Posted on 10/30/2019 10:56:48 AM PDT by Salvation
I am pleased to announce that a Solemn Pontifical High Mass in the Extraordinary Form will be offered by Archbishop Salvatore Cordileone of San Francisco on Saturday, November 16, 2019, at 10:00 AM at the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception in Washington, D.C. Further details appear at the bottom of the post, but first allow me to provide some background.
There is great diversity in the Catholic world. I am sometimes amazed when I look out at my congregation or see pictures of other parishes; we look like some meeting of the United Nations. Catholics truly come from everywhere.
One of the challenges of such diversity is finding opportunities to reach across cultures and ethnicities to experience greater unity.One example of this occurs in December of each year. Within the space of one week there are two great Marian feasts: Our Lady of the Immaculate Conception on December 8th and Our Lady of Guadalupe on December 12th. December 8th is celebrated as a solemnity and is a holy day of obligation; under the title of “The Immaculate Conception,” Our Blessed Mother is the Patroness of the United States. December 12th is particularly important to Hispanic Catholics, especially those from Mexico. Somos Guadalupanos!
Bringing these feasts together in our hearts and recognizing their importance is a way to greater unity. Whatever our background, we all love Our Lady; she unites us as does any good mother.
This reaching across ethnic distinctions is at the heart of a pastoral outreach by Archbishop Cordileone and the Archdiocese of San Francisco. Seeking to better unite Catholics of Central and South America with those of North America, the Archbishop first commissioned a new musical setting of the Mass, to be called The Mass of the Americas. He approached composer Frank La Rocca, who commented, “The commission I was given by Archbishop Cordileone—to take beloved Mexican devotional songs and to weave them into a ‘high church’ classical Mass—was challenging and unlike anything I had been asked to do before.” La Rocca also spoke of how deeply satisfying the six-month effort was [*].
Archbishop Cordileone speaks of Mary as the great evangelizer and unifier. He notes that her appearance at Tepeyac was the reason for the unity of Mexican people in faith and that both the Mexican and Spanish peoples were able to recognize the mother of God: “A new Christian people is formed from the two, a mestizo people; a new Christian civilization is born from the union brought about by her who is venerated as la Morenita and la Inmaculada. How blessed is Mexico, for truly God has not done this for any other nation!” the archbishop said [**].
Now the good Archbishop seeks to take this unifying message to a new levelby celebrating the Mass of the Americas in the Extraordinary Form here in in Washington, D.C. I am privileged to be able to serve as Deacon of the Throne at that Mass. While the Ordinary Form setting features texts in Spanish, Latin, English, and Nahuatl (the language in which Our Lady of Guadalupe spoke to St. Juan Diego), the music has been adjusted to suit the norms of the Extraordinary Form and is fully in Latin.
In this way, Catholics dedicated to the beautiful traditions of the Extraordinary Form and Catholics from the Americas devoted to Our Lady of Guadalupe can worship the Lord together. Our Lady is indeed the great unifier.
I am grateful to Archbishop Cordileone for this outreach. In times of deep division in the Church, he points to Our Lady, who so beautifully opened doors in Mexico in the 16thcentury and still seeks to unite us now. May Our Lady be honored by this outreach as we beautifully and solemnly worship her Son and Our Lord.
The Mass will be followed by an afternoon conference, beginning at 2:00 PM, cosponsored by the Benedict XVI Institute and The Catholic University of America’s Rome School of Music, Drama, and Art.
There is no charge to attend the Mass or conference, but registration is requested.
A Facebook event has been created for this Mass. You may also download the PDF flyer to help spread the word about this Mass and conference.
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Within the space of one week there are two great Marian feasts:Who are these women I wonder?
Our Lady of the Immaculate Conception on December 8th and
Our Lady of Guadalupe on December 12th.
December 8th is celebrated as a solemnity and is a holy day of obligation; under the title of
“The Immaculate Conception,”
Our Blessed Mother is the Patroness of the United States.
December 12th is particularly important to Hispanic Catholics, especially those from Mexico. Somos Guadalupanos!
I did a word search looking for the Name above All Names, Jesus, in the article.
Actually the search did the whole thread.
I found our Lord Jesus' name 3 times.
All three were in my post...
It's interesting that this so 'important' mass doesn't seem to have anything to do with Jesus, just the Catholic Mary and two "Ladies."
I've been noticing for a few years now that apparently the Catholic Mary is the main figure in Catholicism.
Catholicism is now what Paul referred to as an ‘other religion’.
I forgot a rule of the Religion Forum.
That if a foreign word or phrase is used, it must be translated.
So I looked for a translation of Somos Guadalupanos.
Somos means “we are.”
The translation site could not find a translation for “Guadalupanos.”
So it apparently isn’t Spanish.
It must be a uniquely Catholic word.
Sorry Religion Moderator (in case you are watching,) I did the best I could.
This is the only anti-Catholicism I've ever encountered. The entire Middle East was more tolerant of Catholics that these folks.
Do they really call themselves Christians with this anti-Catholic vitriol?
PEACE be with them.
I am not morally certain either way. I think it is hypothetically possible that his unstable, erratic behavior is caused by unresolved neuro-psychiatric issues.
I pray for him every day. Really everyone should.
Yes, it seems so.
Everything is coming together for the fulfilling of prophecy.
One World Religion, merging of many denominations with a charismatic leader popping up.
Close to a cashless society.
Peace and Safety is on it’s way...
Anti-Catholic vitriol?
No vitriol, if you think so please point to a reply with such.
