Posted on 07/23/2019 12:29:23 AM PDT by Morgana
WACO, Texas — A Waco couple said their daughter was denied admission to a local day care because they are in a lesbian relationship.
Brittney Ready and her wife, Stacey, have been married for two years and have four kids.
Their youngest daughter, Callie, was on the waiting list at Parkview Christian Academy until they got a call Thursday saying the day care finally had an opening.
Brittney wrote on Facebook that the director was sweet and welcoming to the couple and their daughter. It wasn't until they were ready to leave that they ran into problems.
“We go to leave with paperwork in hand only for the administrator to call us into his office to let us know that he heard that Stacey and I our 'mates' and because of that they cannot welcome Callie" Brittney said.
Ready said the director told the couple the day care could not welcome Callie because their christian-based faith would not be able to accept their daughter.
“So does that mean 'unwed parents' cannot enroll their kids? Does that mean 'divorced parents' cannot enroll their children there?" Brittney said. "Sin is sin and Jesus sat and welcomed all the sinners. We were not trying to plague your day care, sir. We are gay. Our daughter is not."
Stacey said it's important to the women that their children receive a christian education.
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Maybe from previous marriages?
Logic conquers supposition.
“Then, once inside the tent, they decry the teachings that they knew they would disagree with.”
Yeah that’s what I see happening too all the time. You’re right this is a pattern of behavior. Seems to come down to where the line gets to be drawn. I think that we could have erred on the side of admission of the children into the daycare center. And then give the attendees the option to withdraw because of the teachings and atmosphere.
I think the outcome is the same, it will end up in the courts. However by excluding the children the daycare center has placed themselves in the position of defending their right to exclude children rather than defending their right to teach. Even though the 1st amendment allows both.
But one is a darker defense than the other. And as we know these days ‘feelings’ is more important than law. So from a ‘feelings’ perspective I would have sided with the gay couple in this case because we’re punishing the children for the sins of the parents. However, at the same time the gay couple is clearly looking for trouble. From a constitutional/biblical perspective there’s really no question about the legitimacy of the day care centers position. We’re dealing with ‘OPTICS’ here and also faith in the power of the gospel to overcome the evil attacks from the other side.
Given the option to withdraw, the world always seeks to intrude - to debase that which they do not control.
We disagree that it is a darker defense, in part because I factor the propaganda effect in, where the two women’s arrangement is exposed to children who otherwise would not be taught it was “normal” - the children already enrolled.
My original objection to your posts was your usage of words like “bigoted” when describing a religiously founded objection to admitting the child of a same-sex “marriage”. That is how the world describes Christianity. It is not how a Christian should describe Christianity.
Yes, he is. It’s a pre-school, not a church. You want to minister to unrepentant sinners with your children, do it yourself. Your’s is the sanctimonious attitude on this thread.
I assume if the Parents were in a Polygamous Marriage and the Facility refused them there would be no story.
Which reminds me, if Gay Marriage is now a Right protected by our Federal Constitution according to the SCOTUS, why isn’t Incestuous and Polygamous Marriage a protected Right as well?
Christ loves sinners but God hates sin.
Jesus teaching in Luke 18 describes/explains the difference between someone who is proud and unrepentant and someone who recognizes they are a sinner and needs mercy.
“Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, ‘God, I thank You that I am not like other men—extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I possess.’ And the tax collector, standing afar off, would not so much as raise his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me a sinner!’ I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other; for everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, and he who humbles himself will be exalted.” - Luke 18:10-14
God has mercy on repentant sinners aka John 3:16. God's mercy and love is not synonymous with God accepting or tolerating sin. Those who proudly flaunt their sin and tell us that license to sin is equivalent to God's love are delusional and/or liars.
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
Have a nice day. ‘Pod.
That is true. Excellent admonition.
I am not saying to go into this blind. But do not visit the sins of the parents on the child.
God will provide discernment.
" But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one..."
'The name of brother' is one who is a fellow Christian. So if one of the two women professes to be a Christian but persists in this, then I agree with you. If not, then the verse doesn't apply.
AFA daycare goes, in a perfect world you are correct. That would be ideal and preferred. However, we live in a world where financially, it is very difficult to have two parents around the children all the time.
Thank you for your thoughtful post.
'Pod
Maybe just because they are lesbians, they can’t be Christians? I bet they are Christian...
Surely you’re not saying that homosexuals can be Christian? They can CLAIM to be Christian but the Bible says unrepentant homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God, meaning they’re going to hell. That definitionally means they’re not Christian. The Book of Revelation reinforces this judgment.
"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who substitute darkness for light and light for darkness; Who substitute bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter! - Isaiah 5:20
“We disagree that it is a darker defense, in part because I factor the propaganda effect in”
I think we can disagree agreeably on that over a brew.
And I probably could have used more positive language to describe the situation. For that i regret having offended you. However there’s no doubt in my mind that is the language the left will use to describe the issue. We’d better get used to it.
Logic conquers supposition.
Somtimes logic doesn’t work. Maybe they are just sexually promiscuous.
I cannot argue against a church organization’s welcoming an innocent child and the child’s family into its fold. Both of you are making strong points.
Still, I can understand a church’s decision to decline admission in a case where a setup is obvious. Also, we haven’t heard from the church. Maybe there’s more to the story.
Personally, either way, I’d be fine with whatever the church decided.
In my experience, church schools or organizations usually require a signed statement - either a statement of faith signed by the parents, or a letter from another church confirming the family’s membership, or a statement signed by the parents accepting that their child will be instructed in the church’s beliefs.
In my experience, when a church organization is welcoming to everyone, usually it requires that last type of statement. We probably agree on this point, though.
Agreed. Many parents don’t agree 100% with a set of beliefs, but they respect those beliefs and even strive to raise their children in accordance with them.
And, agreed, this case seems different, especially because the women ran to the news media with their story.
Thank you!
The only way the CHRISTIAN school could allow the child admittance is if the perverted parents signed a contract that they would abstain from attending any functions, etc. No Christian parent would stand for their kids being exposed to that. That’s why they send their kids to Christian schools.
It would be great if the little girl were a student. The lesbians’ lifestyle should be out of the picture.
This is all a setup, anyhow, to attack Christians. There’s no way they want their kids learning about anything the Bible has to say.
The women were comparing their relationship to unwed or divorced parents. But, that's not a logical comparison.
Let's say the church daycare teaches children that their parents should be married and that marriage is between one man and one woman.
So then, the church is teaching children that their mothers and fathers should be together.
At the same time, the church is teaching that "two mothers" or "two fathers" should not be together.
So, the two situations are very different.
And that would be untenable in short order. There is no way these activist homo-Thugs would honor such an agreement.
Better to distance yourself from them at the outset.
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