Posted on 08/11/2020 7:12:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Church folks and God’s folks ain’t the same. Church folk goes to church. God’s folk are the church.
Yes and amen! BELIEVE...
John 6:29
Jesus answered and said to them, This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He sent.
1 John 3:23
And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another, as He gave us commandment.
Romans 4:5
But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness,
Romans 10:9-13
9 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10 for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. 11 For the Scripture says, WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED. 12 For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; 13 for WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.
Was waiting for that comment.
You’re wrong.
Read more. That is a heresy. We, the Catholic Church, don’t teach that.
There are so many numerous times in Scripture where His humor comes out. Double-meanings, and double-fulfillments of things.
John 14:6: Way, Truth, Life
in Latin: Via, Veritas, Vida (say that 3 times fast).
+ 1 Billion
It’s a life changing event to find that you can live freely and not be on the hook for your deeds. Consequences will happen for sinful behavior, but nothing can separate us from the Salvation of Christ if we let Jesus Save Us.
That 33% figure has held true for nearly a century. It is strange, in view of Jesus' adamant statement, "Except a man be born again he cannot see the kingdom of God". Pride gets in the way of truth.
“larger number of professing Christians believe good works will get them into Heaven”
A large number of Christians don’t actually study the written word, instead they just declare themselves Christians by simply showing up to Church on Sunday. So this really doesn’t surprise me.
“Just curious. Can someone be “born again” more than once? If s/he is born again, then falls, gets reborn, then falls again, what are the chances s/he can be “reborn” a third, fourth, tenth time?”
What you are describing is the process of sanctification. A person is saved once and for eternity. From that point on he must continue to strive in Christ’s teachings, following His commandments, and learn to lean on Him each time he inevitably fails, over and over and over again. God is patient and merciful, but he is also holy and just. Through his grace, He makes us holy and He will accept nothing less. Our works, in themselves, are nothing more than dust.
I don’t know....murder people....help people...hard to say which act God might approve of.
“The only real path is accepting Jesus as your savior.”
I always thought God might have a problem with that.
Our works are nothing but dust? I think that they tell our Lord who we are. They tell the world who we are. "In themselves" is harsh. I don't believe that God would be so harsh as to make us think that our good works IN THEMSELVES are nothing but dust.
It would be like telling children that their good deeds don't really mean much unless...
Sounds downright cruel to me.
Just an opinion.
Correct. “For by Grace are you saved, not of good works, lest any man can boast”
Since actual Christians live under grace, not law, these people aren’t Christians.
Sure, Christianity didn't start until the 1500s!
My pastor preaches the Gospel each and every Sunday.
If someone in my church walks out thinking their good works will save them it isn’t the fault of the pastor.
He never did ANY good works his whole life? ONLY bad, sinful stuff from the start until the day he died on that cross? Not even once in his life he did something good?
You seriously believe that?
I think you need to read more. The Roman Church teaches works salvation If you depended solely on Christ for salvation you would have assurance of salvation and not have to wait for some future judgement to find out if you made it into Heaven or not
“Our works are nothing but dust? I think that they tell our Lord who we are. They tell the world who we are. “In themselves” is harsh. I don’t believe that God would be so harsh as to make us think that our good works IN THEMSELVES are nothing but dust.
It would be like telling children that their good deeds don’t really mean much unless...
Sounds downright cruel to me. Just an opinion.”
Please refer to: Psalm 51:1-9 (by King David, a man after Gods own heart)
David understood the inadequacy of his own works.
Arrogance will get you into a hot spot.
James 2:14-26
New King James Version
Faith Without Works Is Dead
14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, Depart in peace, be warmed and filled, but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
18 But someone will say, You have faith, and I have works. Show me your faith without [a]your works, and I will show you my faith by [b]my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believeand tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is [c]dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made [d]perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, Abraham believed God, and it was [e]accounted to him for righteousness. And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
25 Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?
26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
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