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Unregenerate Conservatives After the Rapture and in the Day of the Lord!
IFB ^ | 6/11/20

Posted on 06/10/2020 7:59:52 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman

The Conservative movement in America - much like those who fought valiantly at the Alamo - will shortly be overrun and butchered at the hand of an EXPONENTIALLY godless and lawless nation and the world after the Rapture of the Church (Matt. 24:12, Gal. 1:4; Eph. 6:12, Rev. 13). One might say, "How can that come to be for America in light of Donald Trump's great conservative victories in many parts of the conservative spectrum? My friend, have they been great victories or have we just been holding back the multi fractured dam of lawlessness and getting back very very little of which the American left has raped from of our people, culture, and nation these last seventy-five years? My friend, these things will come to be, not because I think so, but because Almighty God said it would be (Matt. 24; 1 Thess. 4:13-18; 5:1-3; 2 Thess. 2:3-12; Rev. 6-19)! Do you believe what the Lord Jesus said, or have you dismissed Him and His Word as this godless world has (John 11:25-26, Heb. 11:6)?

Dear friends, these things will come to pass when the restraining presence of the abiding Holy Spirit in believers and their restraining power is removed from America and this world at the Rapture (John 14:3; 1 Thess. 4:13-18; 5:1-3, 2 Thess. 2:3-12; Rev. 3:10)! Even now we must step back and see the REALITY of our day; that we are in EXPONENTIAL days of lawlessness, with seventy years of the horrific tsunami effects of EXPONENTIAL lawlessness! When the restraining POWER of the Holy Spirit in believer's lives is finally removed from our growing EXPONENTIAL high-tech and LAWLESS world at the Rapture; what then for the unregenerate conservative and the conservative movement? The unregenerate conservative in America and in the world at that time will be absolutely no match for the EXPONENTIAL HORRIFIC effects of the Four Horsemen, the Seal Judgments, Trumpet Judgments, the Anti- Christ, 666, every POWERFUL demon and Bowls Judgments of Almighty God (Matt. 24; Rev. 6-19)!! Oh, my dear friends! That Day will be HORRIFICALLY EXPONENTIALLY EXPONENTIAL in every facet of the world (Joel 1:15; Matt. 24:21; Rev. 6-19)! Don't believe me? Check out the Bible verse links and BELIEVE!

I love what President Trump is doing for our nation and people, but it is EXPONENTIALLY not enough to save this nation and stop the coming Day of the Lord (Rev. 6-19)! Remember my dear friends, there is NO MENTION of the USA in the Bible by name or in any prophecy; especially during the Last Days!

Tragically, these sobering realities are too much for the majority of American conservatives to think on and understandably so; they do not want to retain this reality in their thoughts because they are outside of a saving relationship to Jesus Christ in SPIRIT a TRUTH (Matt. 13:15; 15:3-12; John 3:19-21; 8:24; Rom. 10:2-4). These unregenerate individuals have put ALL of their trust in this sound and crucial ideology for fallen humanity; and rightly so! True conservatism is key for a healthy society and beneficial for obtaining human freedoms and liberties in a fallen world ruled by the oppressive and lawless. The ETERNAL fatal error of the unregenerate conservative is in their rejection and willful stupidity of the RIGHTEOUS requirements demanded by Almighty God (John 3:16-17, Rom. 3:23, 6:23, 10:4). As we see our nation EXPONENTIALLY deteriorating right before our eyes and moral relativism, lawlessness and corruption SUPER ABOUNDING, we see the absolute panic in the political realm! Panic and fear to save our nation have caused sound judgment to fall by the wayside and error and confusion to reign as king (Proverbs 1:20-33).

