Posted on 07/29/2019 4:58:30 PM PDT by ebb tide
When I was in the Theology section at the Pontifical Lateran University, I would see at the end one of the hallways the doors leading into the John Paul II Institute for Marriage and the Family, founded at the sainted Pope’s behest after Familiaris consortio by the eventual Cardinal (and one of the four Dubia brothers) Carlo Caffarra. It was a great institution which activated John Paul’s teachings.
Francis renamed the place and gave it a new mission in 2017. Then he appointed new personnel to carry out that mission. Co-founder of the Sant’Egidio group and a postulator for the cause of Oscar Romero Archbp. Vincenzo Paglia reigns over the place now as Grand Chancellor of the Lateran. You might have read also about Paglia that there is a seemingly homo-erotic fresco image of him in a fresco (which he commissioned) in the cathedral of his former Diocese of Terni-Narni-Amelia. The President, now, is Pierangelo Sequeri.
Part of the mission of the new team at the Institute seems to be part of an over-arching agenda: diminish the magisterial teachings of John Paul II. That’s, frankly, at the core of the Five Dubia of the Four Cardinals, among whom was Caffarra, probably the main author of the sumbitted Dubia. The question, dubia, center on affirmations in Familiaris consortio and Veritatis splendor.
In any event, the now-former President of the JP Institute, Msgr Livio Melina, a tenured-professor of Moral Theology, was recently sacked from his teaching post. Also sacked, Stanslaw Gryiegel, a long-time friend of John Paul who in 2018 criticized those in the circle of Francis who were undermining the teachings of Humane vitae on contraception. You might recall that Maurizio Chiodi – a disciple of the infamous darling of the Fishwrap and Curran-types and Hell’s Bible, Bernard Häring – in a talk at the Gregorian (Jesuits) suggested that Amoria laetitia perhaps made artificial contraception acceptable. Chiodi was – incredibly – appointed to the Pontifical Academy for Life (headed by Paglia).
It seems that the new statues of JPII Institute 2.0 make no reference to the teachings of JPII or to Humanae vitae.
In Rome, it is said that Paglia and the “Pagliani” are conducting a purge of the last remaining “Wojtylians”.
No joke. In the headline, below, Card. Scola, former head of the Lateran (when I was there) and therefore head of the JPII Institute says: “Purge”
What’s next? Disappear people out of airplanes?
Ping
Catch that use of “disappear” as a transitive verb. La Guerra Sucia.
As in Cardinals Burke, Mueller and Pell? All at the hands of the dictator pope?
Interesting that they refer to “Wojtylians” rather than JPIIists. I guess it just sounds to cheeky to purge the John Paul II Institute of people whose orientation comes from the teaching of John Paul II. This way it just sounds like it came from some egghead phenomenology professor from Krakow.
I forgot to mention the demise of the Knights’ of Malta, Matthew Festing and Henry Sire, the latter the author of the Dictator Pope, and the former US papal nuncio, Carlo Maria Viganò, who has been forced into hiding.
ML/NJ
That’s what I mean by “Guerra Sucia” -— “Disappearing” people was a tactic of Argentina’s long “Dirty War.”
When I was a young lurker, I read posts like this and was always shocked at how the Traditionalists would be very bearish on JPII and even Benedict XVI. I certainly understood the errors in their Pontificate (nobody is perfect except Jesus), but I also felt that net-net, they were positive additions to the Church.
I also thought it would be mega-powerful if the "Trads" and conservative EWTN lot joined forces instead of having round after round of circular firing squads. Alas, it never happened...
...and then Pope Francis came along.
Now, I know many people think this current Pontificate is simply the ineluctable result of JPII and BXVI.
But after reading this article, I can't help but think that, perhaps, there is a lot in common with NeverTrumpers and SSPX et al.
I mean, dogma is dogma and Truth is Truth and we should never yield on things like the existence of hell and divinity of Jesus. But opposing the Mass in English as a heresy could be viewed as akin to opposing Trump and voting for Hillary because of his trade policies.
If so, it is plausible that had we all joined forces, yea we'd still have Mass in English and alter girls, but maybe we wouldn't have gotten John Paul Institute 2.0 and the current purge.
How did you come up with that wild conclusion?
Please elaborate.
Who has ever stated that?
P.S.: It's altar girls, not alter girls, unless you're into the defense of the LGBTQ perverts.
Similarly, there was an article tonight about Bill Kristol calling Republicans “cowardly” for not condemning Trump for his "attacks" on “The Squad." Really, dude? Your dislike of Trump runs that deep?
Again, I am not saying that Popes who wade into error are beyond reproach. Nor am I saying that Trump is perfect. But I AM saying that, at some core level, perhaps there is a lot in common with the Christopher Ferraras and Ben Shapiros of this world. Because net-net net, I long for JPII or BXVI vs where we are today.
Why not go full Catholic and long for a Pius X?
He is the last canonized pope prior to JP II's "saint" factory, resulting in the canonization of every deceased VC II pope, except for JP I.
Where did you get the crazy idea that I dislike Trump?
It's you who seems to dislike the SSPX and all other traditional Catholics.
As for my alleged dislike of Traditionalists, you couldn't be more wrong. To be clear: my issue with some of them is their inclination at times to throw out the baby with the bath water. Yes, the saint factory is a problem as was the Luminous Mysteres but as a whole, those pontificates beat what's happening today. And yes I'd prefer a return to Pius XII and a return to Reaganism but it's not in the cards at this time - I can live with Trump just like I could live with BXVI.
If pressed, however, I prefer the TLM with the priest facing the east to the Mass in the vernacular where more often than not, some ghastly ad libbing happens, i.e. "...came down from Heaven, and became HUMAN" or "...happy are we to be called to this BANQUET" or "on the night he was betrayed, he broke bread with his FRIENDS."
I hope that helps. Sorry for any confusion.
For the record I’d be ok rolling things back in the Church 100+ years vs staying where we are. It would take some getting used to, i.e. no meat on Friday, but it wouldn’t be a struggle and it’d beat America Magazine making a case for a Communism.
So true. As I understand it, the Pope has plenary power over liturgy. Catholics need to obey the Pope in matters of discipline, while disagreeing with him on errors of faith or morals as taught by the Magisterium.
The Novus Ordo is given the Church and we should accept it and quit denigrating those who prefer it to the Latin Mass.
Or you could go to an Anglican Rite service, which fixes all of the "English" problems of the Novus Ordo service and retains "the vernacular", with a beauty and reverence NOT inferior in any way to "the Traditional Latin mass".
But, and I am not being argumentative, reciprocity of spirit needed. Many TLM attendees are regarded by "regular mass attendees" as freaks, bitter-clingers, outdated, "rigid" people without a heart. It happens...I've heard it and seen it, mostly in the press and online but even in my own travels. I mention my love of TLM and then the judgmental inquiries come..."how do you understand what they're saying?" "I don't like it when the priest has his back to the people." "Wasn't Latin outlawed under Vatican II?" etc.
The enemy is sin and the Smoke of Satan. Souls hang in the balance. Let's focus our energies there.
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