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There Is Already A Schism: Two Religions In One Church
Gloria TV ^ | January 20, 2020 | Gloria TV

Posted on 01/20/2020 5:46:32 PM PST by ebb tide

There Is Already A Schism: Two Religions In One Church

There is already a practical, but not yet formal schism in the Church, said Italian historian Professor Roberto de Mattei.

Talking at the January 18 "Acies Ordinata" presser in Munich (English video here), De Mattei stated that "there are two different religions within the same Church."

He distinguished between the religion of the German bishops around Cardinal Marx on one side, and the Catholic religion on the other side.

De Mattei stressed that Francis has also to decide whether he wants to be the Vicar of Christ or "the head of the German-Amazonic Church."

The talks at the presser are published on Gloria.tv in Englisch, German and Italian.



TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic
KEYWORDS: amazon; apostasy; francischism; germans
De Mattei stressed that Francis has also to decide whether he wants to be the Vicar of Christ or "the head of the German-Amazonic Church."


1 posted on 01/20/2020 5:46:32 PM PST by ebb tide
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2 posted on 01/20/2020 5:47:43 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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Sometimes feel like you're going crazy? Fr. Tom Weinandy refers to this truly surreal situation as an "Internal Papal Schism" (LINK) I.e. the Pope is the titular and/or the practical head of both the Church and the anti-Church simultaneously.

Weinandy, who has made a lifelong study of such things, says this bizarre phenomenon is historically unprecedented.

3 posted on 01/20/2020 5:56:13 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (Romans 12:9 - "Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.")
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Socialist Communist Fathers hiding their from authority in every S. America country since the 50s has ruined Global Catholicism. Mix with homos and how could God mattwr....


4 posted on 01/20/2020 6:19:00 PM PST by Jumper
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Socialist Communist Fathers hiding their from authority in every S. America country since the 50s has ruined Global Catholicism. Mix with homos and how could God mattwr....
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The great Schism in the Church began the day the Satan Council (Vatican II) began in 1962.


5 posted on 01/20/2020 7:32:32 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (To save America the Left MUST be aggressively attacked on every front.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Fr Weinandy’s analysis is spot on.


6 posted on 01/20/2020 8:17:04 PM PST by irishjuggler
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To: Mrs. Don-o

And where is the Catholic teaching that Christ’s Vicar can be both the Visible Head of His Catholic Church and a false church at the same time? Sounds like heresy to me.


7 posted on 01/21/2020 1:55:12 PM PST by piusv (Francis didn't start the Fire)
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Of course Francis cannot be head of both Church and Anti-Church. Even if he had a Dissociative identity disorder (multiple personality disorder)!

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8 posted on 01/21/2020 2:12:36 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by diabolical disorientation.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

It sounds like Wienandy thinks it *is* possible: “a bizarre phenomenon”.


9 posted on 01/21/2020 2:29:46 PM PST by piusv (Francis didn't start the Fire)
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That’s what makes it so surreal.


10 posted on 01/21/2020 6:44:04 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good." - Romans 12:9)
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To: ebb tide

And then there’s OMCET.


11 posted on 01/22/2020 10:50:54 AM PST by ealgeone
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“ The great Schism in the Church began the day the Satan Council (Vatican II) began in 1962.“

Protestant theologians were allowed to participate in V2 and that’s why the Mass that came out of it is indistinguishable with a Protestant service, most notably Lutheran and Angelican services. The Church that came out of V2 is protestant. No one had the right to change the Mass. Real Catholics attend Traditional Latin Mass, not the Protestant garbage being peddled as Catholicism.


12 posted on 01/22/2020 9:04:50 PM PST by NKP_Vet ("Man without God descends into madness”)
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Real Catholics attend Traditional Latin Mass, not the Protestant garbage being peddled as Catholicism.
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Well, they do if any such Masses are celebrated close enough to their homes. Unfortunately many Tridentine Catholics, myself included, would have to travel great distances to attend the Traditional Latin Mass. The closest one to where I live is 75 miles away! That’s 150 mile round-trip drive, sometimes in very inclement weather conditions.


13 posted on 01/22/2020 9:33:56 PM PST by fortes fortuna juvat (To save America the Left MUST be aggressively attacked on every front.)
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To: piusv

calling anyone Christ’s vicar sounds like heresy to me.


14 posted on 01/22/2020 9:36:47 PM PST by Mom MD
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