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AM I NOT HERE, WHO IS YOUR MOTHER? ARE YOU NOT UNDER MY PROTECTION? AM I NOT YOUR HEALTH? ARE YOU NOT HAPPILY WITHIN MY FOLD? WHAT ELSE DO YOU WISH? DO NOT GRIEVE NOR BE DISTURBED BY ANYTHING.

Posted on 12/12/2019 9:51:22 PM PST by fatima

AM I NOT HERE, WHO IS YOUR MOTHER? ARE YOU NOT UNDER MY PROTECTION? AM I NOT YOUR HEALTH? ARE YOU NOT HAPPILY WITHIN MY FOLD? WHAT ELSE DO YOU WISH? DO NOT GRIEVE NOR BE DISTURBED BY ANYTHING. After hearing Juan Diego’s chat, the Most Holy Virgin answered: “Hear me and understand well, my son the least, that nothing should frighten or grieve you. Let not your heart be disturbed. Do not fear that sickness, nor any other sickness or anguish. Am I not here, who is your Mother? Are you not under my protection? Am I not your health? Are you not happily within my fold? What else do you wish? Do not grieve nor be disturbed by anything. Do not be afflicted by the illness of your uncle, who will not die now of it. be assured that he is now cured.” (And then his uncle was cured, as it was later learned.)

http://www.sancta.org/nican.html


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1 posted on 12/12/2019 9:51:22 PM PST by fatima
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To: fatima

Ok, why don’t you take a break now.


2 posted on 12/12/2019 9:51:57 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: fatima

I still want to know about NASA and that painting.


3 posted on 12/12/2019 9:53:10 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: fatima

http://www.sancta.org/nican.html


4 posted on 12/12/2019 9:53:15 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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Is this connected with the Miracle of Fatima, Oct. 13, 1917?
Our Lady was said to have appeared to three shepherd children in Fatima, Portugal.

We, at St. Cecilia grade school, were given brown scapulas to wear around our necks. Scapula = A simple medallion made of wool.

Or, I could be way off.


5 posted on 12/12/2019 9:59:41 PM PST by lee martell
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To: DouglasKC

Will have to research that.Give me more info..Thanks.


6 posted on 12/12/2019 10:01:24 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: lee martell

Guadalupe happened way before Fatima.((((Hugs))))


7 posted on 12/12/2019 10:03:07 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: fatima

Did it? I’m not familiar with Guadalupe.
What happened? You can refer me to a book or historical fact. I don’t expect you to do all the digging for me.


8 posted on 12/12/2019 10:07:22 PM PST by lee martell
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To: DouglasKC

God doesn’t need magic tricks and fancy gimmicks to have us believe in him.

He can do it if He wants to. He’s God.

If one doesn’t feel God in his heart and see Him all around us then God could make fire hydrants get up and start walking and singing “That’s Life” and it wouldn’t change that person a bit.

I don’t need to put my fingers in Jesus’ hands.

I’m good with the proof all around me.

Have a good night man.


9 posted on 12/12/2019 10:07:50 PM PST by dp0622 (Radicals, racists Don't point fingers at me I'm a small town white boy Just tryin' to make ends meet)
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To: lee martell
Send me a freepmail,getting old might forget.I will post research here.
10 posted on 12/12/2019 10:10:08 PM PST by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: lee martell

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Guadalupe

this show get you started...


11 posted on 12/12/2019 10:20:08 PM PST by moonhawk (Excuse me...Did you just presume the gender of the Earth Deity?)
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To: fatima

I got it from another poster. Thank you though.


12 posted on 12/12/2019 10:23:25 PM PST by lee martell
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To: moonhawk

Thanks for the info.


13 posted on 12/12/2019 10:23:54 PM PST by lee martell
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To: fatima
“For by grace you have been saved through faith.” - Ephesians 2:8

So if our salvation comes via faith (in Christ), how do we come to faith?:

“So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.” - Romans 10:17

Not by magical talismans, not by supernatural manifestations from unknown sources, but via extraordinary grace extended to us by God as a result of our faith in Jesus and our acceptance of his free gift of salvation, having paid the debt for our sin on the cross. And we come to that faith by hearing the word of God, his gospel message preached according to scripture.

Putting our faith in dubious supernatural manifestations is just asking to be deceived. During Jesus ministry on Earth, he rebuked those who sought signs and wonders, and we are warned that false prophets and false signs and wonders will come, and that we must exercise discernment by testing them against scripture to see if they are of God.

14 posted on 12/12/2019 10:28:19 PM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.`)
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Satan is the great imitator- imitating miracles to deceive the masses- of course there are no true supernatural miracles performed today, ie the dead arising on command, restoring lost limbs with nothing but a word- etc- but Satan still does imitate things like visions, signs etc- to deceive the masses-


15 posted on 12/12/2019 11:26:20 PM PST by Bob434
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To: noiseman

And yet He also told the Jews, “If you don’t believe my words, at least believe the Miracles, that you may know that I am in the Father and the Father is in me.”


16 posted on 12/13/2019 12:24:57 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change with out notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
The phenomenon of Guadalupe is seemingly a legit miracle that has withstood both the test of time and intense scrutiny by modern science.
17 posted on 12/13/2019 1:58:53 AM PST by rdcbn ( Referentia)
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To: fatima

Stop screaming at me.


18 posted on 12/13/2019 2:24:11 AM PST by DeplorableGirl
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To: fatima
Most holy virgin?

Even after she and Joseph had other cheeruns? Wow!

The son of the CEO of creation has your adoption papers on his desk. Stop asking the receptionist to fill them out for you!

19 posted on 12/13/2019 2:50:00 AM PST by rawcatslyentist (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfuAJcWl6DE Kill a Commie for Mommie)
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To: fatima

Ouch that hurt


20 posted on 12/13/2019 2:52:12 AM PST by ronnie raygun (nic dip.com)
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