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Probably the best I've seen on "the Galli affair" so far.

The original CT editorial is "Same old same old", on the horrors of Trump, by someone who "doesn't know anyone who voted for DJT", and doesn't have a clue why anyone would.

1 posted on 12/25/2019 7:42:25 AM PST by Lee N. Field
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My sense is that evangelicalism has always been more sociologically than theologically determined, and I suppose it’s appropriate that sociology is now the engine of its demolition.


from the article

Right now everything is social justice.


2 posted on 12/25/2019 7:46:22 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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The old I am not like those Christians. I am tolerant and inclusive.


3 posted on 12/25/2019 7:49:21 AM PST by bray (Pray for President Trump)
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I suspect the biggest cheerleaders of Galli are atheists and those who hate Christians.


4 posted on 12/25/2019 7:53:10 AM PST by Fido969 (In!)
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Bump


5 posted on 12/25/2019 7:55:37 AM PST by foreverfree
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“The Christianity Today Editorial on Trump: ‘We’re Not Like Those Evangelicals’”

The irony is that the organization was founded by Billy Graham, a legendary “evangelist”. Rolling in his grave, I expect.


6 posted on 12/25/2019 7:59:58 AM PST by MayflowerMadam
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This one needs some basic training

Humility is the foundation of all the other virtues hence, in the soul in which this virtue does not exist there cannot be any other virtue except in mere appearance.

Saint Augustine


7 posted on 12/25/2019 8:00:55 AM PST by HangnJudge (Kipling was right about Humanity)
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where is the ‘Well, Bye” meme?


8 posted on 12/25/2019 8:01:44 AM PST by jimjohn (2020: The year the Republicans can and should take back the black vote.)
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In the article, it's “we’re not like THOSE evangelicals,” meaning that the CT crew are Evangelicals, just a different subset of the Evangelical community from others. It helps if one reads more than just the headline.

The author has a valid, if obvious, point - the difference of opinion reflects class differences among Evangelicals - but what about his conclusion:

Are we witnessing the implosion of evangelicalism? Evangelicalism as we know it has its roots in the eighteenth century but really took shape in the nineteenth, so I guess two centuries or so was a pretty good run. My sense is that evangelicalism has always been more sociologically than theologically determined, and I suppose it’s appropriate that sociology is now the engine of its demolition.

11 posted on 12/25/2019 8:12:39 AM PST by x
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Typical violent Democrat snob.


12 posted on 12/25/2019 8:13:15 AM PST by stinkerpot65 (Global warming is a Marxist lie.)
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I can’t divine Mr. Galli’s fantasies, but US evangelicals live physically, like it or not, in a world with a secular government. History proves abundantly that human perfection is not an option, even when choosing Presidents and evangelical editors). Since the Republican side has no viable choice except Trump, to undermine Trump is to endorse his Democrat rivals. Democrats of late have moved beyond first trimester abortion, to legalizing/normalizing post-natal infanticide. Mr. Galli might be too stupid to realize it, but promoting socialism, serfdom, and infanticide because he doesn’t like Mr. Trump’s bad language is a devil’s bargain.


14 posted on 12/25/2019 8:28:14 AM PST by Chewbarkah
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Someone needs to re-read Galatians. I am not sure they understand what the Gospel is.


18 posted on 12/25/2019 8:36:35 AM PST by Salvavida
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Jesus Christ didn’t condemn the adultress, but he DID tell her to go and sin no more. He didn’t deny that she was a sinner, for he told her to sin no more.

(sometimes I wonder if he maybe wrote this in the dirt in eyeshot of her accusers: “where is the other half that was supposedly caught in the act of the accused transgression?” Maybe he even wrote his name down.)

Peter, after telling convicted hearts how to be converted, said “save yourselves from this untoward generation.”

Untoward what. The faith and obedience to the true and living God.

The gospel is no good if sin is not condemned.


22 posted on 12/25/2019 8:45:15 AM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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class tensions between the information-economy-manipulators-of-symbolic-knowledge new class on the one hand and the entrepreneurial-class/working-class

That sounds like the 21st century reiteration of the Gnostics vs. the orthodox. The more things change...

23 posted on 12/25/2019 8:53:25 AM PST by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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Hey, Galli and other elite liberals,no matter how much you cry, moan and bitch, Trump will still be your president today and tomorrow.


25 posted on 12/25/2019 9:02:27 AM PST by Grampa Dave (Lincoln: "The Founders did not make America racist or slaver. They inheritered it, that way!")
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30 posted on 12/25/2019 1:02:32 PM PST by Bon mots
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It is a good commentary on Galli’s editorial. But I hear Galli echoing someone else:

“9. He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and treated others with contempt: 10. “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11. The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. 12. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’...”

The way it sounds to me, Galli is mimicking the Pharisee in Luke 18.


31 posted on 12/25/2019 1:09:25 PM PST by Cincinnatus.45-70 (What do DemocRats enjoy more than a truckload of dead babies? Unloading them with a pitchfork!)
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This is how they portray Trump voters.

They seem to have forgotten Mary and Joseph being blue collar; that the Pharisees perceived that Peter and the Apostles were uneducated; and St. Paul's writing in 1 Corinthians :

26Brothers, consider the time of your calling: Not many of you were wise by human standards; not many were powerful; not many were of noble birth. 27But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong. 28He chose the lowly and despised things of the world, and the things that are not, to nullify the things that are,29so that no one may boast in His presence.

32 posted on 12/26/2019 7:15:14 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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