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Pope Francis doubles down: Pandemic is ‘nature’s response’ to environmental damage
LifeSite News ^ | April 9, 2020 | Martin Bürger

Posted on 04/10/2020 8:30:21 AM PDT by ebb tide

Pope Francis doubles down: Pandemic is ‘nature’s response’ to environmental damage

The Pope believes the coronavirus pandemic is a response from the planet to environmental pollution.

ROME, Italy, April 9, 2020 (LifeSiteNews) – Pope Francis doubled-down on his belief that the COVID-19 pandemic sweeping around the world is “certainly nature’s response” to man’s failure to address humanity’s impact on the environment. 

When asked in an interview published by The Tablet on Wednesday if the current crisis and the economic devastation it is wreaking is a chance for an “ecological conversion,” the Pope responded: 

There is an expression in Spanish: “God always forgives, we forgive sometimes, but nature never forgives.” We did not respond to the partial catastrophes. Who now speaks of the fires in Australia, or remembers that 18 months ago a boat could cross the North Pole because the glaciers had all melted? Who speaks now of the floods? I don’t know if these are the revenge of nature, but they are certainly nature’s responses.

In March, the Pope said he believes that the coronavirus pandemic is nature “having a fit” in response to environmental pollution. “Fires, earthquakes … that is, nature is having a fit, so that we will take care of nature.”

During his homily at the Urbi et Orbi ceremony on April 1, Pope Francis returned to his theme of linking the coronavirus pandemic to a response from the planet to environmental pollution.

“In this world, that you love more than we do, we have gone ahead at breakneck speed, feeling powerful and able to do anything. Greedy for profit, we let ourselves get caught up in things, and lured away by haste. We did not stop at your reproach to us, we were not shaken awake by wars or injustice across the world, nor did we listen to the cry of the poor or of our ailing planet. We carried on regardless, thinking we would stay healthy in a world that was sick,” he said. 

But prelates such as Cardinal Paul Josef Cordes and Bishop Athanasius Schneider see the corona crisis as a punishment from God, just as God has punished His people in the past when they erred into sin and faithlessness. Recently, Bishop Schneider had called the coronavirus crisis “a divine intervention to chastise and purify the sinful world and also the Church.”

Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò, in a March 29 interview with Michael Matt of The Remnant, also linked the coronavirus to chastisement from God for sin while calling on Pope Francis to “convert” for having brought into the Church the “terrible sacrilege” of the idolatry of Pachamama. 

“The Pope, the Hierarchy, and all Bishops, Priests and Religious must immediately and absolutely convert,” he said. 

“[These clerics] have even committed acts of unprecedented gravity, such as we saw with the adoration of the pachamama idol in the Vatican itself,” he said.

“Indeed, I think Our Lord has rightly become indignant at the great multitude of scandals committed by those who ought to be setting a good example, because they are Shepherds, to the flocks to whom they have been entrusted.”

Pope Francis argued in his interview with The Tablet that the pandemic is an opportunity “to slow down our rate of production and consumption … and to learn to understand and contemplate the natural world. We need to reconnect with our real surroundings. This is the opportunity for conversion.”

“This is the time to take the decisive step, to move from using and misusing nature to contemplating it. We have lost the contemplative dimension; we have to get it back at this time,” he added.

In vague terms, the Holy Father said he wanted a Church “less attached to certain ways of thinking.”

He explained that the Church as such is, in fact, an institution. “The temptation is to dream of a de-institutionalised Church, a gnostic Church without institutions, or one that is subject to fixed institutions, which would be a Pelagian Church.”

“The one who makes the Church is the Holy Spirit, who is neither gnostic nor Pelagian,” Pope Francis continued. “It is the Holy Spirit who institutionalises the Church, in an alternative, complementary way, because the Holy Spirit provokes disorder through the charisms, but then out of that disorder creates harmony.”

“A tension between disorder and harmony: this is the Church that must come out of the crisis. We have to learn to live in a Church that exists in the tension between harmony and disorder provoked by the Holy Spirit,” Francis said, without explaining how the Holy Spirit can be connected to disorder.

In fact, the Catechism of the Catholic Church quotes St. Irenaeus, who called the Father “the giver of order.” As creation is “the common work of the Holy Trinity,” and since there is no contradiction in God, also the Son and the Holy Spirit give order.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology
KEYWORDS: apostate; blasphemy; francischism; idolatry; paganism
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To: ebb tide

Martin Luther 2.0, where are you!?


21 posted on 04/10/2020 8:45:48 AM PDT by Redleg Duke (We live on a tax farm as free-range humans!)
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To: ebb tide

Someone sneeze on him.