What also is tragic is that multitudes of conservatives are oblivious to or have very little understanding of what Almighty God’s Word has to say about events transpiring in the Last Days of godless mankind (Matt. 24; 2 Tim. 3:1-7; Jude 1:18; Rev. 6 - 19). These have turned to the optimistic unregenerate conservative talking heads of our day for their pep talk and spider web hope. Thank God for them, but they offer zero ETERNAL hope and insight into the ETERNAL matters of Almighty God! If these truly had faith in Almighty God and believed His Word, they would fully comprehend the magnitude of our godless day in which we are living in and let all know that Jesus ALONE is AMERICA's ONLY hope (Acts 4:12, Gal. 2:20)! These would no longer invest in the temporal moments of this little world called "time" but would choose rather to preach the saving grace of the glorious GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST instead of virtues of conservatism (1 Cor. 2:2, 9:16). I truly understand that these have a valuable place in our nation; especially today, but they do so as false prophets of temporal optimism. My friend, what will these have to say and offer after the Rapture of the Church?

As the great American experiment is coming to a horrific conclusion, what hope is there for any American in this present evil world? Our Founding Fathers warned us of what would be when EXPONENTIAL immorality and godlessness would reign in America's last days. May the unregenerate American conservative look objectivity outside of this world’s limited confines to a place of absolute security and assurance, that place is none other than the ETERNAL Heavenly Throne Room of Almighty God for ALL their answers (Rev. 4, 5). Access is ONLY granted by a saving relationship to Almighty God through His Son, Jesus Christ (John 3:16-17, Gal. 1:4, Eph. 2:8-9). When one places their trust in Almighty God’s saving solution and remedy in Spirit and TRUTH (John 4:24), Almighty God will save (deliver) that one from the limited, temporal confines of this fallen world (Rom. 5:12-19, Gal. 1:4). (SEE CHART)

As the lawlessness of man reaches its EXPONENTIAL pinnacle in the seven-year tribulation period which is coming up very shortly (Isa. 24, Rev. 6-19), for us who know the Lord, may we rejoice that the GLORIOUS KINGDOM OF HEAVEN is at hand; in which Christ will reign for a thousand years in ABSOLUTE RIGHTEOUSNESS! It will be so my friend, after His glorious return to earth, that He will destroy Satan and ALL his lawless host and FOREVERMORE reign as the ETERNAL RIGHTEOUS King (Isa.11, Zech. 14, Matt. 7:21-23, 25:41,46, 2 Thess. 2:8, Rev. 19:11-21).

My friend conservative friend, do you know the Lord Jesus as the Bible so clearly, teaches; and do you have His PERFECT RIGHTEOUSNESS to stand before Him in that Day? The ETERNAL Son of Almighty God has come to set men free from the prison hold of UNRIGHTEOUSNESS, and to deliver them in RIGHTEOUSNESS, to enjoy Him in RIGHTEOUSNESS FOREVERMORE (John 3:16-17, 1 Cor. 2:9; Rev. 21;22:1-5). I do not know how to say anything more wonderful than that! That is what this life is all about! May it be so for you today! You will NEVER be the same!

The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!


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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
Finally, the standard fake rapture news talks about the book of the Apocalypse dated after 69 AD which is false -- dating the apocalypse - this is in the text itself where John writes about sharing in the persecution.

While the political situation for Christians was difficult in the 90s under Domitian there was no widespread imperial persecution of Christians

In contrast it is clear that Nero (54 to 68) was notable for his tyrannical persecutions as noted by Apollonius of Tyana and Tacitus

In AD 68 a fire broke out in Rome and Nero blamed Christians, launching a major imperial persecution.Tacitus relates how Nero amused himself with the torture of Christians "Mockery of every sort was added to their deaths. Covered with the skins of beasts, they were torn by dogs and perished, or were nailed to crosses, or were doomed to the flames and burnt, to serve as nightly illumination, when day had expired"Now THIS was persecution

Although Domitian was a tyrant, he didn't go after the christians in the same way and his levels of cruelty were directed towards his political enemies the senators etc.

