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Hatred Converted Me To Catholicism
The Forge and the Anvil ^ | August 26, 2019 | Laramie Hirsch

Posted on 08/27/2019 5:04:08 PM PDT by ebb tide

Edited on 08/27/2019 5:58:29 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Whenever God does ANYTHING in this world, He is opposed and hated. Anything at all. If God makes His mark, here on Earth, either the Devil tries to wreck it, or Satan inspires his children to do so. This disdain for all creation and any constructive thing is an anti-Logos, pernicious spirit of ruin. This deep brand of hate is a religious way of thinking, and this feeling can be as shallow or go as deep as it wants. The hate I’m talking about can be a subtle inclination, or it can be an overt obsession. For example, you can be either a Soviet-minded Bolshevist, or you could simply be a vandalizer—you’re serving the Evil Cause in some capacity.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology
KEYWORDS: onetruechurch; orthodox1truechurch; popelds; protsnotatruechurch; provocativepolemics; roguechurchinvc; rouguechurchinrome; vaticancitynotrome; whinyprots
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To: softengine

AMEN!!!!

Ravi is about my all time favorite evangelist/Bible teacher.


21 posted on 08/27/2019 5:54:18 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: ebb tide

“whoever that was to be”


22 posted on 08/27/2019 5:56:51 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: ebb tide

I was prompted by all the hatred towards Trump and Trump supporters to do a vanity about hate, and how it is part of our heritage. Hate has helped us win battles against our enemies, so it is a vital part of who we are. The one who hates the most is the winner, so it becomes part of us. And how can we change that?

Anyone want to steal the idea?


23 posted on 08/27/2019 6:02:48 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Zionist Conspirator
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24 posted on 08/27/2019 6:04:26 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: KierkegaardMAN
“There are not one hundred people in the United States who hate The Catholic Church, but there are millions who hate what they wrongly perceive the Catholic Church to be.” ― Fulton J. Sheen

No doubt Fulton was wrong about a lot of things...

25 posted on 08/27/2019 6:04:41 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: firebrand
The one who hates the most is the winner, so it becomes part of us.

Was Satan a winner? He's in Hell.

26 posted on 08/27/2019 6:05:07 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ealgeone

Being hated is nothing special. Near everybody’s hated by someone. Arguably, Muslims are much hated on Freep. It’s what being the object of that hatred makes you into in response that matters.


27 posted on 08/27/2019 6:08:21 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)
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To: firebrand
Going to see Amir again in January. Are you jealous? 😁😂 When I meet him again, I will say hello to him for you. 👍😆
28 posted on 08/27/2019 6:08:27 PM PDT by Mark17 (Once saved, always saved. I am an Ephesians 2:8-9 kind of guy. It is a beautiful thing. Enjoy it)
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To: ebb tide; firebrand
The one who hates the most is the winner, so it becomes part of us. And how can we change that?

Hate properly directed is Godly.

Psalms 97.10 You that love the Lord, hate evil: the Lord preserveth the souls of his saints, he will deliver them out of the hand of the sinner.

There are similar verses throughout the Bible.

29 posted on 08/27/2019 6:21:38 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: Pontiac

No kidding?

Isn’t that why Satan is in Hell? Isn’t he evil?


30 posted on 08/27/2019 6:27:13 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide
Isn’t that why Satan is in Hell? Isn’t he evil?

Satan is evil but he is not in Hell.

Satan was cast down from Heaven and now resides on Earth.

Rev 12:7-10 And war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought with the dragon; and the dragon and his angels fought, but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them in heaven any longer. So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. Then I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, “Now salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren, who accused them before our God day and night, has been cast down.”

If Satan was in Hell how would he tempt Jesus on the mountain top?

Matthew 4:8-11 Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.” Then Jesus said to him, “Away with you, Satan ! For it is written, 'You shall worship the LORD your God, and Him only you shall serve.’ “ Then the devil left Him.”

Satan won’t be cast in to Hell until after the Second Coming. For now he and his fallen angels are free to influence the affairs of men. He couldn’t do that from Hell.

31 posted on 08/27/2019 6:44:11 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: infool7

Thank you!


32 posted on 08/27/2019 6:50:15 PM PDT by karnage
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To: Pontiac

Plenty of Catholics practicing their faith in California where I live. Very active folks.


33 posted on 08/27/2019 6:51:22 PM PDT by karnage
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To: karnage
Isn’t that why Satan is in Hell? Isn’t he evil?

By no means did I intend to say that the Church was dead.

Those that practice their faith in the open are brave souls. Those that fight evil in the open (protest abortion clinics) are soldiers of God.

