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Franciscan group defends image of Virgin Mary with Pachamama: We show Jesus next to a donkey
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Posted on 12/26/2019 8:31:29 AM PST by ebb tide

Franciscan group defends image of Virgin Mary with Pachamama: We show Jesus next to a donkey


Screenshot of the header image in the Christmas email from Franciscans International

December 24, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) – A Christmas greeting from Franciscans International (FI), a human rights group formed by various Franciscan orders, depicted the Andean earth-goddess “Pachamama” alongside the Blessed Virgin Mary.

In an email to a concerned Catholic obtained by LifeSiteNews, FI executive director Fr. Markus Heinze OFM defended doing so.

“Regarding your accusation of the message of the Christmas Card, I don’t want to go into details, I just don’t understand why it you see it as a sacrilege to bring Mary together with the pagan symbol for mother earth while we are all used to put a donkey next to the newborn Jesus,” he wrote. “The donkey is the symbol for the pagans. And we do this because we believe that God came into our world in Jesus to meet all people including the pagans.”

“So the sacrilege is not to meet pagans, the sacrilege is when we don’t meet them with respect as Christianity did in the past when they killed hundreds of thousands of indigenes and destroyed their land and culture,” Heinze concluded.

In FI’s original Christmas greeting, Heinze wrote:

In the context of the nativity, Luke tells us about the meeting between Mary and her cousin Elizabeth. The two women, both expecting a child, meet each other with attentiveness and sensitivity. At the opening of the Synod, Pope Francis asked us to approach the peoples of the Amazon on our ‘tiptoes’.

In this picture you see Mary, who we honor as the ‘new Eve’ or Mother of Life, together with Pachamama, who some indigenous peoples honor as the ‘earth mother’. Francis of Assisi too describes the earth as our mother in the Canticle.

Pachamama, a nude, red-wombed pregnant Amazonian woman, faces the Virgin Mary in the image FI used atop its email greeting. 

The greeting concluded: “Celebrating Christmas, I wish that we may approach God and each other on our ‘tiptoes’ so that we experience in these meetings the ‘real living’.”

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Screenshot from https://mailchi.mp/fiop.org/franciscans-international-wishes-you-a-merry-christmas-4jpx3bd2c4-1217907?e=bec09c4b66; accessed Dec 24, 2019

Pope Francis blessed a Pachamama statue at an October 4 tree-planting ritual in the Vatican gardens kicking off the Amazon Synod. Several Pachamama statues were then displayed inside Santa Maria in Traspontina church near the Vatican. This prompted 26-year-old Austrian Alexander Tschugguel to remove them and toss them in the Tiber River.

They were allegedly recovered. Pope Francis later issued a statement in which he apologized as “Bishop of Rome” for the removal of the “statues of the Pachamama” from the church. He claimed that they were there “without idolatrous intentions.”

Archbishop Carlo Maria Viganò has joined more than 100 other prominent Catholics in calling on Pope Francis to repent for his participation in the pagan ritual. Separately, prominent churchmen Cardinal Walter Brandmüller, Cardinal Raymond Burke, Cardinal Gerhard Müller, Cardinal Jorge Urosa Savino, Bishop Athanasius Schneider, Bishop José Luis Azcona Hermoso, Bishop Rudolf Voderholzer, and Bishop Marian Eleganti have also voiced concerns over the Pachamama rituals.

Franciscans International says on its website that it enjoys consultative status at the United Nations as a “non-profit, international non-governmental human rights organisation” to “promote and protect human rights and environmental justice.”

Its social media posts indicate it is currently engaged in a campaign against ritual infanticide in the West African country of Benin.

Infanticide committed by Amazonian natives came up several times during synod press conferences.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Worship
KEYWORDS: almostunbelievable; antipope; franciscans; francischism; homosexualagenda; pachamama; paganism; popefrancis; romancatholicism
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1 posted on 12/26/2019 8:31:29 AM PST by ebb tide
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2 posted on 12/26/2019 8:32:03 AM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

The virgin Mary with pagan Pachamama is not analogous to Jesus next to a donkey. Not even close.


