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1 posted on 07/28/2020 8:56:05 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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A question that occurs to me is, if you didn’t want him for your 70 or 80 years on this earth, you aren’t going to want him in eternity. If you want him in eternity, you want him now.


2 posted on 07/28/2020 9:06:47 AM PDT by marron
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I was asked once, by a atheist friend, why everyone can’t go to Heaven. I asked her “Why do you want to go to Heaven?” She looked at me, puzzled. I added “If Heaven is a place where you are eternally in the presence of God, why would an atheist want to be there?”


3 posted on 07/28/2020 9:08:09 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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Ping for later...


6 posted on 07/28/2020 9:11:54 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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When you read of Satan in a Lake of Fire for eternity it can be off putting. Today’s society tries to rehabilitate the criminal. It would want Satan on non-psychotic drugs and on Freud’s couch talking about why he hates his dad God (Oedipus Complex). It would want him to become a productive member of society again. Our society can’t understand absolute evil or absolute good. It has a bit of both in it and wants to lessen evil and heighten the good. Absolute evil has one solution, one end and only one ultimate end.

To live with absolutes is hard for us and we tend to see it’s work as cruelty. If a father took his son and put him in a Lake of Fire for Eternity, that in today’s society would be seen as a cruel and unusual punishment. He would be hauled up to Family Court for such an offence. The same would apply to the way God seems to coldly allow his children to kill themselves. What loving father would allow that for his children? Why doesn’t he step in and stop it? This is parental neglect! Bang — God is dragged back into Family Court.


7 posted on 07/28/2020 9:22:04 AM PDT by BEJ
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God has designed and built heaven. His rules will apply. You don’t get to pick and chose what you like. Many people will not want to live there. The alternative place is hell.


8 posted on 07/28/2020 9:27:42 AM PDT by alternatives?
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Good post. Schumacher made a good argument, but I want to add to it in my own words.

God's condemnation is right and just, and we actually condemn ourselves before we are judged by Him (by our actions and omissions).

Many people confuse redemption with salvation, therefore don't live by God's Law; thus freely choosing hell over heaven.

9 posted on 07/28/2020 9:29:55 AM PDT by heterosupremacist (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. Thomas Jefferson)
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They ask that question because they make a fundamental mistake, thinking God’s love and His wrath are opposites.


11 posted on 07/28/2020 9:42:56 AM PDT by KStorm
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If some do not expect God to do in the end... that which He has promised since the beginning...then why are they watching His channel?


12 posted on 07/28/2020 9:54:03 AM PDT by BuddhaBrown (Path to enlightenment: Four right turns, then go straight until you see the Light!)
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He doesn’t send souls there ... they choose it over loving God. It’s that simple.


13 posted on 07/28/2020 9:54:28 AM PDT by al_c (Democrats: Party over Common Sense)
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I see a lot of good answers on here.Heaven has no place for rebellion (Lucifer found that out). In Heaven there are no worries or stress. For the first time since childhood (or maybe ever), you don't worry about anything. You will have an eternity to learn and explore.
Alternately, if you choose Hell you will see Heaven in all of its splendor and glory and have regrets and see the misery you traded it all for. A poor trade indeed. Scofflaws brag "Better to rule in Hell than serve in heaven" will soon find there is no rule in Hell. It is utter chaos and panic. People will go insane after a while. The only thing eternal about Hell is the finality about it. Eventually it will be gone and forgotten and the universe will be clean and pure.
19 posted on 07/28/2020 12:21:01 PM PDT by BipolarBob (The cost of abortion is a human sacrifice.)
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If you spend your life spitting in His eye why would He force you to kneel at His feet for eternity?

You will get what you want in the afterlife. If you want God you will get God, forever.

If you want yourself you will get yourself, forever.

21 posted on 07/28/2020 12:57:44 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (And lead us not into hysteria, but deliver us from the handwashers. Amen!)
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He is a living God but also a just God who sometimes has to apply tough love.


22 posted on 07/28/2020 1:08:48 PM PDT by Midwesterner53
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