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To: Elsie; Jacquerie
I attend a Wesleyan church.

It took some digging, but I finally found it. Established in 1968:

But this chart is dated and does not reflect the lastest splits:

Now What?

Good question. Since they were established all the way back in 1968, like the UMC, they’re probably ripe for schism as well.

223 posted on 07/08/2019 11:58:15 AM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Elsie; Jacquerie
And just so you know, I like the Methodists.

My wife and her brothers are converts from the UMC, my in-laws still belong to the UMC (when we visit we will attend with them), and my pastor was formerly a UMC pastor.

224 posted on 07/08/2019 12:06:52 PM PDT by Al Hitan
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To: Al Hitan

That’s quite an interesting chart.

It’s too bad that the REASON(s) for each ‘split’ is not given.

I’ve heard that sometimes it can be over some great theological stumbling block such as what color rug to lay in the foyer.


232 posted on 07/08/2019 3:22:16 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Al Hitan
Since they were established all the way back in 1968...

Yup. The church congregation I started attending was originally a Pilgrim Holiness church.

That denomination was invited to join the WMC in '68, since their theology understanding and the WMC's were identical.

Some congregations made the switch; others didn't.

Do you want to know WHY?

I'll tell you: clothing.

The PH folks were VERY conservative in their dress. No fancy buttons, no rings; women's hair done up in a certain fashion. No movies, dancing or eating out on Sunday.

It was basically a culture clash.

233 posted on 07/08/2019 3:29:02 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Al Hitan

http://www.drurywriting.com/keith/pilgrim.holiness.church.11.htm


234 posted on 07/08/2019 3:36:06 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Al Hitan; Elsie; metmom

This constant drumbeat with individual denominations and when they started is very lame.

Everyone who trusts in Christ alone and not their own works for salvation traces their faith all the way back to Jesus and the Apostolic faith.

Just because some people like different ways of governing the church body doesn’t mean we don’t call each other Christians; it just means that we’ve freed ourselves from the corruption in the Vatican.

This obsession with a visible church organization and condemnation of every believer outside of it is in blatant contradiction to the Word of God.


236 posted on 07/08/2019 4:04:03 PM PDT by Luircin
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To: Al Hitan

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Catholic_rites_and_churches
(Alexandrian:
Coptic Rite
Ethiopic Rite
Antiochian:
Maronite Rite
(West) Syrian Rite
Malankara Rite
Armenian Rite:
Armenian Rite
Chaldean or East Syrian:
Chaldean Rite
Syro-Malabar Rite
Byzantine Rite (Constantinopolitan):
Byzantine
Latin (Western) liturgical rites:
Roman Rite
Pre-Tridentine Mass (the various pre-1570 forms)
Tridentine Mass
Mass of Paul VI (
Anglican Use
Ambrosian Rite
Rite of Braga
Mozarabic Rite
Catholic Order Rites (generally defunct):
Benedictine Rite
Carmelite Rite
Carthusian Rite
Cistercian Rite
Dominican Rite
Franciscan Rite
Friars Minor Capuchin Rite
Premonstratensian Rite
Servite Rite
Catholic autonomous particular Churches:
Latin Church with Latin liturgical traditions
Eastern Catholic Churches
Alexandrian liturgical tradition:
Coptic Catholic Church
Ethiopian Catholic Church
Eritrean Catholic Church
Antiochian liturgical tradition:
Maronite Church
Syrian Catholic Church
Syro-Malankara Catholic Church
Armenian liturgical tradition:
Armenian Catholic Church
Chaldean or East Syrian liturgical tradition:
Chaldean Catholic Church
Syro-Malabar Catholic Church
Byzantine liturgical tradition:
Albanian Byzantine Catholic Church
Belarusian Greek Catholic Church
Bulgarian Greek Catholic Church
Byzantine Church of Croatia, Serbia and Montenegro
Greek Byzantine Catholic Church
Hungarian Greek Catholic Church
Italo-Albanian Catholic Church
Macedonian Greek Catholic Church
Melkite Greek Catholic Church
Romanian Church United with Rome, Greek-Catholic
Russian Greek Catholic Church
Ruthenian Catholic Church
Slovak Greek Catholic Church
Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church)


239 posted on 07/08/2019 5:42:24 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: Al Hitan
Schism, you say?

Catholics are experts on schism seeing as they have been in it with the Orthodox for about 1,000 years.

The Eastern Orthodox differ with Roman Catholicism on these issues:

The Holy Spirit (the filioque)

In EO - The third person of the Trinity, proceeding from the Father alone as in the original Nicene Creed. The Father sends the Spirit at the intercession of the Son. The Son is therefore an agent only in the procession of the Spirit.

In RC - 'When the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son, He is not separated from the Father, He is not separated from the Son'.

Mary - Assumption and Immaculate conception of

EO - The Assumption is accepted and it is agreed that Mary experienced physical death, but the Immaculate conception is rejected. Orthodox belief is that the guilt of original sin is not transmitted from one generation to the next, thus obviating the need for Mary to be sinless.

RC - Both are dogmas of the church. The church has not as yet decided whether Mary actually experienced Physical death. The dogma of the Immaculate Conception states that Mary, was at conception 'preserved immaculate from all stain of original sin' and should not be confused with the virgin birth.

Pope - Authority of

EO - As the Bishop of Rome, he has a primacy of honour when Orthodox, not of jurisdiction. At present, his primacy is not effective as the papacy needs to be reformed in accordance with Orthodoxy. His authority is thus no greater or lesser than any of his fellow Bishops in the church.

RC - The Pope is the 'Vicar of Christ' i.e. the visible head of the church on earth and spiritual successor of St. Peter. He has supreme authority (including that over church councils) within Christendom (The Power of the keys).

Pope - Infallibility of

EO - Papal Infallibility is rejected. The Holy Spirit acts to guide the church into truth through (for example) ecumenical councils. This Orthodoxy recognises the first seven ecumenical councils (325-787) as being infallible.

RC - The Pope is infallible when, through the Holy Spirit, he defines a doctrine on faith and morals that is to be held by the whole church. This is a dogma and is therefore a required belief within Catholicism.

Purgatory

EO - An intermediate state between earth and heaven is recognised, but cleansing and purification occur in this life, not the next.

RC - A place of cleansing and preparation for heaven. Also a place where the punishment due to unremitted venial sins may be expiated.

I'd say these were the "biggies", but other differences also exist. These are explained here.

http://christianityinview.com/comparison.html

240 posted on 07/08/2019 5:44:08 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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