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Why Kobe Bryant took his Catholic faith so seriously
Angelus News ^ | Feb 2020 | Tom Hoffarth and Steve Lowery |

Posted on 02/09/2020 12:14:01 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege

--The fact that Bryant took his faith so seriously seemed to take many, including those in the media, by surprise.

The day after his last NBA game, one in which he scored 60 points, he told an ESPN reporter that he celebrated by rising early, drinking a cup of coffee, and going to church.

“It was me, alone,” he said. “After 20 years, I think it’s important to give thanks.”

When, by his own admission, he had allowed his life to spin completely out of control, being accused of rape in a Colorado hotel room, one of the first people he turned to was a Catholic priest, telling GQ magazine, “The one thing that really helped me during that process was talking to a priest.”

Parishioner Dominic Picarelli said he’d seen Bryant often over the past 16 years...He said he was perhaps most impressed at seeing Bryant consistently, session after session, as his daughter Natalia and Picarelli’s son, Ethan, went through the two-year process of first Holy Communion.

Those at the Pauline Center for Media Studies in Culver City had a special moment to reflect upon. Sister Rose Pacatte posted a short story on Pauline.org about the day in 2004 when Bryant visited:

"He was looking for a special rosary for his wife, Vanessa. As the sister who was there tells the story, the other shoppers stopped and looked in awe as he moved quietly around the shop.”

“As he turned to leave, a small grandmotherly-looking lady walked up to him and tilted her head up, way up.

“ ‘Mr. Bryant?’

“ ‘Yes, ma’am?’ he replied as he looked down to meet her gaze.

“ ‘I just want you to know,’ she said solemnly, ‘I pray for you.’

“He paused a moment and said, ‘Thank you, ma’am.’ ”

(Excerpt) Read more at angelusnews.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic
KEYWORDS: catholic; christianity; faith; kobe; kobebryant; rapist
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To: Dacula

shut up...

exact words.

right back at ya


61 posted on 02/09/2020 2:33:16 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

I am done with arguing with you.

You said I was quoted saying “Shut your mouth”. That is not true and you agreed with your last comment.

My comment was to shut the conversation and not the mouth.

-****
The Framers of the Constitution knew that free speech is the friend of change and revolution. But they also knew that it is always the deadliest enemy of tyranny.


62 posted on 02/09/2020 2:38:44 PM PST by Dacula
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To: RummyChick
#BelieveAllWomen, lol

No criminal trial and verdict, defense had a lot of testimony from friends of the accuser, such as Laie Weatherwax, explaining how loose and manipulative Kate Faber is along with men who ran a train on her with the accused consent. Also, Laie Weatherwax testified they had plans to target some white rapper with a fake charge as well, Eminem or someone like that.

Huck: So based on your conversations with Kate Faber. If the facts in the Bryant encounter were to indicate that Kate had sex with Kobe from behind, would this surprise you?

Laie: No.

Huck: If you were to learn that she had performed oral sex on Kobe Bryant, again based on your conversations and personal knowledge about Kate Faber. Would this surprise you?

Laie: No.

Huck: If you were to learn that prior to her encounter with Kobe Bryant, she had told someone else in the middle of a sexual act to stop, and then discussed what would constitute rape with that person. Would that surprise you?

Laie: No.

Huck: Tell me about when you, Kate and Mandy would go out, was there ever times that you did so with your only objective being to pick of three guys and go someplace to have sex? That this would have been a planned objective that you discussed before you went out.

Laie: Wasn't so much a planned objective to where we had a game plan mapped out. But it was just something we know and was understood between us.

Huck: Explain to me about the occasions when the three of you went out to hook up with some guys, and you first heard the term "take one for the team?"

Laie: That was used in relation to Mandy. Mandy isn't the most gorgeous woman. So the guys knew that if they were going to get me or Kate that night, they were going to have to get one of their friends to be with Mandy. Afterwards the guys would be talking that "one of our guys had to take one for the team tonight" in reference to Mandy.

Huck: When Kate went out with you to the clubs or parties. Was she usually looking for someone to have sex with?

Laie: If the opportunity arose, she'd jump on it.

