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Australian Law Demands Priests Break Seal of Confession
Church Militant ^ | 2/18/20 | Bradley Eli

Posted on 02/20/2020 5:44:59 PM PST by marshmallow

Clerics must choose between prison or excommunication

MELBOURNE, Victoria, Australia (ChurchMilitant.com) - Priests in the Australian state of Victoria must now choose between being jailed for keeping the seal of confession or being excommunicated for breaking it.

A state law took effect on Monday that forces priests in the state to report knowledge of child sexual abuse gained from the sacrament of confession or face up to three years in prison. Victoria's Attorney-General Jill Hennessy asserts that priests can no longer use the confessional seal as a reason for not reporting child abuse.

"From [Monday], our promise to put the safety of children ahead of the secrecy of the confession is in full effect and there is no excuse for people who fail to report abuse," remarked Hennessy.

Any Catholic priest revealing confessional matter for any reason, however, is automatically excommunicated as per Catholic Church law.

The law, titled the Children Legislation Amendment Act of 2019 (CLAA), was passed in September but only came into force this week. The CLAA states its main goals are "to include persons in religious ministry as mandatory reporters" and to clarify that any "mandatory reporter is not able to rely on the religious confession privilege" to avoid reporting child sexual abuse.

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TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: accessory2crime; millstoneneeded
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1 posted on 02/20/2020 5:44:59 PM PST by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow

Once they force priests to break that they will want any and all information from them. So in the long run people will no longer confess.


2 posted on 02/20/2020 5:47:35 PM PST by Captain Peter Blood (https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3804407/posts?q=1&;page=61)
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To: Captain Peter Blood
Once they force priests to break that they will want any and all information from them. So in the long run people will no longer confess.

There is nothing biblical about confession. Cut out the middleman and confess to your God directly. Protestants have been doing it successfully for centuries now.

3 posted on 02/20/2020 5:51:25 PM PST by AlaskaErik
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To: AlaskaErik

Bingo!!! And well said.


4 posted on 02/20/2020 5:52:59 PM PST by Fungi
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To: marshmallow
When a person testifies in court, are they required to take an oath for honesty and truth? So, if the court recognizes the importance of an oath, they should be aware a priest has already taken an oath to not divulge confessions. Else the court is a hypocrite. Let the priest say whatever he thinks prudent or remain silent.
5 posted on 02/20/2020 5:53:48 PM PST by BipolarBob (I asked my cat who his favorite socialist was. He looked at me and said Mao.)
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To: AlaskaErik

There is nothing christian or logical about supporting this law whether or not you believe in confession. All it will do is stop people from confessing.


6 posted on 02/20/2020 5:56:15 PM PST by jarwulf
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To: AlaskaErik

Now let’s demand that Protestants give up using the King James version of the Bible. Makes sense to me so just forget about your 400 years of tradition.


7 posted on 02/20/2020 5:56:49 PM PST by Prince of Space (Jerry...Jerry...Jerry...)
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To: AlaskaErik
Hold on there A-Erik. You're solving a conundrum here in Solomon style wisdom and that won't do. Nosirreee. Catholics have tradition. Bible precedent - not so much. Not on Pope Benedicts Berglios watch.
8 posted on 02/20/2020 5:57:49 PM PST by BipolarBob (I asked my cat who his favorite socialist was. He looked at me and said Mao.)
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To: marshmallow

And if said child molester confesses to his lawyer, is the lawyer then required to inform the court? Get back to me when he is.


9 posted on 02/20/2020 5:57:53 PM PST by NurdlyPeon (It is the nature of liberals to pervert whatever they touch.)
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To: marshmallow
What happens in the case of a traditional closed confession where the priest doesn't see the person confessing?

If the priest were forced to report, would the entire congregation be forced to state whether or not they were the one who made the confession?

10 posted on 02/20/2020 5:59:48 PM PST by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Prince of Space
Now let’s demand that Protestants give up using the King James version of the Bible. Makes sense to me so just forget about your 400 years of tradition.

Hold on there. If the King James Bible was good enough for Moses and Jesus and the Disciples it's good enough for me.

11 posted on 02/20/2020 5:59:51 PM PST by BipolarBob (I asked my cat who his favorite socialist was. He looked at me and said Mao.)
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To: AlaskaErik; Fungi
There is nothing biblical about confession.

[23] Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained. John Chapter 20.

12 posted on 02/20/2020 6:00:05 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: NurdlyPeon

“And if said child molester confesses to his lawyer, is the lawyer then required to inform the court? Get back to me when he is.”

Excellent answer!


13 posted on 02/20/2020 6:00:52 PM PST by CondorFlight
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To: jarwulf

There is nothing christian or logical about knowingly concealing crimes against children from law enforcement.

Nothing.

L


14 posted on 02/20/2020 6:01:44 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: NurdlyPeon

“And if said child molester confesses to his lawyer, is the lawyer then required to inform the court?”

Yes, he or she is.

L


15 posted on 02/20/2020 6:02:22 PM PST by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: marshmallow

I’m not Catholic but that’s not right. What’s next? Lawyer, doctor?


16 posted on 02/20/2020 6:06:44 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: marshmallow

If a priest knows a crime (rape and murder, for example), they should report it. Else, they may claim religion, but it is blood on their hands.


17 posted on 02/20/2020 6:09:14 PM PST by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: BipolarBob

My point was since ppl of different religions on this site apparently can dictate what another religion should or should not allow, I’m throwing my demand into the arena. Otherwise I’d just keep my mouth shut because it doesn’t pertain to me, like you should’ve done, but I guess the standard has changed around here.


18 posted on 02/20/2020 6:10:10 PM PST by Prince of Space (Jerry...Jerry...Jerry...)
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To: marshmallow

What they didn’t know is that there are a lot of priests more than willing to be persecuted, or even martyred for their faith.

Right now, this is just begging for a test case. Will the prosecution try to exclude Catholics from the jury? No matter how they do it, the government will end up with egg on their face.

Conversely, so child abuser who knows he is soon to be arrested might go out of his way to offer confessions to many priests. Will they prosecute a half dozen priests who refuse to cooperate?


19 posted on 02/20/2020 6:11:17 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Liberalism is the belief everyone else should be in treatment for your disorder.)
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To: marshmallow
"Officer...I don't have the first clue whose confessions I hear.Do some research and you'll understand how it works.I can't see the person and I don't recognize voices."

"I'm very sorry that I can't help you with your inquiries."

20 posted on 02/20/2020 6:12:48 PM PST by Gay State Conservative (The Rats Can't Get Over The Fact That They Lost A Rigged Election)
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