to be able to reset God’s clock, in the sense where He’s going to change His mind, no, it’s written. But He might delay just a little bit.”

https://www.christianpost.com/news/franklin-graham-ahead-of-national-prayer-march-us-is-crumbling-god-is-only-hope.html

I agree with everything Dr. Graham said: God is still on the throne, and prayer changes things.

By the time this article is posted, the Prayer March will be history, but Christians need to keep praying.

We are in a spiritual battle for the heart and soul of America.

Four, concerning Syria, Russia’s economy is hurting, Putin is moving more equipment and weapons to Syria, and Russia is becoming more aggressive. This has prompted the U.S. to send 100 troops with vehicles, helicopters and jets back to Syria to protect the oil fields that are under Kurdish control. A U.S. company has just inked a deal with the Kurds to develop the oilfields and sell the crude, and the Russians are very unhappy. Five, concerning natural disasters, several wildfires have now merged, creating the largest California wildfire on record since record-keeping started in 1932, and 83% of the state of Utah is now experiencing an “extreme” drought emergency.

Six, concerning wickedness, in Chicago, IL, homicides are up 52% over 2019, and the vast majority of those killed are people of color.

Black Lives Matter and defunding the police are about overthrowing the U.S. government, not about protecting or bettering the lives of people of color.

In New York City, homicides are up 27% over 2019; murder, robbery, domestic violence, and other crimes are also up, and the story is similar in other cities.

Now, even before we know who the nominee will be, left-wing activists are threatening violent riots if Pres. Trump and Mitch McConnell try to fill the Supreme Court seat left vacant by the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

Trump and McConnell have not caved, and they have said there will be a nomination and vote.

These things are setting the stage for what God said will happen.

God loves you, and if you have not done so, sincerely admit that you are a sinner; believe that Jesus is the virgin born, sinless Son of God, who died for the sins of the world, was buried and raised from the dead; ask Him to forgive your sins, cleanse you, come into your heart and be your Saviour; then tell someone that you have done this.


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To: itsahoot
Christ gave assurances in Matt 24:13 that tribulations WOULD COME to the Christians and the Jesus-movement-Jewish sect would be nearly crushed out before 67 AD, but to endure to the end

This also echoes in what Jesus Christ tells us to do - repent, believe, be baptized in the Name of the Father, Son and holy Spirit, eat of His spiritual body and endure to the end.

The Christ won us our salvation and through our belief in Him, enabled by the freely given grace of God, we reach sanctification through to grow in God's love and through the final sanctification to be saved

This is exactly as we read in Matthew about how Jesus tells us to hold on to the end and through the grace of God we will be with Him in heaven

Don't believe the fake rapture philosophy that denies Christ's words

81 posted on 09/28/2020 1:34:06 AM PDT by Cronos (19 years on FR)
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To: matthew fuller; Roman_War_Criminal

well, more likely Joel Osteen, Darby etc. - all the rapturists


82 posted on 09/28/2020 1:34:57 AM PDT by Cronos (19 years on FR)
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To: metmom; Roman_War_Criminal

When you look at the passage in Matthew 24

The Destruction of the Temple Foretold. 1 [a]Jesus left the temple area and was going away, when his disciples approached him to point out the temple buildings. 2 [b]He said to them in reply, “You see all these things, do you not? Amen, I say to you, there will not be left here a stone upon another stone that will not be thrown down.”

The Beginning of Calamities. 3 As he was sitting on the Mount of Olives,[c] the disciples approached him privately and said, “Tell us, when will this happen, and what sign will there be of your coming, and of the end of the age?” 4 [d]Jesus said to them in reply, “See that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, saying, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and they will deceive many. 6 You will hear of wars[e] and reports of wars; see that you are not alarmed, for these things must happen, but it will not yet be the end. 7 Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom; there will be famines and earthquakes from place to place. 8 [f]All these are the beginning of the labor pains. 9 [g]Then they will hand you over to persecution, and they will kill you. You will be hated by all nations because of my name. 10 And then many will be led into sin; they will betray and hate one another. 11 Many false prophets will arise and deceive many; 12 and because of the increase of evildoing, the love of many will grow cold. 13 But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached throughout the world as a witness to all nations,[h] and then the end will come.

