Posted on 11/06/2019 3:46:17 PM PST by LiberalismDestroys
His Excellency Dr. Mohammad Abdulkarim Al-Issa, secretary-general of the Muslim World League and president of the International Organization for Muslim Scholars, met with the First Presidency on Tuesday, Nov. 5.Dr. Al-Issa also met with Elder David A. Bednar of the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles and toured Welfare Square.
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Maybe it belongs down in Mexico.
Here are some sources:
https://4gospel.com/answers-to-my-mormon-friends/
https://www.4mormon.org/lds-questions-dvd-part-1-lds-questions-answered/
Mormon : “Journal of Discourses”,Vol. II, p. 40
Mormon Literature “Pearl of Great Price”, Abraham 3: 9, 16
“The saddest item here is that Mormonism is a works-based religion, full of mostly extremely nice, kind, clean, hardworking, moral people who think that they will get to heaven by working for it.”
Wonderful people. They will attempt to kidnap your stepdaughters, brainwash them into thinking that they should be in their harem when they are given their own planet, and have the nerve to try to borrow your computer to download porno of girls looking like them for a “preview” so that their current wife inventory of one ugly loser won’t find out.
I don’t have time to buy books about Mormonism and read them, or watch videos about them.
But you have made some simple declarations about Mormon beliefs on this public website. So, respectfully, please answer my questions in your own words, and from your own understanding.
“Mormonism is a works-based religion”
“that they will get to heaven by working for it.”
Being LDS I have not found what you say to be true.
We teach that we are rewarded in heaven for our works,
AFTER WE GET THERE, by the gift of the Atonement, which Jesus paid the price for.
Our reward is basically what job we have shown ourselves ready, willing, and able to do.
Yes. Thank you. NEAR Kolob.
I do not know where in the sky the star Kolob lives.
N.
I quote sources. I have given them.
So: Kolob is a star, not a planet, right?
Who do the Mormons believe created the Star Kolob?
You need to do better than just sticking your head up, and then retreating into ‘sources’.
(Though it does confuse me that not even the one apparent Mormon here has answered my questions, either...)
“Wonderful people. They will attempt to kidnap your stepdaughters, brainwash them into thinking that they should be in their harem when they are given their own planet, and have the nerve to try to borrow your computer to download porno of girls looking like them for a “preview” so that their current wife inventory of one ugly loser won’t find out.”
Holy Cr@p! Way more than `never take a Mormon fishing because he’ll drink all your beer’.
But the history is undeniable: JS had not only multiple wives but wives young as 14 and wives already married to other men.
And his successor wasn’t known as “Bring’em Young” for nothing.
These nominally Christian leaders trying to make nice with Muslims are not serving their followers but are being duped by the Muslim leader.
Even a cursory delve into the history of Islam will inform the reader that there is no making nice with Islam.
Islam exist solely to be the one world religion. Islam does not willing coexist with other religions. It will sit back and build its numbers until it has sufficient numbers to intimidate the other more numerous but peaceful religious community.
Britain, France and Germany can all attest to this fact if they had the political will to do so.
You need to do better than just sticking your head up, and then retreating into ‘sources’.
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I’m not LDS, but have lived here over 20 years. They do indeed have a works based religion. It begins with LDS members having to be “worthy” to enter into one of their Temples for particular endowment ceremonies. There are a list of rules they must adhere to be considered a “Temple Worthy.” I’ll guarentee this fosters pride and snobbery.
Mormons do a lot of missionary work to spread the gospel.
It is hard to teach someone about Christianity if you do not talk to them.
So yes, talking is good.
If you want to know Joseph Smith’s real view of God, which is contrary to both the BoM and the Bible, you need to read the King Follett Discourse. Its available online.
Bookmark
“Bring’em Young”
I ain’t forgetting that one!
You encounter ‘pride and snobbery’ in any religion - many people are not good representatives of the religions that they ostensibly espouse; they often allow their egos and fears to become involved and to confuse things.
I was interested in understanding more about the actual *theology* of Mormonism - especially from the people who consistently disparage - or argue FOR it - on this forum.
I have no dog in the fight - I’m not a member of any organized religion - (not a member of any ‘Informed Community’, either - :-) and don’t subscribe to any particular creed.
I’m just very interested in religious beliefs. And it seems to me that if people are going to fight for or against any religion, they should be able to explain their reasons logically, and in their own words, from an informed standpoint.
“Mormon : “Journal of Discourses”,Vol. II, p. 40”
Please let me know the title of the article in the : “Journal of Discourses”.
My digital copy does not have page numbers and I do not see anything on digital page 40 that goes with your post.
Thank you.
P.S. Your reply or your lack of one will teach us a lot about how careful you are about references) fred
“Well, who do they believe made the ‘man’ from Kolob?”
“You need to do better than just sticking your head up, and then retreating into ‘sources’.
(Though it does confuse me that not even the one apparent
Mormon here has answered my questions, either...”
Very well. Here it is, from “The Pearl of Great Price, Abraham 3:
President Joseph Fielding Smith (1876–1972) wrote: “The Lord made known to him the following facts: That Kolob is the first creation, and is nearest to the celestial, or the residence of God. It is the first in government, the last pertaining to the measurement of time. This measurement is according to celestial time. One day in Kolob is equal to a thousand years according to the measurement of this earth, which by the Egyptians was called Jah-oh-eh. Oliblish, so called by the Egyptians, stands next to Kolob in the grand governing creation near the celestial, or place where God resides. This great star is also a governing star and is equal to Kolob in its revolutions and in its measuring of time. Other grand governing stars were also revealed to Abraham” (Man: His Origin and Destiny [1954], 461.)
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