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1 posted on 08/18/2019 7:05:12 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Al Hitan

Mother of God?


2 posted on 08/18/2019 7:17:04 PM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: Al Hitan

Sorry, God does not have a “mother” as in your vernacular.


3 posted on 08/18/2019 7:18:00 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Al Hitan

Of course, we do not rest faith upon the tradition of St. Mary’s dormition and assumption into heaven; faith clings to Jesus Christ alone and finds true peace and Sabbath rest forever in Him.


Here is an example of evangelical practice. Having served alongside the author of this piece for several years I can attest to a consistent example of holding firm when necessary, and refraining from the same when not.

On a side note, it is something of a surprise to see this posted here.


5 posted on 08/18/2019 7:34:47 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: Al Hitan
This has already been posted:

https://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3772069/posts.

Did the pot not get stirred enough for y'all?

9 posted on 08/18/2019 7:43:09 PM PDT by boatbums (semper reformanda secundum verbum dei)
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To: Al Hitan; All

“Hail Holy Queen! Mother of Mercy... After this our exile show unto us the Blessed Fruit of thy womb, Jesus!”


15 posted on 08/18/2019 7:56:42 PM PDT by Marchmain (peace...pax)
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Bookmark


25 posted on 08/18/2019 8:42:00 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog.)
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To: Al Hitan
15 August 2007

An article from 2007? Are you that lonely you wanted to stir up conversation?

47 posted on 08/19/2019 3:34:33 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Al Hitan
Good info. Thanks for posting!

I’ve been curious about His Mother Mary, who my guess is the one human out of all humanity ever that He had/has the closest connection with.

They were linked together at His Conception, before His Birth, and from that moment on my guess is their connection was way beyond words.

And I am also curious about those who know Her now, as well as what they know.

Thanks, again, for helping me with that!

57 posted on 08/19/2019 8:20:50 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the matrix, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.)
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To: Al Hitan

This from someone who has studied both Hebrew and Greek and knows the Bible.
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As far as Mary goes, we know that no human being is anything but a creation of God. And God’s creation cannot beget an omniscient God creator. You were correct in saying that in referring to her as the mother of Jesus, the writers of the Bible were merely describing her.

Indeed, I would think that it is idolatry to believe that Mary is the mother of God as if she were equal to or a god herself. We have only one God. The Bible says Jesus set aside his divinity to become a man. And to become a man, he had to gestate and be born by a woman. That does not make the woman the mother of God as if she can of her own create a divine being; she is a servant of God (as she referred to herself), whom God used to beget Jesus. The Trinity is a difficult concept. As they are one, but each part of the Trinity is also distinguishable.

For example, Jesus was crucified, died and was buried, but God, the Father, did not die that day. Jesus died and God resurrected him. Therefore, clearly there is a distinction between Jesus, the Son of God, and God, the Father. So, we also can say that Mary is mother of one and not the other. But Jesus and the Father are also One. It is not something our human minds can fully grasp, but God gave us metaphors to try to help us understand. And the metaphor He gave us for Jesus is that he is the “Son of God” and God is the “Father.” to help us understand that there is a distinction, but they are also One.

Mary is not referred as the “Mother” in the way God is called the “Father,” but she is simply the “mother of Jesus.” She is never referred to as part of the Trinity or is somehow equal to it. But Jesus referred to God as his Father, clearly making a distinction between himself in the form of the Son of God and God, the Father. Indeed, God himself distinguished himself from his Son at the transfiguration when he said, “This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased; listen to him.” Was He simply speaking aloud and referring to Himself? No, of course not. To believe that Jesus and God are the same for all purposes is to ignore how Jesus and God referred to themselves.

It is only sophistry to try to make Mary out to be the mother of God, the Father, as if she is somehow equal to or grater than God. Indeed, if you want to engage in such sophistry, then when at the time of his death, Jesus declared that Mary was now John’s mother and John was now Mary’s son, this may have been Jesus’s way of removing himself from the earthly mother/son relationship and restoring himself to his divine role as that of a member of the Trinity, but in a way to indicate that Mary was not a part of that divine nature. I’m not saying whether this is why he said this to Mary and John, but I could see an argument for it to avoid people declaring that Mary was somehow more than human or was part of the divine. Maybe he was aware that this was a risk.


73 posted on 08/19/2019 11:10:15 AM PDT by frnewsjunkie
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To: Al Hitan

2007???


146 posted on 08/19/2019 4:04:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: All
"Mother of God". The Protestant of the posted article gets it right.

THE MOTHER OF GOD (THEOTOKOS):

    The Fourth Ecumenical Council (Synod) in Ephesus, using the First Anathema of Saint Cyril of Alexandria, condemned Nestorios (heretic) who insisted that the Ever-Virgin Mary gave birth to the Man Christ and consequently she should be referred to as "Man-bearer" (i.e., Mother of the Man Who was never united with the Logos/Word) or "Christotokos" (i.e., Mother of Christ but not Mother of the God-Man). This Council proclaimed the Ever-Virgin to be truly "Theotokos" for she had indeed given Birth to the Logos/Word of God Who became Flesh. This term was repeated by the 4th Ecumenical Council in Chalcedon, which proclaimed that Christ "...during these last days for us and our Salvation..." was Born "...from Mary the Virgin and Theotokos according to His Humanity."

    The 6th Ecumenical Council (Synod) also proclaimed "...Mary to be Virgin..." "...mainly and Truly Theotokos." Obviously by calling her "Above all Saints Virgin" (i.e. "Panagia"), it is proclaimed that she is "Mother" for she gave real birth to the human Nature of the God-Man, whereas she is certainly the "Mother of God" because she conceived, carried and gave birth to the Incarnate Logos/Word and Son of God, the Second Person of the Holy Trinity. She did not give birth to His Divine Nature but only to His human nature, which He took up Hypostatically.

    The Ever Blessed Mary was Truly, not falsely, the Mother of the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God. This fact is witnessed by Holy Scripture that refers to her as "...the Mother of Jesus..." or "...His Mother..." and by the Archangel Gabriel when he announced that she would conceive in her "...womb and bring forth a Son." To Saint Joseph the Betrothed the same Archangel announced that "...that which is Conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit." The Ever Blessed Virgin Mary was first addressed as "...the Mother of the Lord..." by Saint Elizabeth, the mother of Saint John the Baptist. Saint Paul stated that "...when the fullness of the time had come, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law..." and that "...Jesus Christ our Lord...was born of the seed of David according to the flesh."


355 posted on 08/21/2019 6:49:15 AM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Al Hitan

Isn’t Mary the mother of the SON of God?


597 posted on 08/27/2019 2:36:52 PM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself.)
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