The Great Tribulation.[i] 15 “When you see the desolating abomination[j] spoken of through Daniel the prophet standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), 16 then those in Judea must flee[k] to the mountains, 17 [l]a person on the housetop must not go down to get things out of his house, 18 a person in the field must not return to get his cloak. 19 Woe to pregnant women and nursing mothers in those days. 20 [m]Pray that your flight not be in winter or on the sabbath, 21 [n]for at that time there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until now, nor ever will be. 22 And if those days had not been shortened, no one would be saved; but for the sake of the elect they will be shortened. 23 If anyone says to you then, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. 24 False messiahs and false prophets will arise, and they will perform signs and wonders so great as to deceive, if that were possible, even the elect. 25 Behold, I have told it to you beforehand. 26 So if they say to you, ‘He is in the desert,’ do not go out there; if they say, ‘He is in the inner rooms,’ do not believe it.[o] 27 For just as lightning comes from the east and is seen as far as the west, so will the coming of the Son of Man be. 28 Wherever the corpse is, there the vultures will gather.

The Coming of the Son of Man. 29 [p]“Immediately after the tribulation of those days,

the sun will be darkened,
and the moon will not give its light,
and the stars will fall from the sky,
and the powers of the heavens will be shaken.

30 And then the sign of the Son of Man[q] will appear in heaven, and all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming upon the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he will send out his angels[r] with a trumpet blast, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.

The Lesson of the Fig Tree.[s] 32 “Learn a lesson from the fig tree. When its branch becomes tender and sprouts leaves, you know that summer is near. 33 In the same way, when you see all these things, know that he is near, at the gates. 34 Amen, I say to you, this generation[t] will not pass away until all these things have taken place. 35 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away.

NOTE:

1. This generation will not pass away. Jesus is addressing those listening to Him THEN
Tye end of the age happeneD, as Jesus foretold it would happen during the lifetime of the generation that heard him in 30 AD, with the 2nd temple having the abomination of Emperor worship sanctioned by The high priest.

Did you miss the part of Matthew 23


32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.

33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?

34 Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:

35 That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.

36 Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.

37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

38 Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.”

Note. This generation.

Note. The destruction of 2nd temple Jerusalem

And let’s look at Matthew 24

“24 And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.

2 And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.”

Note He talks of the immanent destruction of the temple, not 2000 years later

And
“6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.

7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.

68 AD the Julio Claudian dynasty fell, and wars between Otho, Vitellus and Vespasian threatened to destroy the Pax Augustus. And the Parthians were threatening an invasion.

AND THE ZEALOT JEWISH SECT TRIGGERED THE JEWISH REVOLT.

Read Josephus who wrote at that time and described perfectly the signs in heaven , the earthquakes, the wars and the famines


83 posted on 09/28/2020 1:37:48 AM PDT by Cronos (19 years on FR)
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To: Just mythoughts

Let’s read John 3

3 Jesus answered and said to him, “Amen, amen, I say to you, no one can see the kingdom of God without being born[c] from above.” 4 Nicodemus said to him, “How can a person once grown old be born again? Surely he cannot reenter his mother’s womb and be born again, can he?” 5 Jesus answered, “Amen, amen, I say to you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of water and Spirit. 6 What is born of flesh is flesh and what is born of spirit is spirit. 7 Do not be amazed that I told you, ‘You must be born from above.’

the phrase ‘born from above’ or ‘born again’ (John 3:3) is clarified as ‘being born of water and Spirit’ (John 3:5).

In Greek, this phrase is, literally, “born of water and Spirit,” indicating one birth of water-and-Spirit, rather than “born of water and of the Spirit,”

In the water-and-Spirit rebirth that takes place at baptism, the repentant sinner is transformed from a state of sin to the state of grace. Peter mentioned this transformation from sin to grace when he exhorted people to “be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit” (Acts 2:38).

The context of Jesus’ statements in John 3 makes it clear that he was referring to water baptism. Shortly before Jesus teaches Nicodemus about the necessity and regenerating effect of baptism, he himself was baptized by John the Baptist, and the circumstances are striking: Jesus goes down into the water, and as he is baptized, the heavens open, the Holy Spirit descends upon him in the form of a dove, and the voice of God the Father speaks from heaven, saying, “This is my beloved Son” (cf. Matt. 3:13–17; Mark 1:9–11; Luke 3:21–22; John 1:30–34). This scene gives us a graphic depiction of what happens at baptism: We are baptized with water, symbolizing our dying with Christ (Rom. 6:3) and our rising with Christ to the newness of life (Rom. 6:4–5); we receive the gift of sanctifying grace and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit (1 Cor. 12:13; Gal. 3:27); and we are adopted as God’s sons (Rom. 8:15–17).