3 posted on 12/26/2019 8:36:59 AM PST by Jim W N (MAGA by restoring the Gospel of the Grace of Christ and our Free Constitutional Republic!)
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To: ebb tide
From Wikipedia:
Pachamama is a goddess revered by the indigenous people of the Andes. She is also known as the earth/time mother. In Inca mythology, Pachamama is a fertility goddess who presides over planting and harvesting, embodies the mountains, and causes earthquakes.

It seems the Franciscans are just as horrible as the Jesuits.
 

4 posted on 12/26/2019 8:41:12 AM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (Guide me, O thou great redeemer, pilgrim through this barren land.)
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To: ebb tide

“The donkey is the symbol for the pagans.”

Jesus rode a pagan into Jerusalem?

No, donkeys are a symbol of low class labor in that region. And by symbol I mean a normal part of what was commonly used, not symbol as in some overwrought word-thinking intellectualism.


5 posted on 12/26/2019 8:45:54 AM PST by ctdonath2 (Democrats oppose democracy.)
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To: ebb tide

Making it up. Its what the pagans do.


6 posted on 12/26/2019 8:47:27 AM PST by Bayard
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To: ctdonath2

Donkey is a symbol of Issachar, son (and tribe) of Jacob who studied Torah and dwelt in tents.


7 posted on 12/26/2019 8:55:14 AM PST by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: ctdonath2

“Jesus rode a pagan into Jerusalem?”

Hahahahaha! That is hilarious!


8 posted on 12/26/2019 8:55:59 AM PST by cdcdawg (Cornpop was a bad dude!)
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To: ctdonath2

“The donkey is the symbol for the pagans.”

This is absurd and utterly false.


9 posted on 12/26/2019 9:01:22 AM PST by Ouchthatonehurt
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

Agreed. I’ve never ever heard that interpretation - even among the pagans


10 posted on 12/26/2019 9:06:37 AM PST by Skywise
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To: ebb tide

This response is insane. The Church is fairly choking on the smoke of satan in the sanctuary.


11 posted on 12/26/2019 9:09:24 AM PST by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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To: ebb tide

Someone should inform the Franciscans that a donkey is not a pagan idol.


12 posted on 12/26/2019 9:19:06 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: ebb tide

Disgusting!

Prayers for Holy Mother Church.


13 posted on 12/26/2019 9:37:19 AM PST by Bigg Red (WWG1WGA)
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To: ebb tide

Throw that pagan idol into the fire.


14 posted on 12/26/2019 9:44:12 AM PST by bigbob (Trust Trump. Trust the Plan.)
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To: Jim W N
The virgin Mary with pagan Pachamama is not analogous to Jesus next to a donkey. Not even close.

However the Franciscan group, or at least their spokesman proved that they are just as big an A$$ as pope socialista.

15 posted on 12/26/2019 10:11:07 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: ebb tide

These Franciscans appear to be a bunch of jackasses.


16 posted on 12/26/2019 10:13:08 AM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: ebb tide

Alinsky them I say.

Vatican equates Pachamama to a donkey in an culturally insensitive response.


17 posted on 12/26/2019 10:20:47 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Antoninus
Pope Francis and the Priests had no issues 'participating' along with the groups ritual, nor the inclusion of their pagan Idol being brought into the church.

The woman who planted the tree 'with' Pope Francis says the aim was 'to satisfy the hunger of Mother Earth' and reconnect with the 'divinity present in the Amazonian soil'...

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/H6P39XswlzI/maxresdefault.jpg


18 posted on 12/26/2019 10:35:55 AM PST by caww
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To: ebb tide

Talk about a non-sequitur.
Apparently these Franciscans have been taking lessons from Jesuits - and not learning very well.


19 posted on 12/26/2019 11:02:20 AM PST by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: caww
No kidding. This is why a few brave Catholics took the idols out of one of the churches where they were housed and threw them into the Tiber.

BTW, that last photo you posted was fake PhotoShop job. If you're going to post items like this, don't resort to CNN-style tactics.
20 posted on 12/26/2019 11:21:49 AM PST by Antoninus ("In Washington, swamp drain you.")
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