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1 posted on 05/01/2020 7:25:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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I don’t take part in polls. How valid is this poll. I really do not care to give my religious views to strangers.


2 posted on 05/01/2020 7:30:07 AM PDT by Destroyer Sailor (Revenge is a dish best served cold)
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Real Bible study would find Jesus admonished more times in total than He ever said words of “nice” and be “nice.”

He also talked about Hell and damnation more than love.


3 posted on 05/01/2020 7:30:24 AM PDT by Bayard
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Matthew 24:12-13 (NIV2011)
12 Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold,
13 but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.


4 posted on 05/01/2020 7:31:56 AM PDT by Rocky
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There goes Mike Murdock's "seed" and "harvest".


5 posted on 05/01/2020 7:35:12 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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The Christian Post isn’t transparent about its ownership, is it?

Interesting....


6 posted on 05/01/2020 7:35:14 AM PDT by mewzilla (Break out the mustard seeds.)
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2 Chronicles 7:14

“If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.”


7 posted on 05/01/2020 7:40:08 AM PDT by Drango (1776 = 2020)
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“In times past, we preached that sinners were wretched and that grace was amazing. Today we tell sinners they are amazing, making grace a needless afterthought.

In times past, we preached a gospel of salvation. Today we preach a gospel of self-improvement.

In times past, we preached death to the flesh, death to self, and death to sin, pointing to a brand new life in and under Jesus. Today, we preach that Jesus came so you could fulfill your dreams, that He came to make you into a bigger and better you.

We used to preach the gospel of self-denial. Today we preach the gospel of self-realization.

And sadly, it is Pentecostals and Charismatics who have often led the way in preaching this so-called gospel message.”

This. All of this. The “special snowflake virus” has overwhelmed so many of today’s churches. As a Methodist Christian, I speak from sad experience.


8 posted on 05/01/2020 7:46:55 AM PDT by jagusafr
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P&Cs trust their feelings more than the Word.


12 posted on 05/01/2020 7:55:43 AM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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The leap toward apostacy began when emotions became their measure of truth. Now they’re just crazy and shallow.


13 posted on 05/01/2020 8:12:08 AM PDT by lurk
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I really like Ray Comfort's (Living Waters) method for explaining the Gospel to the lost. I think he does a great job of explaining to people that they in fact are "not special" (in spite of what their mothers tell them) and that we all need a Savior.

He also believes that the 20th Century evangelism methodology is why there is such a large "falling away" within American churches.

14 posted on 05/01/2020 8:18:24 AM PDT by Perseverando (Liberals, Progressives, Islamonazis, Statists, Commies, DemoKKKrats: It's a Godlessness disorder.)
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The poll probably distorts and exaggerated, but there may be some truth in it. Older people dying. Younger people spending too much time on their phones. That makes the US less religious than it was 10 years ago. The Bernie Sanders thing didn't help much either.

Western Europe lost religion when the consumer society came in. America already had mass consumption and was already more affluent than Europe, so consumerism didn't diminish America's religiosity. Social media, though, may be another story.

Religion does run in cycles in the US, though. There are periodic revivals or Great Awakenings when piety peaks and then there are the low points in between. The Fourth (or Fifth) Great Awakening began in the 1970s (if not earlier), so we are due for a trough and eventually a revival.

17 posted on 05/01/2020 9:17:53 AM PDT by x
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Early in the Pentecostal movement, many of the pastors were originally Baptists. Those pastors had a solid foundation of scripture and taught the scriptures. Once they died out, many were replaced with leaders who replaced teaching with preaching. Doctrine was replaced with emotional alter calls. And most of the alter calls have nothing to do with repentance or salvation.

I’d love to attend a charismatic church if I could find one that taught the scriptures and kept the music volume under control. Doesn’t exist any more.


18 posted on 05/01/2020 9:40:48 AM PDT by aimhigh (THIS is His commandment . . . . 1 John 3:23)
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I don’t understand why these two are lumped together; they’re nothing alike.


19 posted on 05/01/2020 9:50:33 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ( For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a SOUND MIND.)
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This sinful, apostate country deserves EVERYTHING we are getting, and all of what’s coming.


20 posted on 05/01/2020 10:37:56 AM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Politics is the continuation of war by other means. --Clausewitz)
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Amen!


22 posted on 05/01/2020 10:45:25 AM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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Or not.
23 posted on 05/01/2020 10:47:34 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Leave it to me to be holdin' the matches when the fire truck shows up & there's nobody else to blame)
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I do know for a fact that many of the friends I grew up with in my 20’s have had all their kids reject Christian thinking.

It wasn’t the thinking which did it.
It was the constant going to church and church events that did it.

Many of these friends went to church or events 3 times a week.
They had zero friends outside of Christianity.

I had pastors who told me I should go to college to become a pastor.
I told them they were nuts and went back to school for electronics.

I was successful.
Most of the others were not successful.


26 posted on 05/01/2020 11:55:58 AM PDT by Zathras
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Bookmark


30 posted on 05/01/2020 1:24:39 PM PDT by RightField
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Pentecostals who seek for the signs of the Spirit must be careful. There are other spirits out there besides the Holy one.


33 posted on 05/01/2020 10:42:18 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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A worship leader in a major Charismatic church that is often criticized for being doctrinally lax posted this on April 10: “I find myself increasingly troubled when I look at western Christian culture and see such a startling lack of representation or instruction on VITAL teachings in scripture; particularly the passages that warn and admonish..."

This is a big deal. Jeremy Riddle is one of the marquee names in the worship crowd at Bethel. Very influential guy, in that respect. May his concern and awareness spread throughout his sphere of influence. The modern "praise and worship" movement is largely devoid of any content that might harsh one's Holy Spirit buzz; it's encouraging to see one of the more prominent voices in the movement raise these concerns.

34 posted on 05/02/2020 12:47:58 AM PDT by Giuseppe Nova
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