After our Lord’s teaching that it is necessary for salvation to be born from above by water and the Spirit (John 3:1–21), “Jesus and his disciples went into the land of Judea; there he remained with them and baptized” (John 3:22).

, “Do you not know that all of us who have been baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, so that as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life” (Rom. 6:3–4).


84 posted on 09/28/2020 1:44:22 AM PDT by Cronos (19 years on FR)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal; MHGinTN; metmom
Ignore & shun the child!

Roger that bro. Been doing exactly that, for quite some time now. Even when I was a catholic, I was not a preterist. 😁🤪 Thank God I am an ex catholic. 👍 I think the preterist follows you around. 👎

85 posted on 09/28/2020 2:28:27 AM PDT by Mark17 (USAF Retired. Father of a US Air Force commissioned officer, and trained Air Force combat pilot.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal; MHGinTN; metmom; MAAG; Luircin; boatbums
I forgot to mention bros and bro ettes, see you in the clouds, at the pre trib rapture. 👍😁
86 posted on 09/28/2020 2:40:14 AM PDT by Mark17 (USAF Retired. Father of a US Air Force commissioned officer, and trained Air Force combat pilot.)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal; Just mythoughts; metmom
Have you read the book of revelations?
After these things, I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that they should not blow upon the earth, nor upon the sea, nor on any tree.

2 And I saw another angel ascending from the rising of the sun, having the sign of the living God; and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,

3 Saying: Hurt not the earth, nor the sea, nor the trees, till we sign the servants of our God in their foreheads.
You see -- before Revelations 13 you have GOD putting a mark on people who would be saved foreheads

If you are wondering how you get "the sign of God on the forehead" then look at your baptism in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the holy spirit.

The "sealing of the saints" is taken from Ezekiel 9 4 And the Lord said to him: Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem: and mark Thau upon the foreheads of the men that sigh, and mourn for all the abominations that are committed in the midst thereof.

The word for "mark" in hebrew is simply the Hebrew letter "Thau" which looks like a CROSS.

The early Church saw this THAU as a sign of the cross made on the forehead of the believers.

The Greek word for seal was understood as a baptismal image. The seal, then, is the water: they descend into the water dead, and they arise alive

The image in Revelation 7 depicts God's protection of His people from evil. These people are SEALED BY HIS POWER THROUGH BAPTISM.

NOW look at

God's sign Satan's perversion
Revelations 5:6 11 Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon.
Rev 7:3 Saying: Hurt not the earth, nor the sea, nor the trees, till we sign the servants of our God in their foreheads

NOTE about the signs on the forehead and the lambs - Satan trys to pervert baptism with the sign and the lamb with his "like a lamb". The second beast is a parody of the Lamb. Though it looks "like a lamb" it is another agent of satan - it's two horns are an allusion to the ram-beast seen in daniel 8

You refer to the mark of the beast - the coin of

remember The verses in the book of the Apocalypse says

Apoc 13:11 Then I saw another beast come up out of the earth; it had two horns like a lamb’s but spoke like a dragon.

12 It wielded all the authority of the first beast in its sight and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose mortal wound had been healed.

13 It performed great signs, even making fire come down from heaven to earth in the sight of everyone.

14 It deceived the inhabitants of the earth with the signs it was allowed to perform in the sight of the first beast, telling them to make an image for the beast who had been wounded by the sword and revived.

15 It was then permitted to breathe life into the beast’s image, so that the beast’s image could speak and [could] have anyone who did not worship it put to death.

16 It forced all the people, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to be given a stamped image on their right hands or their foreheads,

17 so that no one could buy or sell except one who had the stamped image of the beast’s name or the number that stood for its name.

18 [b]Wisdom is needed here; one who understands can calculate the number of the beast, for it is a number that stands for a person. His number is six hundred and sixty-six.
This beast with two horns "like a lamb" but which "spoken like a dragon" is Satan's parody of the lamb.