Anti-Catholicism, yes.
Anti-Catholic is not here, and if you see it please report it to the Religion Moderator, as such would be personal and not allowed.
This is an open thread, and as such, the rules for open threads have been posted on this thread after Salvation was kind enough to give a link to the guidelines for posting in the RF.
The many errors must be pointed out and hopefully taken to heart.
I find it odd that this mass coming up does not seem to have anything to do with Jesus, but just the Catholic version of the Biblical Mary.
The religion of Catholicism is not Christianity. The many pagan add-ons removed the veneer. Did it all start being exposed with pope Gregory and his institutionalizing of the mythical purgatory? No, it began way before that. The body of believers in Rome had men, leaders who sought power, and by adding pagan rites and rituals they got their power.
So the present pope could possibly not be a Catholic?
I believe for some time there have been those of the Catholic faith that have commented that Francis is not a Catholic.
And there are so many threads bad mouthing your pope.
This seems strange to me as over the years it has been said by Catholics here at FR that we must be in subjection to the pope and that he is the Vicar of Christ, Christ’s representative here on earth.
He is picked with the Holy Spirit’s guidance apparently.
I believe it was all done “legally” according to rules of Catholicism.
Maybe he does have some psychological problems in which case I would think Catholics would want him removed.
I know some posting in the RF feel that way; and that he is illegitimate etc.
We non Catholics would not allow someone with so many un Biblical issues to stay in a leadership position.
Man was created to praise, reverence, and serve God our Lord and in this way to save his soul. The other things on Earth were created for man’s use, to help him reach the end for which he was created.
Saint Ignatius
Your quote likens obtaining eternal life by infusion, like an IV drip, salvation by drips and drops as the adherent dutifully follows the sacramental trail into purgatory for last stage purification. The True Gospel salvation has God imputing the Righteousness of Christ to the born again BELIEVER ( not striver, believer). That is the tremendous, unfathomable Grace of God, a gift so great ONLY God can do it which gift you cannot earn and the retention of which is beyond human capacity.
It’s an unprecedented situation we’re in -— although the Catholic Church has had some terrible crises caused or exacerbated by bad popes in the past, this is the first and only time we have had a pope who is actually ideologically opposed to the Faith and Morals of the Church, as understood by all his predecessors -— even the knaves and fools among them.
There is serious question whether Pope Benedict abdicated lawfully, meaning fully and without coercion. There is also serious question whether the conclave that elected Pope Francis was lawful, in account of politicking prior to and concurrent with the voting. Then there’s the separate and serious question whether Francis has lawfully and formally forfeited the papacy on account of heresy.
So you’ll see Catholics, here at FR and elsewhere, worrying out loud about these controversies. Some eminent theologians have observed that the Church is already split, de facto if not de jure.
You pray for people, right? Do you?
Happy All Saints tomorrow!
That’s a loaded question the answer to which is evident.
Do you agree with my post number 15?
“...this is the first and only time we have had a pope who is actually ideologically opposed to the Faith and Morals of the Church”
That’s all part of the process to a One World Government and a One World Religion as prophesied in the Bible.
“Some eminent theologians have observed that the Church [I accept that the ‘Church’ means the Catholic Church] is already split”
Yes, and it will become more split as time goes on.
Many will continue to leave Catholicism and go to basic Biblical Christianity.
At least after the Reformation, the Evangelicals and even the Pentecostals did not dump Baptism and Scripture, which means that they are still, to that extent, in the Church. Thank God.
And the answer to that would be relevant to your question of whether I agree with what you wrote in #15: I believe we, who are members of His Body, are continually interceding for each other, with, through, and in Jesus Christ, our Intercessor. Which is what is meant by the Communion of Saints.
So please answer my question about do you pray --- I asked first! --- and then tell me, do you believe in the Communion of Saints?
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A Tagline to the wise is sufficient.
***I’m much more afraid that many will leave the Catholic Church to become either outright, on-the-nose Neopagans, or “Nones.”***
Of course you are.
Unloosed from the bonds of oppressive/controlling Catholicism it will be easier for their eyes to be opened and hopefully join basic Christianity and the real body of Christ, His church.
That being defined as every believer in Jesus that has gone through the simple process of becoming a Christian.
As many ex-Catholic posters here have testified.
***At least after the Reformation, the Evangelicals and even the Pentecostals did not dump Baptism and Scripture***
Why should they? Non-Catholic Christians have existed ever since Jesus walked the earth in the Flesh.
They grew in numbers and of course always believed in Baptism and Scripture.
It’s a false premise that all Christians from day one of the birth of Christianity were Catholic (part of what is now present day Catholicism) and that Jesus was a Catholic (stated previously by a Catholic that used to post at FR.)
Historically Catholicism started in the 2nd or 3rd century.
This of course has been debated quite a lot here at FR.
*** which means that they are still, to that extent, in the Church. Thank God.
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That’s another false premise if by “Church” if you mean the Catholic Church.
In the reformation, the groups you describe as Evangelicals and Pentecostals, when they left Catholicism became part of the body of Christ, His church, which existed ever since day one of Christianity.
[They are NOT “still, to that extent, in the (Catholic) Church.” I’m sure they left it altogether to become Biblical Christians. Of which as I have stated there were many non-Catholic Christians already here since Jesus walked the earth] Sorry for repeating myself...
What makes them part of the church (body of Christ) inspired by Jesus back in the day that includes every born again Christian that has a personal relationship with Jesus.
Made up of members of virtually every Christian denomination, including, of course, Catholicism.
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