22 posted on 04/10/2020 8:46:18 AM PDT by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same.)
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To: G Larry
grrrrr....

"...are among the behaviors God is ANGRY about?"

23 posted on 04/10/2020 8:46:53 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: Redleg Duke
Luther is a heretic!

Man will not resolve the issues in today's church, just as Luther failed 500 years ago.

Only prayer and a return to God will resolve the current issues.

None of which, by the way, have been pronounced Ex Cathedra, so Catholic Doctrine remains sound.

24 posted on 04/10/2020 8:50:39 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: G Larry

AMEN!!!


25 posted on 04/10/2020 8:51:39 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ebb tide

Is this guy a pope or just a Yippie in a fancy robe? Does he read the Bible or Mother Earth News?


26 posted on 04/10/2020 8:52:06 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: ebb tide

I continue to marvel that this blathering kook ever became the Pope.


27 posted on 04/10/2020 8:57:26 AM PDT by Rockingham
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PF is a blithering idiot....


28 posted on 04/10/2020 8:58:02 AM PDT by TnTnTn
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To: Sacajaweau

“No one expects the Spanish Inquisition”


29 posted on 04/10/2020 8:58:42 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: ebb tide

Antipope


30 posted on 04/10/2020 9:00:13 AM PDT by carikadon (Don't mess with Texas)
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To: ebb tide

Here the Pope seperates God from His nature, the nature He created. Where is this in the Gospel?


31 posted on 04/10/2020 9:00:48 AM PDT by TalBlack
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To: ebb tide

Hmmm! We are bowing down to computer model and using them to predict the future. (”divination”)


32 posted on 04/10/2020 9:02:37 AM PDT by the_daug
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To: ebb tide

That Mother Nature. She’s a vindictive one.


33 posted on 04/10/2020 9:08:04 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Under construction)
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To: Obadiah

Yep.


34 posted on 04/10/2020 9:15:21 AM PDT by Bigg Red (WWG1WGA)
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To: fuente

::The church is rotting from the head...::

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No, Christ’s Church is not rotting. This heretic will be gone soon, and the Church will be reordered.


35 posted on 04/10/2020 9:17:41 AM PDT by Bigg Red (WWG1WGA)
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To: ebb tide

So the pope is supposed to be the vicar of Christ, acting vicariously in the place of Christ, infallible in matters of doctrine, and there a clear identifiable succession of popes going back to Peter? However this pope doesn’t seem to be remotely aligned with Roman Catholic dogma.

I’ll ignore for a moment the amount of times that doctrine has changed in this church in ways that has had present popes disagreeing doctrinally with the supposedly infallible pronouncemets of previous popes. We’ll put aside the years when there were competing claims for the office of the pope.

The question that Catholics need to answer is that if Francis is a heretic, and many of you seem to agree that he is, then where is the real pope now? Is is Benedict? (who willingly stepped down and told people last year that there is only one pope, Francis). There has to be an unbroken succession right? If so it looks like Francis is your man, like it or not..

I’ll continue to build my house on the rock of the teachings of Christ (as revealed and recorded in Scripture). Sola ecclesia is not for me. The message just isn’t consistent.


36 posted on 04/10/2020 9:18:04 AM PDT by winslow
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To: Bigg Red

No, Christ’s Church is not rotting. This heretic will be gone soon, and the Church will be reordered.

When exactly is that going to happen? This guy has been a disaster from the beginning. The church will only listen when attendance is way down and the money stops.


37 posted on 04/10/2020 9:22:37 AM PDT by TheRake
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To: ebb tide

So is toenail fungus. What an ass.


38 posted on 04/10/2020 9:35:30 AM PDT by seawolf101 (Member LES DEPLORABLES)
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To: ebb tide

B*LLSH*T Remember Broward county in FL in 2016 - videos of unmarked trucks and cars with trunks full of ballot boxes arriving at the headquarters elections office in the wee hours of the morning and late at nite for days after the election! They just kept coming UNTIL they had the votes they needed to cheat the election! this is the play book in right in front of our eyes for 2020 in the national election and the bio weapon of mass destruction is the mechanism to cause this to happen! - Cloward and Pivens state - never let a good crisis go to waste! Well this one was created to to do this! Horrible people to do this!


39 posted on 04/10/2020 9:35:43 AM PDT by ldish (2020 Election will determind if USA remains a Consitutional Republic!)
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To: treetopsandroofs; All
"CPF* reads the scripts our enemies put in front of him, too.

* Commie Popie Frankie"

Just like Obama did.

40 posted on 04/10/2020 9:41:38 AM PDT by Amendment10
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