A key note is the difference between where the beasts arise -- the first beast arises out of the sea - the sea indicates gentile nations.

This parody of the Lamb represents corrupt leaders within Jerusalem. This parody is later identified by John as the "false prophet" in Rev 16:13; 19:20; 20:10)

As the "false prophet" this parody sets itself up against God's prophets in the days leading to 69 AD.

The false religious leaders who led the persecution of the Christ-sect of Jews in the days leading up to the destruction of the temple in 69 AD are indicated here

The mark of the beast is again a parody of the SIGN on the believers as we read in the letter to the Philadelphians -- the SIGN or Tau being the Hebrew letter which looks like a cross - so the sign of the cross as the christians did was the sign of God

The mark of the beast is linked to the number of the beast - as "wisdom is needed here... it stands for a person..." -- to reveal the identity of the beast to the Christians while hiding it from outsiders, St john used Gematria, the rabbinic numering system for names. When the Gematrian numbers of Nero's official name in Hebrew are added together (50 + 200 + 6+50 + 100 + 60 + 200) they total 666. The Christians KNew that 666 is the number of Nero

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Remember back to the Mark of the Lamb alluded to in the 6th letter to the churches, to the Philadelphians - God's mark is mentioned specifically in the sixth seal of the initial vision (7:3). In Heaven God's faithful "servants shall worship Him; they shall see His face, and His name shall be on their foreheads"..22:4

The mark of the beast is Satan's parody of the sign of the cross. The sign on the forehead talks of loyalty and that on the hand of what we do with the loyalty

We see the same in 14:9 "anyone who worships the beast and its image" is shown as "receiving a mark on his forehead or on his hand"

Nero is the human whose symbol is 666, who demanded worship of himself.

This is the only time in history when the Church was persecuted by both the beast (the Roman empire) and the harlot (Jerusalem authorities)

ST John twice pauses to say "here is a call for the endurance and faith of the saints" (13:10, 14:12). The first time, this is following a statement about not being in armed conflict against the beast "if anyone slays with the sword, with the sword must he be slain" (13:10)

The second time is not to have the mark of the beast -- to be clear the admonition agians thte mark of the beast is "do not worship the earthly power of the roman empire - THAT is the mark of the beast

87 posted on 09/28/2020 2:45:26 AM PDT by Cronos (19 years on FR)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal; Just mythoughts; metmom
And a point of note, metmom - the Lamb in revelations 5 has 7 eyes and 7 horns - that Lamb is Jesus, with 7 eyes and horns -- the 7 is the number for completeness. What did I tell you, metmom? That the book of the apocalypse is filled with numbers as a symbol. 7 eyes = complete sight or omniscience. 7 "horns" -- Jesus with horns? The seven horns of the lamb signify power - omnipotence since "horns" were a symbol in the Old Testament for power

88 posted on 09/28/2020 2:45:37 AM PDT by Cronos (19 years on FR)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal; Just mythoughts; metmom
And war criminal -- Apocalypse 13:16-18 is based on Ezekiel 8 and 9. The "mark" symbolized the spiritual condition of the inhabitants of Jerusalem. The ones with the "mark" were in allegiance with God. However, in Apocalypse, the mark is reversed. That is to say, the mark was on those who were against God and had allegiance to the "beast."

John wrote that the number "is the number of a man's name; and his number is 666." This tells us that those who received the "mark" were actually in allegiance with a "man," an actually person of the first century. So, who was he? Lucius Domitius Ahenobarbus! Better known as Nero Caesar.

John used a puzzle called gematria in which numbers are used to represent certain letters. John used this puzzle to reveal Nero without actually writing down his name. Remember, the early churches were being persecuted during this time—not only from the Jews, but also from the Romans. The numerical values of the Hebrew letters in Neron Kesar (Nero Caesar) are:

Nero's Name

Nero Caesar fits the gematria code number "666." Using this code, his name would be rendered as "NRWN QSR." (NRWN QSR). The number values are:

N = 50
R = 200
W = 6
N = 50
Q = 100
S = 60
R = 200

which, when added together, equals 666. The fact that Nero fits the description of the "beast" is well documented. According to Suetonius, he murdered his parents, wife, brother, aunt, and many others close to him and of high station in Rome. He was a torturer, a homosexual rapist, and a sodomite. He even married two young boys and paraded them around as his wives. One of the boys, whose name was Sporus, was castrated by Nero. He was truly bestial in his character, depravity, and actions. He devised a kind of game: covered with the skin of some wild animal, he was let loose from a cage and attacked the private parts of men and women, who were bound at stakes. He also initiated the war against the Jews which led to the destruction of Jerusalem in 70AD..