Huck: I just want to clarify something we talked about earlier, but you caught me off guard. You mentioned that Kate had an abortion. Is this true?

Laie: Yes.

Huck: How do you know that she was actually pregnant?

Laie: She took a pregnancy test at my apartment.

Huck: So she actually took the test at your apartment?

Laie: Yes.

Huck: And you witnessed that the test was postitive?

Laie: Yes.

https://www.sporttaco.com/rec.sport.basketball.pro/Before_Kobe_Bryant_Kate_Faber_Had_Others_On_Her_Mind_3365.html

Was Kobe innocent? Not sure, again he could have forcibly backdoored her (With vaginal being consensual) but the fact that Faber had witnesses lining against her explaining how loose she was did not help the prosecutors case at all.

Riddle me that please.
63 posted on 02/09/2020 2:46:45 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: RummyChick
That is true, do the crime pay the temporal price, however, again things get sketchy with "he said she said" in the time of sexual freedoms.
64 posted on 02/09/2020 2:48:59 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: Conserv
Oh, so now it’s plural? Stop making sh!t up.

RummyChick named herself correctly. So, it would be a GIANT waste of time to take what she says seriously.

65 posted on 02/09/2020 3:16:51 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: rollo tomasi
Priest who diddle little kids are probably reprobates who are still enamored about what they did. They are incapable of seeking repentance because of their pride. Those who do would be led to confess publicly and accept their temporal fate.
The power hiding the perverted events are in the same boat as well as any "Protestant" preachers (Plenty of non-Roman Catholic kiddy-diddler preachers as well)and congregation covering for him or her.

Those miscreants will, someday, have to meet our Maker. Children are the MOST innocent and vulnerable. Child molesters existed, exist and will continue to exist until the end of time.

NO society is without them. NO profession is without them.

Our mass media has ALWAYS had it in for Catholic priests...mostly because priests CALL people out for their sins. Political correctness isn't part of their job.

66 posted on 02/09/2020 3:21:05 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

Hey, holy person... actor. This site has rules, ping the person you are talking about.. stop this Kobe beef worship and there would be no push back. You want to bash someone use your ‘private’ ping. This man was a serial adulterous player. His wife filed divorce papers once upon a time for his never ending adultery.


67 posted on 02/09/2020 3:23:28 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
How long does take to become a saint these days..? Think maybe there will be a holy day added to the calendar? I anticipate ol Ted Kennedy is near ripe for such pronouncement.
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The path to sainthood is a long and tortuous one. Two miracles have to be verified...that one always interests me.

You can go to any Catholic website and ask that question.

There are FAR more saints than on a simple Catholic calendar. There are a MULTITUDE of saints for every day. The Catholic Church HAS been around a while.

Usually some country, area, parish or whatever has a favorite saint.
Mary is our lady of Guadalupe and is famous in Mexico because she appeared to that poor Indian peasant, Juan Diego.
Our Lady of Guadalupe, Spanish Nuestra Señora de Guadalupe, also called the Virgin of Guadalupe, in Roman Catholicism, the Virgin Mary in her appearance before St. Juan Diego in a vision in 1531. The name also refers to the Marian apparition itself.

68 posted on 02/09/2020 3:29:39 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Just mythoughts
Hey, holy person... actor. This site has rules, ping the person you are talking about.. stop this Kobe beef worship and there would be no push back. You want to bash someone use your ‘private’ ping. This man was a serial adulterous player. His wife filed divorce papers once upon a time for his never ending adultery.

Me? Holy person...actor? What the heck are you babbling about?
For me Kobe Bryant was a pro basketball player. He died in a helicopter accident. His daughter was with him. He AND his daughter met our Maker that day.

It's a shame, that's all, especially for his daughter. HER life was over almost before it started.
Now, get off my back.

69 posted on 02/09/2020 3:33:46 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

Paul penned that the ‘saints’ (elect) were chosen by the Heavenly Father ‘before’ the foundation of the world. Perhaps a word study as to what ‘foundation of the world’, really means, would set the time when and why some were chosen. Man has no collective or monetary say as to whom the saints are.. their tradition has no long term standing.


