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Jesus' negativity merely reveals what is coming [Matthew 24]
Free Republic | 10/18/2019 | Jan_Sobieski

Posted on 10/18/2019 1:41:12 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski

Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.

Earlier today I saw the correspondence of an angry conservative who was tired of the negativity of other conservatives. He raged that all we do is continually point out the bad. He went on to accuse those who focus on the negative trends as cowards, treacherous, and treasonous...fat asses who sit on their couches and whine with no action. My first inclination was to ask, "Who are you calling treacherous?" "Real brave sitting behind your computer...and not to my face where you would certainly be challenged to back up your words." "I may be fat, but what do you expect me to do beyond writing, voting, fighting for truth, and paying taxes?"

However I think I understand my fellow conservative's problem. I can see why he is upset given the dire situation we are in as a nation. He is merely voicing his natural hope that we can stem the evil tide. In a sense, he is preaching (or yelling at) the choir. Many of us have served our country in war time, put our lives on the line for God and Country. We have lost jobs because of not going along with Gay Pride Month. We have been called haters, right wing extremists, and fundamentalists because we believe in God’s word and America's God Given constitution. By now, we are used to getting yelled at, so receiving a tongue lashing by our own is not unexpected. His problem is trying to be positive in negative times. He is looking for good in a time of evil.

Ecclesiastes 3:8 A time to love, a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.

The truth is we live in extremely negative times. Pointing out the negative (God awful) truth is fitting, realistic, and quite simply the truth! To be irrationally positive would be wrong. Historically, in desperate times like this, pointing out the negative was only bad for false prophets and lying politicians. They say, "peace! peace!" When there is no peace. How can make peace with enforced LGBTI indoctrination of our kids? Or the trafficking of baby body parts? Or forced socialistic atheism? Can we be positive when liberal politicians are discussing forced confiscation of our weapons and nuking those who resist? How can we positively spin a current government coup at the highest levels? Or be positive while watching the slow motion French Revolution of America right before our eyes? The positivists call us traitors?!? We are not liars.

1 Thessalonians 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

Jesus Christ had nothing positive to say about the wicked and perverted generation He lived in. He did not give them a self help sermon, or a feel good message on positivity, or discuss the laws of attraction. Why? Judgment and destruction were coming in a few short years! God's own nation, Israel, who rejected their God was about to be destroyed in God's judgment! Today in America we are in a similar situation. America has forsaken God and our system has been weaponized against those of us who disagree. In light of our impending cultural collapse and financial doom, should we be positive? Shouldn't we be saying, "Come quickly Lord Jesus!?" I cannot cheer while watching the Fowler set the trap for us and our children.

Yes, Trump is the best President of our lifetime. But where are the arrests? Where are the orange jumpsuits and chains? Where are the perp walks and mugshots? Where are they? The fact is that whoever is actually in charge of our country will not allow Trump to get this done. This is America's hour of darkness. The hour of the power of evil...whoever they are. To not see this is ignorance! This is not the time for positivity.

If your theology is wrong, you will not do well in the coming judgment. No one but Bible Believers are going to see and hear. If you are a Kingdom Now, or Dominionist Calvinist (or Roman Catholic) person who thinks that Christians are going to rise up and take over the world for Christ, you will be disappointed. What will you do when medieval, or middle eastern style, Christian persecution begins? What will you do when Christians are forced to either take the "Mark of the Beast" or die staying true to Christ?

Revelation 14:9 Then another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, "If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives a mark on his forehead or on his hand, 10 he also will drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is mixed in full strength in the cup of His anger; and he will be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. 11"And the smoke of their torment goes up forever and ever; they have no rest day and night, those who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name." 12 Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.

True Christians are preparing themselves and their kids for that day. Are you cheer leading for positivity? Better wake up, because this country is headed for hell. The only true hope we have is the return of Jesus Christ to fight for us (hopefully the Rapture). We are in the days of Noah...the days of Sodom...the last days. Just as God's nation Israel, has been reestablished for the final judgment, America and the world are queued up. Now is not the time for positivity, because the same demonic spirits working in people that kill our babies and euthanize our old people...are coming after us. Trump is trying to stop them...but he has little power against these forces. And they know it. Do you?


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Feel free to disagree with me...
1 posted on 10/18/2019 1:41:12 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski
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To: Jan_Sobieski

How is it a minority of mentally challenged, unarmed, weaklings are able to walk all over a nation of armed patriots?


2 posted on 10/18/2019 1:50:08 PM PDT by coaster123 (Distrust everyone under fifty.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Earlier today I saw the correspondence of an angry conservative who was tired of the negativity of other conservatives. He raged that all we do is continually point out the bad. He went on to accuse those who focus on the negative trends as cowards, treacherous, and treasonous...fat asses who sit on their couches and whine with no action. My first inclination was to ask, “Who are you calling treacherous?” “Real brave sitting behind your computer...and not to my face where you would certainly be challenged to back up your words.” “I may be fat, but what do you expect me to do beyond writing, voting, fighting for truth, and paying taxes?”

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That was a heck of a thread! A real fun ride! Those who missed it, missed a a fun time. That poster must have gone off his meds.

Jim himself gave they guy a break and zotted the 150 plus replies thread.


3 posted on 10/18/2019 1:50:09 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: Jan_Sobieski

You scare me...

Because I know you’re right.


4 posted on 10/18/2019 1:50:30 PM PDT by Professional
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Some great points in there.


5 posted on 10/18/2019 1:52:25 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Jan_Sobieski

“Matthew 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.”

