Posted on 05/06/2020 5:32:52 PM PDT by ebb tide
P.S.: Montini was the same pope who gave an indult to the offenders administering Communion in the Paw, which quickly became the norm in the universal Church.
It’s a question - did the gates of hell prevail against the Church?
Christ promised. Was he wrong or are you diverting?
He is being sarcastic, but in the 70’s there were priests doing the “bowl” thing. I’ve seen pictures of it. Wish I could unsee it.
You might want to think about using your knowledge, talents and experience to engage instead of attacking.
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So give us an idea/example of what you mean by suggesting that ebb tide should “engage” in regard to the practice of administering communion in the paw, I mean in the hand. I can’t speak for ebb tide, but I am categorically opposed to it for the reasons I’ve explained elsewhere on this thread. And all the explanations and rationale for introducing the practice is never going to change my thinking. Therefore engaging others about it would only serve as an opportunity to explain why it’s a practice I will never believe to be acceptable.
Just a simple "yes" or "no". No more diversions, please.
Not entirely. Vestiges of the True Church remain even today.
I think you put too much stock in the word "licit". I have just given you evidence that Holy Communion for the divorced and remarried is now licit in some circumstances per the Authentic Catholic Magisterium.
Just because Francis has made it licit, doesn't mean it's not immoral nor a sacrilege that puts one's soul in a state mortal of sin.
Voluntary abortion in all 50 U.S. states is also licit. Catholic politicians like Pelosi and Biden who vote for this licit practice of infanticide are still given Holy Communion by some Catholic bishops.
I have long referred to Extraordinary Eucharistic Ministers as Extraordinary Eucharistic Monsters as a play on words. Those are my feelings in general about the abominable practice and not meant be a personal attack on any single individual.
And, by the way, why are they called "extraordinary" when they're crawling up to Novus Ordo Mass altars like swarms of ants? Don't we have enough permanent deacons to handle the "extraordinary" problem?
Here in Texas and Louisiana, we don't call fire ants, cockroaches and mosquitoes to be "extraordinary" pests, especially because they are the annoyingly predominate pests.
“Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion”
IIRC, Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion are not to be used unless the priests and deacons present cannot reach everyone within a reasonable time.
These days it seems like that reasonable time has been reduced to about a minute forty.
I am checking out of this debate with both of you. Not because I don’t think that discussing can be fruitful, but it is clear that you have no desire for reasoned discussion. You are right, I and everyone who disagrees is wrong, because you are right.
The authority of the Church only applies when you agree with it
I think this story has played out before and you are too blind to see it.
Tell Pelosi and Martin Luther hi - I think they share / shared your logic.
And no ebb - don’t want to see more internet or news interpretations of the Church’s position. The catechism is a pretty easy and usable reference. When that is changed let me know.
Unless that doesn’t apply and I need to go an earlier version, because you don’t like it...
Take care and all the best.
Don’t go away mad. Just go away.
Don’t worry not mad, just disappointed.
Will continue to lurk and maybe once in a while call out baseless accusations and logical inconsistencies.
All the best Martin.
Just go away.
Please!
Nah - this is more fun Marty...
After “checking out” in post 51, you have since posted twice.
Losers always have to have the last word, huh?
Well go ahead: give me your parting shot. You have the floor.
That works for me.
I have no idea what that even means.
At my church, I'm referred to as an extraordinary minister. That works for me.
In conversations outside of the physical structure, what i do is referred to in polite conversation as Eucharistic minister. When I attended Aristotle's Academy many years ago, my philosophy professor suggested, since we all see things according to our own persuasion, the real miracle is that we can communicate at all.
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