Lutheran Church Missouri Synod affirms creation in six days

Creation Ministries International ^ | 1 August 2019 (GMT+10) | Lita Cosner

[Wm F Buckley Republican]

I thank God for bringing us to the LCMS.

[Mom MD]

Life long member. I thank God for placing me there and also g them to stand firm on sound doctrine. Pray for your parties and pray we continue to stand firm against the increasing apostasy. The hour is late.

[Mom MD]

Yikes! big fingers little keyboard . Pray for your pastors it should have said

[ravenwolf]

I dropped out of school after I finished the seventh grade
but I have believed in a creator from my first memories, I went
to church twice before I was 32 years old, but never knew who
Jesus was.

In the sixties there were hippies at the rest areas claiming to
be Jesus and I had seen so called pictures of him so in about
1971 I started reading the Bible to satisfy my self that Jesus
was just a hippy of his day.

I won’t go into details but the first things I came upon was that
Jesus was anything but how most religions portrayed him.

I quickly became a believer and have found a few non denominal
churches that I like but I have no use at all for the religious
institutes, because it’s as you said not a religion but faith.

[ravenwolf]

That is true.

[foreverfree]

LCMS ping from me too! Amen! Christ is risen!

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[Wm F Buckley Republican]

Thank you!

[Wm F Buckley Republican]

United Methodist is NCC and they’re more left wing political than Christian. ELCA also NCC. It’s a reliable litmus test; if a “church” belongs to the NCC, they’re left wing crazy political.

[Wm F Buckley Republican]

How old is God?

[Mr. Lucky]

Ditto.

[Mr. Lucky]

God is eternal.

[Mom MD]

He is Risen Indeed

[redgolum]

I have been reading the documents.

The only I have issue with is the one on cremation, since I feel it is not well thought out.

[redgolum]

No gay marriage. No sex out side of marriage.

[mrobisr]

2 Peter 3:8

[mrobisr]

“If anything the first light sounds more like the light given off by a nebula or some other process.”

It is the Glory of God through Jesus Christ shinning into His creation to which upon the manifestation of Christ now shines in our hearts. Good example is Exodus 24:16.

2 Corinthians 4:6
For God, who said, “Light shall shine out of darkness,” is the One who has shone in our hearts to give the Light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ.

Romans 1:20
For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.

[ravenwolf]

God is eternal.

[BroJoeK]

YogicCowboy: "Either God is God, or He is not.
If He is the uncreated Creator, then He can create in an instant if He so chooses.
Arguing emphatically the opposite, that He can equally create slowly, via evolution - and therefore did so - is sophistry, intended to rationalize disbelief: the assumption that God needs to be helped, metaphorically, by Darwin and company.
It unnecessarily complicates the narrative, and imposes limits upon God...

...My background is equally in the sciences and in theology."

If you are indeed educated in natural science, then you know it does not deal in words like "truth", "belief" or "faith".
Instead, science begins with facts, which it defines as confirmed observations, and hypotheses, meaning falsifiable explanations.
Explanations which have been tested and not falsified, science calls theories, of which, for example, evolution is one.

The scientific problem with any literally "young earth" explanation is that there are far too many facts (= confirmed observations) which would falsify such ideas.
We are left then to wonder, if God did, indeed, create the Universe in six of our days, He did so while leaving us many clues that it's vastly older -- 13+ billion years older.

And neither the Bible nor science itself suggest any potential explanations for that.
But the Bible does suggest that a "day" to God is not the same as a day to us, for example:

Psalm 90:4 "A thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night."

Notice there are two equations here: 1) God's day = 1,000 of our years and 2) 1,000 years to us = "a watch in the night" = about 4 hours to God, in which case God's day would be 6,000 of our years.
Surely that is enough to tell us that God's day can be whatever He wants it to be in our terms.
It is not strictly one thing or another.

Since the Bible does not give a single equation of "one day = X number of years", it should be permissible to accept whatever natural explanations for ages of Earth & Universe seem most likely.

You disagree on scientific grounds, biblical grounds or both?

[the lone haranguer]

The Synod has been true to God’s Word on this matter. Largely, this is true, but in certain quarters, at the behest of a more liberal pastor, certain congregations have allowed that agenda to be advanced. The vast majority, I believe, still maintain that it is a sin, and like any other can be repented and forgiven, but never accepted.

[grey_whiskers]

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