I don’t even pretend to understand that...


6 posted on 10/18/2019 1:57:00 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

“The fact is that whoever is actually in charge of our country will not allow Trump to get this done.”

Mirror time, citizens.


7 posted on 10/18/2019 1:57:25 PM PDT by coaster123 (Distrust everyone under fifty.)
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To: coaster123

I used to think like you. However seeing the Great Britain, Australia, New Zealand lay down their arms on command has changed my views. South Africa too!


8 posted on 10/18/2019 1:58:02 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
If you are a [...] Roman Catholic [...] person who thinks that Christians are going to rise up and take over the world for Christ ...

... then you should reread the Catechism, Part 1, Section 2, Chapter 2, Article 7, especially #675:

Before Christ's second coming the Church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many believers. The persecution that accompanies her pilgrimage on earth will unveil the "mystery of iniquity" in the form of a religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth. The supreme religious deception is that of the Antichrist, a pseudo-messianism by which man glorifies himself in place of God and of his Messiah come in the flesh.

and #677:

The Church will enter the glory of the kingdom only through this final Passover, when she will follow her Lord in his death and Resurrection. The kingdom will be fulfilled, then, not by a historic triumph of the Church through a progressive ascendancy, but only by God's victory over the final unleashing of evil, which will cause his Bride to come down from heaven. God's triumph over the revolt of evil will take the form of the Last Judgment after the final cosmic upheaval of this passing world.

9 posted on 10/18/2019 1:58:29 PM PDT by Campion ((marine dad))
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To: Jan_Sobieski; Awgie; little jeremiah

Dude, you’ve been ANALyzed.
Enjoy your day of “Forum Fame”, you done good.


10 posted on 10/18/2019 1:59:15 PM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Professional

Don’t be scared get on your knees and start praying in the mornings and I assure you that as soon as you finish your prayers you’ll start feeling God’s peace! I know many a times I’ve gone off the deep end too because of frustration, fury, but most of all scared, scared out of my wits for my grandchildren will pay the ultimate the price of socialism. But I know once I get off my knees in prayer God rains down peace on my soul . I don’t know how people can manage without God in their lives I simply don’t now!


11 posted on 10/18/2019 2:01:28 PM PDT by RoseofTexas
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To: Jan_Sobieski
“I used to think like you.”

I didn’t state a belief. I asked a question.

That the question was ignored answers the question. Get it?

12 posted on 10/18/2019 2:05:36 PM PDT by coaster123 (Distrust everyone under fifty.)
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To: coaster123
Sure, I understand your question but cannot answer.

I am not sure, but I think their key is to force the local police to do their bidding. Like Lenin said, "the local police must be crushed"
13 posted on 10/18/2019 2:09:38 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

People will be happy when President Trump is easily re-elected so till then relax.


14 posted on 10/18/2019 2:12:50 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Jan_Sobieski

You certainly are the exact opposite of your illustrious namesake. If he had your attitude, the entire continent of Europe would have been mohammedan since the fall of Vienna.


15 posted on 10/18/2019 2:17:40 PM PDT by little jeremiah (new tagline in the pipeline)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Thank you, I had fun replying.


16 posted on 10/18/2019 2:18:51 PM PDT by little jeremiah (new tagline in the pipeline)
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To: RoseofTexas

I see a malevolent God. The arguments are well known.

If you take solace in prayer then you make the world a better place, you do. Thanks.


17 posted on 10/18/2019 2:19:35 PM PDT by coaster123 (Distrust everyone under fifty.)
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...12 “Here is the perseverance of the saints who keep the commandments of God and their faith in Jesus.”

I believe there will be remnants of all Christian denominations act as Saints in this time.

Common men will be trivialized with his own interpretations of doctrine, one can be led astray or to peace. However, the test will be in the heart of the soul.


18 posted on 10/18/2019 2:21:38 PM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Now is not the time for positivity.

Sure it is. Keep on the sunny side. In your patience possess ye your souls. It's the way to go up... the Way of the Patriarchs. Highway 60 (GO), literally. Good job, Job!

Matthew 24

10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.

If your theology is wrong, you will not do well in the coming judgment.

Theology wonks hit hardest. Meanwhile, Jesus is out healing people. No wonder he had to go directly to the people outside of the established order. With all the rules, regulations, administrative costs and lawyers, only the system benefits. The regular folks saw what he was all about and caught on quickly that he was the only doc in town. No competition.

Smaller government... greater personal responsibity... a can-do spirit burning the midnight oil to get 'r done, in order to cut out the dead weight and simplify. Fresh air and sunshine and all that.

Those dependent upon the system would do anything to get a guy like that with that kind of messge off of center stage.

Living parable:

President Trump is leading the way to real change, which is the maverick solution for business, the pattern to follow (emulate). Those gunning for the exits are the Once-Hired-Always-Hired union and government types eyeing the clock at 1PM on a Friday afternoon.

All Jesus has to do is show up on a Friday at 5 o'clock to see who is still at work. No crowds, and really easy for him to find a parking spot.

But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.

The Messiah is the last guy to be fixated on a clock. He's too busy loving what he does: caring for people with all of his heart, mind, and soul. <--- "Follow me."

Not complicated. It's life from the dead.

Buy American flags before the big rush.

19 posted on 10/18/2019 2:47:10 PM PDT by Ezekiel (The pun is mightier than the s-word. Goy to the World!)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

Just one little point, “rapture” is not biblical.


20 posted on 10/18/2019 2:56:28 PM PDT by exnavy (american by birth and choice, I love this country!)
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