Nero’s persecution, which was initiated in A.D.64, was the first ever Roman assault on Christianity. Roman historian Tacitus (A.D. 56-117) spoke of Nero's "cruel nature" that "put to death so many innocent men." He records the scene in Rome when the persecution of Christians broke out: "And their death was aggravated with mockeries, insomuch that, wrapped in the hides of wild beasts, they were torn to pieces by dogs, or fastened to crosses to be set on fire, that when the darkness fell they might be burned to illuminate the night." Christians were crucified, beheaded, burnt alive, and used as torches to light the palace gardens. Historically, Nero is the one that persecuted Christians beyond all comparison. St. John’s banishment to Patmos (where he wrote the book of Apocalypse) was itself a result of the great persecution of Nero. The apostle Paul was tortured and then beheaded by the evil Emperor Nero at Rome in A.D. 67. The apostle Peter, who was crucified upside down, was another victim of Nero, .

As Church father Eusebius notes: "Nero was the first of the emperors who showed himself an enemy of the divine religion." Sulpicius Severus concurs: "He first attempted to abolish the name of Christian." In his Annals, Roman historian Tacitus points to those who were persecuted as "those who . . . were vulgarly called Christians." Roman historian Suetonius concurs, for in a list of the few "positive" contributions of Nero as emperor, he includes the fact that Nero persecuted Christians: "During his reign many abuses were severely punished and put down, and no fewer new laws were made:. . . . Punishment was inflicted on the Christians, a class of men given to a new and mischievous superstition."

Noted church historian J. L. von Mosheim wrote of Nero's persecution: "Foremost in the rank of those emperors, on whom the church looks back with horror as her persecutors, stands Nero, a prince whose conduct towards the Christians admits of no palliation, but was to the last degree unprincipled and inhuman. The dreadful persecution which took place by order of this tyrant, commenced at Rome about the middle of November, in the year of our Lord 64. . . . This dreadful persecution ceased but with the death of Nero. The empire, it is well known, was not delivered from the tyranny of this monster until the year 68, when he put an end to his own life." (L. von Mosheim, Historical Commentaries, I:138,139).

His bestial cruelty is evidenced in the writings of the Roman historian Suetonius (A.D. 70-160), who speaks of Nero's "cruelty of disposition" evidencing itself at an early age. He documents Nero's evil and states: "neither discrimination or moderation [were employed] in putting to death whosoever he pleased on any pretext whatever." Suetonius notes that Nero "compelled four hundred senators and six hundred Roman knights, some of whom were well to do and of unblemished reputation, to fight in the arena."

Roman naturalist Pliny the Elder (A.D. 23-79) described Nero as "the destroyer of the human race" and "the poison of the world." Roman satirist Juvenal (A.D. 60-140) speaks of "Nero's cruel and bloody tyranny." Elsewhere, he calls Nero a "cruel tyrant."

Nero so affected the imagination that the pagan writer Apollinius of Tyana, a contemporary of Nero, specifically mentions that Nero was called a "beast": "In my travels, which have been wider than ever man yet accomplished, I have seen many, many wild beasts of Arabia and India; but this beast, that is commonly called a Tyrant, I know not how many heads it has, nor if it be crooked of claw, and armed with horrible fangs. . . . And of wild beasts you cannot say that they were ever known to eat their own mother, but Nero has gorged himself on this diet."


How Nero fulfills Prophesy

In Apocalypse 13:7, the Beast is said to "make war with the saints and to overcome them." Apocalypse 13:5 says that the beast would conduct such blasphemous warfare for a specific period of time: 42 months. The Neronic persecution was instituted in 64 AD and lasted until his death in June 68 AD, which is three and a half years, or 42 months! Nero fits the bill for the role of the beast!

