Catholicism made me Protestant

First Things ^ | 9/11/2019 | Onsi A. Kamel

[Chainmail]

Ever considered the possibility that the Devil is using men’s minds - and their vanity - to distort and misapply scripture?

[rollo tomasi]

Not an argument. How is Matthew 10 referring to Jacobs' Trouble?

Is Charles Spurgeon committing a grave sin when he comments Matthew 10:22 by stating:

Enduring to the end

We must not enter the work of the ministry without counting the cost.

I.Perseverance is the badge of the saint.

1.It is the Scriptural mark.

2.Analogy shows us that it is perseverance which must mark the Christian. The winner in the race.

3.The common-sense judgment of mankind tells us, that those who merely begin and do not hold out, will not be saved.

II.Perseverance is therefore the target of all our spiritual enemies.

1.The world.

2.The flesh.

3.It will try our perseverance in service, in suffering, in steadfastness, in doctrine.

III.Perseverance is the glory of Christ.

IV.Perseverance should be the great care of every Christian.

[ZinGirl]

Thank you, boatbums. Well said.

[Gamecock]

Are you saying our good works aren’t as impressive as we think they are?

[Gamecock]

I chatted with him over a year ago, but since then silence.

[2nd amendment mama]

You are still a Catholic. The marks of Baptism and Confirmation are on your soul.

Since you say that I'm still a Catholic since I was baptized and made my Confirmation as a child, can I then post on Catholic Caucus threads?

[Elsie]

YEA!!!

Another C vs P catfight to watch!

[Elsie]

Someone help me out here and provide me with where in the Bible this is taught.

Would JESUS saying it be enough for you?

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John 6:25-40

²⁵ When they found him on the other side of the lake, they asked him, “Rabbi, when did you get here?”

²⁶ Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, you are looking for me, not because you saw the signs I performed but because you ate the loaves and had your fill. ²⁷ Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For on him God the Father has placed his seal of approval.”

²⁸ Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

²⁹ Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

³⁰ So they asked him, “What sign then will you give that we may see it and believe you? What will you do? ³¹ Our ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written: ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat.’^[c]”

³² Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven. ³³ For the bread of God is the bread that comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”

³⁴ “Sir,” they said, “always give us this bread.”

³⁵ Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. ³⁶ But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. ³⁷ All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. ³⁸ For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. ³⁹ And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. ⁴⁰ For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”

[Elsie]

Seriously, I'm only looking for a verse--one verse-- that clearly asserts we are justified by faith alone.

If we can do that; what shall we do with ""Call no man father" (It's in RED in my bible)

[Elsie]

"Catholicism made me a Protestant"

Mary made me a promise

[Elsie]

"Faith alone" is an invention by Martin Luther in the 15th century and is contrary to what the Bible teaches.

HMMMmmm…

Hebrews chapter 11

[Elsie]

NO one likes them darned Bereans but PROTS!!

[Mom MD]

Anyone who is washed in the Bloodof Christ and trusts in Him alone for salvation is a member of the One Holy catholic and Apostolic Church. Let me give you a hint. That Church is not based in Rome.

[Elsie]

Well, no: the gent spouting all of his reasons for leaving the Catholic faith is annoyingly arrogant.

Man; I hear ya!!

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"One indeed is the universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved, in which the priest himself is the sacrifice, Jesus Christ, whose body and blood are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the species of bread and wine; the bread (changed) into His body by the divine power of transubstantiation, and the wine into the blood, so that to accomplish the mystery of unity we ourselves receive from His (nature) what He Himself received from ours."

--Pope Innocent III and Lateran Council IV (A.D. 1215)

 

 

 "We are compelled in virtue of our faith to believe and maintain that there is only one holy Catholic Church, and that one is apostolic. This we firmly believe and profess without qualification. Outside this Church there is no salvation and no remission of sins, the Spouse in the Canticle proclaiming: 'One is my dove, my perfect one. One is she of her mother, the chosen of her that bore her' (Canticle of Canticles 6:8); which represents the one mystical body whose head is Christ, of Christ indeed, as God. And in this, 'one Lord, one faith, one baptism' (Ephesians 4:5). Certainly Noah had one ark at the time of the flood, prefiguring one Church which perfect to one cubit having one ruler and guide, namely Noah, outside of which we read all living things were destroyed… We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff."

--Pope Boniface VIII, Bull Unam sanctam (A.D. 1302)

[Elsie]

The good works required are keeping one self from sin,

HMMMmmm…

Just HOW does this work?

[Elsie]

By all means, don't read the Church Fathers

Now that you've mentioned it...

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“And I say to thee: Thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build my church and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it.”

 

PART ONE
THE PROFESSION OF FAITH

SECTION TWO
THE PROFESSION OF THE CHRISTIAN FAITH

CHAPTER TWO
I BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST, THE ONLY SON OF GOD

The Good News: God has sent his Son

422 'But when the time had fully come, God sent forth his Son, born of a woman, born under the law, to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons.'¹ This is 'the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God':'² God has visited his people. He has fulfilled the promise he made to Abraham and his descendants. He acted far beyond all expectation - he has sent his own 'beloved Son'.³

423 We believe and confess that Jesus of Nazareth, born a Jew of a daughter of Israel at Bethlehem at the time of King Herod the Great and the emperor Caesar Augustus, a carpenter by trade, who died crucified in Jerusalem under the procurator Pontius Pilate during the reign of the emperor Tiberius, is the eternal Son of God made man. He 'came from God',⁴ 'descended from heaven',⁵ and 'came in the flesh'.⁶ For 'the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father. . . And from his fullness have we all received, grace upon grace.'⁷

424 Moved by the grace of the Holy Spirit and drawn by the Father, we believe in Jesus and confess: 'You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.'⁸ On the rock of this faith confessed by St. Peter, Christ built his Church.⁹

[Elsie]

When ya can’t even get “Call no man father” right; waddya expect?

[Elsie]

David found that out after being His apple of God’s eye and was on his way of losing salvation unless he did a 180 fast.

Oh?

To what do you allude here?

I read where David wanted the JOY of his salvation back: not the actual salvation itself...

Psalm 51:12

Restore to me the joy of your salvation
and grant me a willing spirit, to sustain me.

[Elsie]

Ouch!

[Gamecock]

Jump on in, the water is fine!