Revelation 17 talks of the 7 kings - the 6th wh is reigning and the 7th will remain a little while (apoc 17:9-10) - the 6th "king" is Nero whose name adds up to 666near", Apox 22:6-7 "The Lord has sent his angel to show his servants what must soon take place. And behold, I am coming soon -

And Apoc 22:10-12 "Do not seal up the words of the prophecy of this book, for the time is near and Apoc 22:12 "behold, I am coming soon"

The MARK of the beast was the worship of the emperor Nero. People took that and died. Instead one must take the sign of Christ - the cross

21 posted on 06/10/2020 9:44:34 PM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: Cronos

One must by necessity, ignore that John was taken in spirit to the Lord’s Day, when he penned the book of Revelation. (John was not attending a sunrise Sunday service.). Nero is not the one that gets tossed out of heaven in Revelation 12:

What was the first prophecy penned?

What does that word we are told to do ‘count’, mean in the grand scheme of gematrixs... somebody assigned puzzlement to John’s writings, it does not come from the Heavenly Father!


22 posted on 06/10/2020 10:01:18 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

Absolutely!
I don’t want to
Be in Heaven when
My Calling would be
Here Proclaiming
Jesus to a Dying World.


23 posted on 06/11/2020 2:23:29 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (He Hath Not Given Us A Spirit Of Fear)
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To: Cronos

That is some pretzel logic


24 posted on 06/11/2020 3:13:11 AM PDT by Dartoid
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To: Big Red Badger

Good RB! We have a job to do, But... Jesus is coming very soon and the EXPONENTIAL signs are everywhere!

Look,walk,serve and look!

Eph. 5:16-17


25 posted on 06/11/2020 4:12:21 AM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: Cronos

My man, how you got all that is beyond me, using some truth and a ton of error... no offence the preterist view to me is as that of the flat earth crowd.

You’re totally entitled to your opinion but I fully disagree.

666 is coming and Jesus also! I hope you’re ready...


26 posted on 06/11/2020 4:20:52 AM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: Cronos

My friend, Jerusalem is today more than ever; just put down your papers and just objectively read the Bible and ask Almighty God to lead you! It’s no to hard, interpretation is of Gos and His word.


27 posted on 06/11/2020 4:24:11 AM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: Cronos

It’s a 33 AD truth Jesus started at the last super when He was preparing his disciples for Pentecost and the church age. The Rapture is for the church.It’s everywhere in the New Testament when referring to the church. John 14:3


28 posted on 06/11/2020 4:29:02 AM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

This message is certainly ordered of God. I pray FReepers will have ears to hear.


29 posted on 06/11/2020 4:29:08 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: HighSierra5
our only deliverance from these wicked times is Jesus. Man is incapable of fighting these demonic forces.

Amen.

30 posted on 06/11/2020 4:30:56 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: Pollster1

We are running out of time and solutions. Our solutions cannot keep up with the EXPONENTIAL seeds of national and global rot. Optimism isn’t the solution, reality is. I’m just being a realist not a panic freak. The bible states everywhere that Jesus is coming again and the preceding Day of the Lord. Just my thoughts, thanks!


31 posted on 06/11/2020 4:34:11 AM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: Pollster1
Shortly is not the hour or the day. Can you not see the season we are in?

I’ll set the over/under at January 1, 2026. And I’m taking the under.
32 posted on 06/11/2020 4:36:25 AM PDT by ScoochDude
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To: ScoochDude

I’m not in a hurry for you to be right. I look at the ongoing devastation caused by Obama, and I worry. Satan will also be pure evil, but I assume far more intelligent and energetic. It’s hard even to imagine how ugly that will get, beyond taking the playbook from Antifa and BLM as a starting point and assuming a massive expansion. Whether God has decided this is the time or He is waiting for His own perfect time, I am grateful that this decision is in better hands than mine.


33 posted on 06/11/2020 5:35:01 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Governments derive their just powers from the consent of the governed")
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman; Just mythoughts

Remember my dear friends, there is NO MENTION of the USA in the Bible by name or in any prophecy; especially during the Last Days!