Apocalypse 13:10 and 14 says the Beast not only slays by the sword, but ultimately is to die of a sword wound. Do you know how Nero died? According to Suetonius, he "drove a dagger into his throat, aided by Epaphroditus, his private secretary" (ch.49). Nero killed with the sword and was killed by the sword. That Nero did, in fact, kill by the sword is a well-attested fact. Paul, for example, is said to have died under Nero by decapitation by means of the sword. Tertullian credits "Nero's cruel sword" as providing the martyr's blood as seed for the church. He urges his Roman readers to "Consult your histories; you will there find that Nero was the first who assailed with the imperial sword the Christian sect."

Nero died in the middle of the war on June 8th, 68 AD, and Vespasian went back to Rome to fight to become the new emperor. During this time the Christians fled Jerusalem because they heeded the warning of Matthew 24:16; the Jews thought the respite was a sign from God of victory and they gathered in Jerusalem in great numbers. The Romans came back and destroyed the city.

Apocalypse 17:3 tells us that the beast is red. The red color may be indicative of the bloodshed caused by the beast. But Suetonius writes of the legend associated with Nero's ancestral parentage, which explains why he had a red beard, which was very unusual in those times.

Apocalypse 17:10 says, "And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space." The five "kings" were not ruling at the same time, for the text stated "five are fallen," meaning that five of those kings had come and gone. Then "one is," meaning the "king" who was ruling at the time Apocalypse was written. Here, in this verse, we have one of the clearest proofs for Nero being the beast. If we simply examine the list of Roman Emperors, we will be able to determine who the sixth king was. Flavius Josephus clearly points out that Julius Caesar was the first emperor of Rome, followed by Augustus; Tiberius; Caius (Caligula); Claudius; and the sixth emperor was…Nero (Antiquities, books 18 and 19), who assumed imperial power upon the death of the fifth emperor, Claudius, in October, A.D. 54. The matter is confirmed just a little later in the writings of Roman historians: Suetonius (Lives of the Twelve Caesars and Dio Cassius, Roman History 5). Nero reigned from 54AD to June of 68AD. John informs us that the seventh king was "not yet come." That would be Galba, who assumed power upon Nero's death in June, A.D. 68. But he was only to continue a "short space." As a matter of historical fact, his reign lasted but six months until January 15, A.D. 69.

What about the Beast's death-wound and his subsequent resurrection? Let us now consider John's revelation of the Beast arising from the dead (Apocalypse 13:3-4). At this point we need to reflect upon a most significant series of historical events of the A.D. 60s. First, with the death of Nero, the Roman Empire's founding family vanished from rule. Following the death of Nero was the extinction of the Julian line. Immediately, the Roman Empire was hurled into civil wars of horrible ferocity and dramatic proportions. These civil wars would strike everyone as being the very death throes of Rome, the Beast generically considered. Before the world's startled eyes, the seven-headed Beast (Rome) was toppling to its death as its sixth head (Nero) was mortally wounded with the sword.

Tacitus's detailed account of the ruin wreaked upon Rome almost equals in psychological horror, cultural devastation, and human carnage that which befell Jerusalem during the Jewish War, as recorded by Josephus and Tactius. The Roman civil wars were the first fruits of Nero's death. Josephus records that the destruction was so horrible, that the general Vespasian, "was not able to apply himself further in other wars when his native country was laid waste." Josephus agrees that during this time Rome was brought near to utter "ruin." He notes that "about this time it was that heavy calamities came about Rome on all sides." According to 4 Ezra 12:16-19, written around A.D. 100, the Empire was "in danger of falling": "In the midst of the time of that kingdom great struggles shall arise, and it shall be in danger of falling; nevertheless it shall not fall then, but shall regain its former power."

But what eventually occurred at the end of these death throes? Suetonius informs us that: "The empire, which for a long time had been unsettled and, as it were, drifting through the usurpation and violent death of three emperors, was at last taken in hand given stability by the Flavian family." Josephus sets forth this view of things when he writes: "So upon this confirmation of Vespasian's entire government, which was now settled, and upon the unexpected deliverance of the public affairs of the Romans from ruin, Vespasian turned his thoughts to what remained unsubdued in Judea." Thus, after a time of grievous civil wars, the Empire was revived by the ascending of Vespasian to the purple.

