Posted on 10/23/2019 8:18:25 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
BTW - I have had Pentecostals tell me the baptism of the Holy Spirit is something that follows our salvation and is marked by speaking in tongues. Until then, I’ve been told, the Holy Spirit just visits me...but doesn’t “fill” me.
I refer you back to my post number 68.
But I didn’t tell you that, nor would I.
I commented because I had READ your post #68.
“So Mr Rogers, it appears you are saying that Pentacostalism is of the devil. Am I reading you correctly?”
I’m saying some is. If you claim for example, that Benny Hinn, for example, cannot be disagreed with because his ‘miracles’ prove he is a man of God, then you are off the deep end.
Same with Paula White.
When someone works miracles - supposedly - and conflicts with scripture, then they are doing the devil’s work.
Now, are you talking about this:
““We believe that entire sanctification is that act of God, subsequent to regeneration, by which believers are made free from original sin or depravity, and are brought into a state of entire devotement to God, unto the holy obedience of love made perfect. It is wrought by the baptism of the Holy Spirit, and comprehends in one experience the cleansing of the heart from sin, the abiding and indwelling experience of the Holy Spirit, empowering the believer to life and service.” (Manual of the Church of the Nazarene, 1968, p. 30 – 31).”
Maybe if you define what YOU mean, I can give a better answer.
Probably about even on that score. Both lead to a failure to obey, and therefore repercussions in lives of God’s people.
He is not doing so as the Pharisees (which was to justify their impenitence and not submitting to the Lord Jesus, nor is he denying Pentecostalism en toto after seeing only manifestly supernatural works of God (indeed, much of what is seen in Pentecostalism ought makes us ashamed);
However, i do think that often the rejection of the perpetuation of "sign gifts" is at least partly driven by a fear of losing control. It is hard to even conceive of a service and parts thereof lasting longer than their allotted time, let alone what 1 Co. 14 sets down as a model.
However, if there was not so much fakery in Pentecostalism esp. "O My children, the time is come to bless you more" prophets) then it would be more attractive to those who reject it due to such.
My stance was that I could not justify doctrinally cessationism even if everything in Pentecostalism was fake, since I found the arguments against perpetuation to be wanting.
Thanks for your thoughtful response.
I feel SO slighted...
Good luck.
His questions are of the, “Did GOD really say...” variety.
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