A blind man doesn't see the Grand Canyon, so it must not be there. /s

The day is coming very soon, when the "America is nowhere in Bible" teaching will be exposed for the massive fraud that it is. People will be gobsmacked at how they had been hoodwinked for so long.

"Gobsmacked" is an appropriate and timely word.

-- utterly astonished; astounded

34 posted on 06/11/2020 8:45:07 AM PDT by Ezekiel (The pun is mightier than the s-word. Goy to the World!)
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To: Ezekiel

Son, Give me the bible verse where it says so? We are quoting Almighty God, who are you quoting? You are fullfilling prophecy? 1 Thess. 5:1-4
Yo, believe what you want, but don’t try to use a man made quote against the ETERNAL Word of Almighty God. Only a scoffing fool does that! : )

2 Peter 3:3-10


35 posted on 06/11/2020 9:26:09 AM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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To: Ezekiel

Romans 11:8-11.


36 posted on 06/11/2020 9:29:33 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Psalm 2. Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman; Just mythoughts; Maudeen
Son, Give me the bible verse where it says so?

Proverbs 30:15 The horseleach hath two daughters, crying, Give, give. There are three things that are never satisfied, yea, four things say not, It is enough: The grave...

We are quoting Almighty God, who are you quoting?

Luke 16:

25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment.
29 Abraham saith unto him, They have Moses and the prophets; let them hear them.
30 And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
31 And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

You are fullfilling prophecy? 1 Thess. 5:1-4

From the initial thead posting:

Access is ONLY granted by a saving relationship to Almighty God through His Son, Jesus Christ (John 3:16-17, Gal. 1:4, Eph. 2:8-9). When one places their trust in Almighty God’s saving solution and remedy in Spirit and TRUTH (John 4:24), Almighty God will save (deliver) that one from the limited, temporal confines of this fallen world (Rom. 5:12-19, Gal. 1:4). (SEE CHART)

"Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many." ~ Jesus

1 Thessalonians 5

1 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

Yo, believe what you want, but don’t try to use a man made quote against the ETERNAL Word of Almighty God. Only a scoffing fool does that! : ) 2 Peter 3:3-10

~ The Ignorant Fisherman

2 Peter 3

3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Now a person might choose to rant and screech, demanding proof of the next sunrise for example. Where's the proof, how can you know, blah blah. Every day, same thing -- never able to catch on, never able to learn from history. The proof of the next sunrise?

Wait for it. There won't be any room for debate.

Little Annie knew what the self-anointed prophets are wholly unable to see. The peddlers of apocalypse porn keep cranking up the fear volume, while cloaking their negative waves in a peace-and-safety Jesus wrapping, crying, "Peace, peace," when there is no peace because they make sure of it.

Therefore I'll quote Annie, because truth *is* the Word of the Lord, which stands in its own defense wherever it pops up:

"The sun'll come out tomorrow."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KahOD-93D7U

Haman and his ten sons were hanged on the gallows that Haman built for Mordecai. History is prophecy.

For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them.

Tomorrow, you're only a day away.

Hebrews 3

7 Wherefore (as the Holy Ghost saith, To day if ye will hear his voice,
8 Harden not your hearts, as in the provocation, in the day of temptation in the wilderness:
9 When your fathers tempted me, proved me, and saw my works forty years.
10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.
11 So I sware in my wrath, They shall not enter into my rest)
12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.
13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.

As I've commented recently, I finally got a flag and all the components on order for hanging Old Glory on my front porch post. A short time ago, the USPS van arrived at the front door with the last item - a 6 ft. thick gauge hollow metal hanging rod. It's all in timing, as I only yesterday came across this fascinating list, for some other reason entirely.

"But the “reed” meaning of קנה is just the tip of the iceberg."

Indeed

Revelation 11:1 And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein.