The point is not that Nero’s name is the primary identification of 666. The point is, instead, what the number meant to the seven churches. St. John’s Biblically informed readers will have already recognized many clear indications of the Beast’s identity. Nero arrived on the scene as the first great persecutor of the Church, the embodiment of the "666-ness" of the Empire, and – Lo and behold! – his very name spells out 666! It is significant that "all the earliest Christian writers on the Apocalypse, from Irenaeus down to Victorious of Pettau and Commodian in the fourth, and Andreas in the fifth, and St. Beatus in the eighth century, connect Nero, or some Roman emperor, with the Apocalyptic Beast ." There should be no reasonable doubt about this identification. St. John was writing to first-century Christians, warning them of things that were "shortly" to take place. They were engaged in the most crucial battle of history, against the Dragon and the evil Empire which he possessed. The purpose of the Apocalypse was to comfort the Church with the assurance that God was in control, so that even the awesome might of the Dragon and the Beast would not stand before the armies of Jesus Christ. Christ was wounded in His heel on Friday, the sixth day, the Day of the Beast – yet that is the day He crushed the Dragon’s head. At his most powerful, St. John says, the Beast is just a six, or a series of sixes; never a seven.

It is charged by some that Neron Kesar is merely a convenient "misspelling" of Nero’s name in Hebrew. This objection overlooks the fact that before the modern introduction of dictionaries the world was simply not as concerned as we are about uniformity in the spelling of names. Alternate spellings were common (e.g. "Joram" and "Jehoram" in the Old Testament), especially in the transliteration of words into a foreign tongue. But the allegation of misspelling is wholly wrong anyway. The form Neron Kesar is the linguistically "correct" Hebrew form, is the form found in the Talmud and other rabbinical writings, and was used by Hebrews in the first century, as archaeological evidence has shown. As F. W. Farrar observed, "the Jewish Christian would have tried the name as he thought of the name-that is in Hebrew letters. And the moment he did this the secret stood revealed. No Jew ever thought of Nero except as ‘Neron Kesar,’ and this gives at once . . . 666" (The Early Days of Christianity, Chicago and New York: Belford, Clarke& Co., 1882, p. 540). Of some related interest is the fact that if Nero’s name is written without the final "n" (i.e., the way it would occur to a Gentile to spell it in Hebrew), it yields the number 616 — which is exactly the variant reading in a few New Testament manuscripts. The most reasonable explanation for this variant is that it arose from the confusion over the final "n".

It may now be pointed out that in an Aramaic document from Murabba’at, dated to the "second year of the emperor Nero," the name is spelled ‘rsq nwrn’ as required by the theory (i.e., that 666 signifies Nero). The last two consonants of ‘rsq’ are damaged, but enough is preserved to show that no vowel-letter was written between the ‘q’ and ‘s’ (Apocalypse 13:18 and a Scroll from Murabba’at). The evidence can be seen by consulting the French work edited by P, Benoit, J. T. Milik, and R. DeVaux, Discoveries in the Judean Desert of Jordan II (Oxford, 1961), page 18, plate 29.

The Christians of the first century were under the military authority of Rome, a nation which openly proclaimed its rulers, the Caesars, to be divine. All those under the jurisdiction of Rome were required by law to publicly proclaim their allegiance to Caesar by burning a pinch of incense and declaring, "Caesar is Lord". Upon compliance with this law, the people were given a papyrus document called a "libellus", which they were required to present when either stopped by the Roman police or attempting to engage in commerce in the Roman marketplace, increasing the difficulty of "buying or selling" without this mark. This is the

essence of Scripture’s warnings to the early Christians of 70 AD against taking upon themselves the "mark of the beast namely Nero's coin".

89 posted on 09/28/2020 2:49:08 AM PDT by Cronos (19 years on FR)
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To: Roman_War_Criminal
Reject the teachings of false teachers like Missler, Darby and other preachers and pastors you follow and instead turn to Jesus Christ

Don't deny Jesus' OWN words "to this generation" namely the generation of those listening to Him

90 posted on 09/28/2020 2:51:04 AM PDT by Cronos (19 years on FR)
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To: Luircin

True - but the signs are increasing as we descend into a chaotic immoral/amoral society...


91 posted on 09/28/2020 3:58:27 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Cronos
so you're saying that you believe in reincarnation?

