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Televangelist Rod Parsley under fire for claiming America’s founders released all their slaves
Christian Post ^ | 06/16/2020 | Leonardo Blair

Posted on 06/16/2020 9:14:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 06/16/2020 9:14:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Blah blah blah... You can shove slavery up your arse.


2 posted on 06/16/2020 9:18:33 AM PDT by Altura Ct. (HOw about Washington DC?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Washington did, in his will.

Hamilton was a serious abolitionist.

So was Franklin, if late in life.

Jefferson, though, not so much....


3 posted on 06/16/2020 9:20:14 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: SeekAndFind

What is it with these people (yes, I know that many are totally irrational)? Can they please at least consult reliable sources that discuss how ones like Washington, Jefferson, and Madison treated their slaves (and yes, had them released upon their deaths) or is that too much of a challenge for them?


4 posted on 06/16/2020 9:20:21 AM PDT by OttawaFreeper ("The Gardens was founded by men-sportsmen-who fought for their country" Conn Smythe, 1966)
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To: SeekAndFind

Racism STILL impacts”

nope


5 posted on 06/16/2020 9:21:06 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: SeekAndFind

Thomas Jefferson didn’t release his slaves because he didn’t actually own them, his creditors owned them.


6 posted on 06/16/2020 9:22:43 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who could have guessed the Communist Revolution would arrive disguised as the common cold?)
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To: SeekAndFind

The democrats just transferred them from the fields to the voting booth.


7 posted on 06/16/2020 9:27:41 AM PDT by tinyowl (A is A)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yup. I went to Monticello 4 years ago. Jefferson died deeply in debt.


8 posted on 06/16/2020 9:27:55 AM PDT by EvilCapitalist (Fire Fauci)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; Army Air Corps

Sadly I am out and about and not able to quickly fact check, but I do believe another reason he didn’t because it was illegal at the time in Virginia for a freed slave to say residing in the state.


9 posted on 06/16/2020 9:28:10 AM PDT by KC_Lion
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To: EvilCapitalist

Monticello has a lot of information online.

https://www.monticello.org/site/research-and-collections/slaves-who-gained-freedom


10 posted on 06/16/2020 9:37:46 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: KC_Lion

Sadly I am out and about and not able to quickly fact check, but I do believe another reason he didn’t because it was illegal at the time in Virginia for a freed slave to say residing in the state.

One of my ancestors was a Free Negro in the censuses before and after the civil war. So were her children.

I was not aware of this reality until I got serious in our genealogy.


11 posted on 06/16/2020 10:02:50 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Can I trust that you and I will get out and vote for Trump, this November!)
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To: SeekAndFind
He noted that “an alternative” to America would have been Africa, “but we were robbed of that too.”

Why? Last time I checked it was still there.

12 posted on 06/16/2020 10:25:11 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: ConservativeDude; SeekAndFind
Washington did, in his will.

This is not inaccurate. Washington stated it was his will and desire that his slaves be freed upon the death of his wife. Martha freed these slaves after George died.

Item Upon the decease of my wife, it is my Will and desire, that all the slaves which I hold in my own right, shall receive their freedom. To emancipate them during her life, would, tho' earnestly wished by me, be attended with such insuperable difficulties on account of their intermixture by Marriages with the Dower Negroes, as to excite the most painful sensations, if not disagreeable consequences from the latter, while both descriptions are in the occupancy or the same Proprietor; it not being in my power, under the tenure by which the Dower Negroes are held, to manumit them. And whereas among those who will receive freedom according to this devise, there may be some, who from old age or bodily infirmities, and others who on account of their infancy, that will be unable to support themselves; it is my Will and desire that all who come under the first and second description shall be comfortably clothed and fed by my heirs while they live; and that such of the latter description as have no parents living, or if living are unable, or unwilling to provide for them, shall be bound by the Court until they shall arrive at the age of twenty-five years; and in cases where no record can be produced, whereby their ages can be ascertained, the Judgment of the Court, upon its own view of the subject, shall be adequate & final. The negroes thus bound, are (by their Masters or Mistresses), to be taught to read and write; & to be brought up to some useful occupation, agreeably to the Laws of the Commonwealth of Virginia, providing for the support of orphan & other poor Children. And I do hereby expressly forbid the sale, or transportation out of the said Commonwealth of any Slave I may die possessed of, under any pretence whatsoever. And I do moreover most pointedly, and most solemnly enjoin it upon my Executors hereafter named, or the survivors of them, to see that this clause respecting Slaves, and every part thereof be religiously fulfilled at the Epoch at which it is directed to take place; without evasion, neglect or delay, after the Crops which may then be on the ground are harvested, particularly as it respects the aged & infirm; Seeing that a regular & permanent fund be established for their support so long as there are subjects requiring it; not trusting to the uncertain provision to be made by individuals. And to my Mulatto man, William (calling himself William Lee) I give immediate freedom; or if he should prefer it (on account of the accidents which have befallen him, and which have rendered him incapable of walking or of any active employment.) to remain in the situation he now is, it shall be optional in him to do so: In either case however, I allow him an annuity of thirty dollars during his natural life, which shall be independent of the victuals and clothes he has been accustomed to receive, if he chooses the last alternative: but in full with his freedom, if he prefers the first: & this I give him as a testimony of my sense of his attachment to me, and for his faithful services during the Revolutionary War

