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Be careful not to confuse a devotional object with an amulet or idol.

A Scapular is a symbolic piece of cloth about the size of a postage stamp---two of them, actually, connected by a string --- and what it symbolizes, is being clothed with the Carmelite habit, of which it is a swatch, a sample. It connects one with security from hellfire and the promise of Salvation, which we --- like you --- have from Christ, and not from our on works. It is not by any means a requirement for salvation!

The comparison of a Scapular with a Wedding Ring does not mean that they are identical, but that they are in the same category: something which, when you wear it, reminds you of the daily commitments of your way of life.

As for the promise of avoiding hellfire, this is all part of a wider understanding of a devout life: committing one's whole life to Christ our Lord.

The 21st century skeptic takes a tweezers, so to speak, and plucks devotional practices out of their context of a "referred life" --- a life whose whole content "refers" to God --- or a life entirely devoted: which is what "devout" means.

You are tweezering out a 1% sample of a pious practice, without the tacit understanding of the 100% devoted life, in which everything is referred to Our Lord.

Be careful not to confuse a devotional object with an amulet or idol.

This is not a devotional object. This is an idol the apparition said to wear to avoid the eternal-fire.

The comparison of a Scapular with a Wedding Ring does not mean that they are identical, but that they are in the same category: something which, when you wear it, reminds you of the daily commitments of your way of life.

Not even in the same ballpark.

The scapular is making a false promise of avoiding the eternal fire.

The apparition said the person had to wear it continuously for it to "work"

As for the promise of avoiding hellfire, this is all part of a wider understanding of a devout life: committing one's whole life to Christ our Lord.

Nope.

The apparition was specific as to what this idol was about and what the person had to do to be sure "it worked"

There is no ambiguity other than modern day Roman Catholics attempting to squirm away from the meaning of the apparition.

The only way to avoid the eternal fire is to have faith in Christ and only Christ. He is the only One Who can save a person.

The NT is clear on this.

IF this scapular is bogus....will you publicly condemn the wearing of this idol along with the Miraculous Medal and/or any other Scapulars?

Should be a simple yes or no answer.

A Scapular is a symbolic piece of cloth about the size of a postage stamp---two of them, actually, connected by a string --- and what it symbolizes, is being clothed with the Carmelite habit, of which it is a swatch, a sample. It connects one with security from hellfire and the promise of Salvation, which we --- like you --- have from Christ, and not from our on works. It is not by any means a requirement for salvation!

Nonsense.

It makes a statement that is says is a PROMISE.

It PROMISES that if someone dies wearing that thing, they will not experience eternal fire.

There are no exceptions or disclaimers on it.

It says what is says and it promises salvation by wearing it when you die.

Therefore it's an idol and not an *aid to devotion*. It does not *connects one with security from hellfire and the promise of Salvation, which we --- like you --- have from Christ*. It doesn't say that.

Besides, Catholics continually tell us that nobody can know if they are saved until they get to heaven and find out. And that to be sure of your salvation is the *sin of presumption*.

And now you're telling us that by wearing it someone CAN be sure of their salvation?

Doesn't that mean that the people wearing it, sure that its going to keep them from hell, are continually committing the sin of presumption?

Is that a mortal sin or a venial sin?

Are those clothes ready for the dryer; YET??

They've been spun long enough!!

All your words to try to DENY what the SCAPULA plainly says on it...

...sigh