I made the simple observation that Elijah came back as a new baby named John, because Jesus said that John was Elijah. John said he that wasn't Elijah, yet they are both telling the truth.

92 posted on 09/28/2020 5:12:19 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The pun is mightier than the s-word. Goy to the World!)
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To: Ezekiel
Zeke "I made the simple observation that Elijah came back as a new baby named John"

meaning that you believe in reincarnation.

93 posted on 09/28/2020 5:22:49 AM PDT by Cronos (19 years on FR)
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To: trebb

really? More immoral now than in the 1930s and 1940s with the ex-flapper movement, the rise of Naziism etc.?


94 posted on 09/28/2020 5:23:33 AM PDT by Cronos (19 years on FR)
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To: MHGinTN
You mischaracterized by ignoring context the words of Jesus, so you have no credibility, zero integrity.

You chose the response of personal attack (character assassination) from my post that merely pointed out that Elijah came back as a new baby named John, and that Elijah who was as Elijah appeared at the Transfiguration.

All true right out of the Good Book, basic info. Jesus said John was Elijah; John said that he wasn't Elijah. The truth is what it is. Both statements are true. WYSIWYG.

Thank you for the blessings I received from your conclusions about me. I'm eager to see what good I will be shown today.

95 posted on 09/28/2020 5:32:23 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The pun is mightier than the s-word. Goy to the World!)
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To: Cronos

Yes - when the FReest nation on Earth heads down those roads and it is a sentence of violence against you for pointing it out, we are coming closer to the societal cesspool that God says will spread before He sends Him back to set things right.


96 posted on 09/28/2020 6:08:37 AM PDT by trebb (Don't howl about illegal leeches, or Trump in general, while not donating to FR - it's hypocritical.)
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To: Just mythoughts

Not my toes. :) I merely pointed out what’s there, so no personal opinion/ego involved that could become offended.

The Way of the Patriarchs is on the ground, but not of this world.

Heh, it’s even literal - Highway 60 in Israel, going right on up through “disputed territory” - that’s its name, the “Way of the Patriarchs”.

The number on the signage even looks like the word “GO”. Now maybe I’m the only one who sees “GO” on the sign, but it’s the simple meaning regardless of the physical signage, so I point it out to anyone else who might be interested.

I saw the “GO” because it’s what the Book records about the man Abram who couldn’t wait to pack his bags so to speak:

Genesis 12

1 Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father’s house, unto a land that I will shew thee:
2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:
3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

In fact, the Bible begins with a pun on “Go”:

“In the beginning, Go...”

Somebody out there might accuse me of something for cutting off a letter , but I’m not disputing the actual text. Fact is though, “In the beginning go” is a simple, obvious statement about starting anything — gotta move forward. It appears right there in the beginning, so I couldn’t help but notice.

It’s like the explanation of work (physics) that kids learn in school (or used to, anyway): push on an object all day long.. expend great effort.. work up a sweat. But if that object didn’t budge, no work was done.

Have a great day!


97 posted on 09/28/2020 6:13:56 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The pun is mightier than the s-word. Goy to the World!)
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To: Cronos

>>>meaning that you believe in reincarnation.<<<

Many people know what they’ve decided to know, and then that’s that. Even the title and opening of this very thread goes down that road:

>>>

What *God* Said Will Happen,

“Several people have asked for *my opinion* on Israel’s recent peace treaties with the UAE and Bahrain, so this is my effort to put it into writing.”

<<<

People will lap up opinions and theories, but point out that water is wet and oh boy.

It’s all been played out in the Gospel accounts. The pattern is recorded that the established religious experts “knew” what Jesus was saying, regardless of what he was saying. Nothing got by those folks.

Ergo, Jesus was obviously a very bad man, and his disciples were a heap of trouble as well.

Thank you for your blessing. It’s been a great day thus far.


98 posted on 09/28/2020 6:35:01 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The pun is mightier than the s-word. Goy to the World!)
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To: Ezekiel

Look, if you believe in reincarnation, that’s your choice, I’m not going to mock you for that.


99 posted on 09/28/2020 6:38:08 AM PDT by Cronos (19 years on FR)
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To: Ezekiel

Try quoting the scripture passages you ‘think’ support your assertions, if you want to be taken seriously.


100 posted on 09/28/2020 6:39:09 AM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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