But I don’t think that the followers of Satan have ever been stronger and the vicious attacks on the followers of Christ are in the open and brutal. Many followers of Christ have been cowed into silence.

Many attend church every Sunday and live in the shadows the rest of the week.

34 posted on 08/27/2019 6:59:07 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: Pontiac
If Satan was in Hell how would he tempt Jesus on the mountain top?

If the Blessed Mother is in Heaven, how could she appear at Fatima and Lourdes?

35 posted on 08/27/2019 7:02:35 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

Bump


36 posted on 08/27/2019 7:02:46 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: infool7; ealgeone
please remember to use common courtesy when posting and refrain from posting personal attacks...or religious bigotry

infool7, you mean posting articles that demean all those outside Catholicism as not being members of the one true church? Which in her arrogant self-proclaimed elitism relegates our fellowships as being unworthy of the proper title "church." and whose historical teaching damned all who would not submit to her?

You mean that religious bigotry?

37 posted on 08/27/2019 7:03:53 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: ebb tide; ConservativeMind; ealgeone; Gamecock; HarleyD; Luircin; imardmd1; aMorePerfectUnion; ...
So, when I left Protestantism (I was Southern Baptist*) and I was looking for the True Church—whomever that was to be—I knew that the main players for good and evil would be located in places where there was furious battle. To put it metaphorically, in an air raid the bomber pilot knows he’s over the enemy when he’s taking fire. The more enemy fire he takes, the closer he is to being above the target.* So therefore, in order to find the True Church on Earth, I would have to find the group that was severely attacked, ridiculed, and subverted. Yet, to qualify as the True Church, this same persecuted organization would have to simultaneously be fruitful and have spread worldwide.

Based upon that principal, all Catholics should have joined the Reformers, since they were severely attacked, ridiculed, and subverted by Rome and pagans, yet simultaneously became fruitful and have spread worldwide - with much martyrdom.

Yet rather than using the persecution principal as the definitive mark by itself, the author should examined the core beliefs of churches in the light of the only wholly inspired-of-God and substantive record of what the New Testament church believed which is Scripture, especially Acts thru Revelation. Which shows how they understood the OT and gospels). In which distinctive Catholic teachings are not manifest .

But the Catholic Church—the word “Catholic” coming from the Latin language, meaning universal—has spread across the globe in spite of all attacks against it.

Actually, its spread much depended upon the unholy use of the sword of men in order to obtain power (even in the 4th c., pope Damasus 1 employed a murderous gang in order to obtain his papal chair, and then used the secular sword against theological competition).

And finally, here in North America, we had the Protestant English, who in their perpetual protest against apostolic authority, saw fit for 300 years to wage physical and cultural war to drive out the Spanish and French Catholics from this realm, clearing the field to make way for a Hebraic -Puritan oligarchy that we now know as the United States.

300 years in North America to make way for a Hebraic -Puritan oligarchy? Is he brainwashed? More delusion by an anti-America RC whom you evidently sanction. Obedience to the pope required RC rulers to exterminate all those she declared were heretics (which I think many TradCaths would like to do, or at least censor them), and thus, among other worthy reasons, many colonies opposed Catholicism obtaining a foothold.

Yet in contrast to Catholic countries such as Spain, it was here in America that Catholics obtained freedom of worship, and even predominated in many areas (now liberal), in a country that established separation of church and state. And Catholics also argue that the Revolution was wrong.

And so here we are. I was looking for the True Church, and I have found it.

Actually, based on his testimony and sophistry, he found delusion preferable to Scriptural Truth, and became an anti-American heretic, who attacks those in the one true church.

For the only one true church is the body of Christ, (Colossians 1:18) to which He is married, (Ephesians 5:25) the "household of faith," (Galatians 6:10) for it uniquely only and always consists 100% of true believers, and which spiritual body of Christ is what the Spirit baptizes ever believer into, (1Co. 12:13) while organic fellowships in which they express their faith inevitably become admixtures of wheat and tares, with Catholicism and liberal Protestantism being mostly the latter.

38 posted on 08/27/2019 7:04:01 PM PDT by daniel1212 ( Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: Pontiac
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, who didst rise in the morning? how art thou fallen to the earth, that didst wound the nations? And thou saidst in thy heart: I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God, I will sit in the mountain of the covenant, in the sides of the north. I will ascend above the height of the clouds, I will be like the most High. But yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, into the depth of the pit. (Isaiah 14:12-15)
39 posted on 08/27/2019 7:09:13 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: daniel1212

Not that I read your posts, but thanks for bumping the hatred.


40 posted on 08/27/2019 7:10:44 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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