70 posted on 02/09/2020 3:38:54 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: Just mythoughts
Paul penned that the ‘saints’ (elect) were chosen by the Heavenly Father ‘before’ the foundation of the world. Perhaps a word study as to what ‘foundation of the world’, really means, would set the time when and why some were chosen. Man has no collective or monetary say as to whom the saints are.. their tradition has no long term standing.

They might have been chosen but mere mortal Catholics got the sainthood on its path. Sainthood didn't grow out of the ground. Mere mortals had to propose it.

There USED to be a position in the Catholic Church called the "Devil's Advocate."
That position had the dubious position to point out whatever faults that the saint-to-be had. NO one was perfect and the Church had to decide if said saint-to-be would STILL be canonized.

Foundation of the world as we know it: I assume it meant the rise of homo sapiens.

If it weren't for the Church there would be no saints.
We are all saints and sinners...at one time or another.

71 posted on 02/09/2020 3:46:39 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

I surely did not intend to confuse you..That is what that word babbling (Babel) and it’s various forms mean. Confusion... again rule of this site ... ping the person being talked about.

Shame? This thread is about 1 man and his church. Maybe make Kobe worship threads a ‘caucus’ thread in the religion department.


72 posted on 02/09/2020 3:49:40 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: cloudmountain

You have precisely made my point.. mere mortals got it started.

‘Foundation of the world’ means ‘casting down - overthrow’. Refers to Genesis 1: 2. Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 give the details.


73 posted on 02/09/2020 3:54:18 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: cloudmountain

“ The path to sainthood is a long and tortuous one.

Not in Scripture.


74 posted on 02/09/2020 4:00:49 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: RummyChick

It doesn’t make it ok to do, but it does give you forgiveness from the Lord, just like the various sins you’ve committed. Surely you realize that repenting is one of the basic parts of Christian faith?


75 posted on 02/09/2020 4:01:43 PM PST by allwrong57
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To: Just mythoughts
I surely did not intend to confuse you..That is what that word babbling (Babel) and it’s various forms mean. Confusion... again rule of this site ... ping the person being talked about.

Whew! I was really worried about you confusing me. Not.

Shame? This thread is about 1 man and his church. Maybe make Kobe worship threads a ‘caucus’ thread in the religion department.
Sounds like a good idea.
1. The altar could be a mini-sized basketball court, with all the lines a normal court would have.
2. The central figure on the altar could be Bryant making some cool three-pointer...in lieu of a cross.
3. His daughter could be off to the side as an "alternate" figure of worship, for teenagers.
4. The sound of bouncing basketballs could be the music for the service.
5. Those who help the service would be wearing basketball jerseys and shorts with HUGE tennis shoes.
6. Shaquille O'Neal's size 22 shoes could be a "side" altar.
7. The Harlem Globetrotters could be "guest" speakers.

76 posted on 02/09/2020 4:02:06 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: Vermont Lt

I have a friend that was killed by a Mexican. Should a good Christian therefore have no love for Mexicans? Just asking!


77 posted on 02/09/2020 4:03:53 PM PST by allwrong57
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To: cloudmountain

Wow... holy, holy, holy...


78 posted on 02/09/2020 4:03:59 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

actually it is. St Paul talked a lot about it being a ‘race’ and that to the best of his knowledge, he had nothing on his conscience, but he left it up to God. Isn’t that in scripture, or do you use some other bible?


79 posted on 02/09/2020 4:05:28 PM PST by allwrong57
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
“ The path to sainthood is a long and tortuous one,
Not in Scripture.

"Scripture" did not pronounce sainthood...the Catholic Church did.
The Catholic Church put together Scripture, not the Protestants. There WERE no Protestants until CATHOLIC PRIEST FATHER MARTIN LUTHER broke from the Catholic Church in the 1540's--FIVE HUNDRED YEARS AGO.
The Catholic Church has been around since Jesus...2000 years ago.

.

How bout "aMorePerfectBrain"?
That would be relief after reading your befuddled statements.

80 posted on 02/09/2020 4:09:00 PM PST by cloudmountain
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