13 posted on 06/16/2020 10:32:29 AM PDT by woodpusher
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To: ConservativeDude

RE; Jefferson, though, not so much....

So, what follows? We should pull down the statue of the author of the Declaration of Independence because of this?


14 posted on 06/16/2020 10:32:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it wil)
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To: SeekAndFind

you can’t judge the 1700’s by 2000’s standards

back then slavery was almost like a job. there was even the nice name “indentured servants” - like calling a janitor a “custodial engineer”

white people did not say “let’s go to Africa and capture some blacks and make them slaves” They went to Africa because that is where the slave markets were.

Slaves were kept in bad conditions on boats, but they were a PRODUCT.. they lost money if they died or were in bad health.

Go ahead and erase more history, stupid liberals... see where it’s leading?


15 posted on 06/16/2020 10:48:56 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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To: SeekAndFind

some people like hanging onto the lies in their heads better than even entertaining the possibility of truth.


16 posted on 06/16/2020 10:57:24 AM PDT by b4me (God Bless the USA)
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To: SeekAndFind
While we're on the topic of people who fail to be perfect, let's consider:

King David - Misdeeds with the wife of Uriah the Hittite, husband of Bathsheba. While Uriah is serving in David's army abroad, David himself, from the roof of his palace, looks down on his city and spies Bathsheba bathing in the privacy of her courtyard. Moved by lust at the sight of her, David calls for her to be brought to him and sleeps with her, impregnating her. In an effort to hide his misdeeds, David tries to call on Uriah to return home from war, hoping that the two will have relations and that he will be able to pass the child off as belonging to Uriah. But Uriah, being a disciplined soldier, refuses to leave his post. So, David murders him by proxy, ordering all of Uriah's comrades to abandon him in the midst of battle, so that he is killed by an opposing army. Following Uriah's death, David takes Bathsheba as his eighth wife.

Saint Peter - Denied Christ thrice to save himself.

Muhammad - Married a six (or seven) year old (Aisha), consummating the marriage when she was 9 years old. Owned slaves. Among other things.

King Henry the Eighth - Ask his six wives - (oh, wait).

And MANY, MANY others.

JFK

Ted Kennedy

Joe Biden

Jesse Jackson

Bill Cosby

Ilhan Omar

etc.

17 posted on 06/16/2020 11:01:47 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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To: OttawaFreeper

Why does it matter how they treated their slaves? It was still slavery! It was still wrong.

Although I respect and admire the founders, they had faults as do you and I. I don’t have to whitewash their faults to admire the good.


18 posted on 06/16/2020 2:45:03 PM PDT by newberger (Put not your trust in princes, in sons of men in whom there is no salvation.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The British were the first to outlaw slavery.
Then the U.S. did.
19 posted on 06/16/2020 3:32:04 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: newberger
Why does it matter how they treated their slaves? It was still slavery! It was still wrong.
Although I respect and admire the founders, they had faults as do you and I. I don’t have to whitewash their faults to admire the good.

ALL the large cultures/societies had slavery. That's the way the world was.
According to Google, the British were the first to outlaw slavery. Then the USA.

I'm fairly sure that it still exists somewhere.

20 posted on 06/16/2020 3:33:55 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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