Want to know the meaning of the mark of the beast? It's the character of the "students" who only know how to cheat, to copy someone else's work and then pass it off as their own, or of the "teachers" who teach to the test and/or hand out the approved answers. Teachers pretending to teach; students pretending to learn. Monkey-see-monkey-do. It's the established way.

The last thing they want is to be pulled aside by a real educator who is checking up on who knows what, who bothered to pay even the slightest sincere attention and was willing to actually learn from the master.

The monkeys have no use for anyone who refuses to become a monkey.

Remember Travis? A beast can rip away a person's face, but a monkey's face *is* a mask, so there's no pulling it off.

God's big on the little parables and metaphors of nature all around us, because that's just how He rolls.

37 posted on 06/11/2020 12:42:44 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The pun is mightier than the s-word. Goy to the World!)
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To: Dartoid
Not really -- if you start with the beginning of the book of the Apocalypse
[12] And I turned to see the voice that spoke with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks: [13] And in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks, one like to the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the feet, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. [14] And his head and his hairs were white, as white wool, and as snow, and his eyes were as a flame of fire, [15] And his feet like unto fine brass, as in a burning furnace. And his voice as the sound of many waters.
This is in the tone of other apocalyptic works of the Bible and is filled with allegory as is the entire book of the Apocalypse

Rev 1:12-13 talks of "seeing" a voice -- similar to Daniel 7:11 when then sees "one like a son of man" -- and the 7 golden candlesticks are the menorah, but note that Jesus is in the center of this menorah -- Christ is the light of the world

this links to Daniel 7 which tells of 4 beasts that are four kingdoms that will persecute the Jews from the time of Nebuchadnezzar

  1. Nebuchadnezzar's Babylonian empire
  2. The Medo-Persian empire - though with the exception of Hamam (a notable one), this is a benevolent empire for the jews
  3. the Macedonian empire
  4. the Roman Empire
the people in christ's day recognized that they were living in the time of the fourth beast

The lothed with a garment down to the feet, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle. are high priest vestments

The rest is imagery - eyes like a flame of fire etc

And, like in Daniel - beasts from the "sea" are foreign nations, while beasts from the "land" are the local Judean rulers

The book is also clear about the 7 heads - the 7 rulers -- and Galba

was emperor for 8 June 68 – 15 January 69 (7 months)

38 posted on 06/14/2020 11:20:55 PM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
Jesus is coming very soon and the EXPONENTIAL signs are everywhere!

Your scriptural reading is wrong

The book of the Apocalypse was included in the canon as it contained the deeper prophecy that Jesus made in Matthew in the Olivet discourse, that Jesus is coming in the year 70 AD with the judgement on 2nd temple Jerusalem

Remember that jerusalem of the 2nd temple was burnt to the ground - the very wailing wall is not the wall of the temple but the wall of the foundation of the temple mount

The current Jerusalem is much of COLONIA AELIA CAPITOLINA, the Roman colony, built under Emperor Hadrian on the site of Jewish Jerusalem, which had been almost totally razed after the siege of 70 AD

Josephus—a contemporary historian and proponent of the Judean cause who was born in Jerusalem and fought the Romans in that war—reports that "Jerusalem ... was so thoroughly razed to the ground by those that demolished it to its foundations, that nothing was left that could ever persuade visitors that it had once been a place of habitation.

The Talmud (Makkot) tells of Rabbi Akiva and several other sages visiting the ruins of Jerusalem. His colleagues were aggrieved at seeing a fox scuttling out of what had been the Temple's Holy of Holies as an indication of the desolation

39 posted on 06/14/2020 11:27:58 PM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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To: The Ignorant Fisherman
The 19th century rapture idea is as dated as the flat-earth idea and as wack-adoodle

the book of the Apocalypse clears spells out Nero as the 666

In addition, in Eastern texts, the number is 616, the Latin numbering for Nero

Nero was the great persecutor of Christians

40 posted on 06/14/2020 11:29:48 PM PDT by Cronos (Re-elect President Trump 2020!)
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