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Jesus is the Life Preserver. Mary is the Rope He Chose To Reel Us In.
The Most Ancient Tradition | 06-16-2019 | Charles O'Connell

Posted on 06/16/2019 4:55:18 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell

In Captains Courageous, with Spencer Tracey, Freddy Batholomew is a blowhard millionaire's son who is socially, poorly adjusted. He uses his father's incredible wealth, to bully his classmates and even his teacher, but he's roundly disliked, and ostracized. While on an ocean liner, he unsuccessfully tries to impress some other boys by eating 5 ice cream sodas. When he has to throw up, to escape the mocking boys, he runs into a lifeboat area to evade their ridicule while purging his overindulgence, and manages to fall overboard into the ocean.

Instances of people falling overboard into the open ocean are rather commonly reported in the news. Usually they are lost, but if by chance their accidents are observed and a life-preserver is thrown to them, is that the end of the story, do we just say, "oh, well, you have a floatation device, you're okay now"?

No, we have to pull them in. The life-preserver, the lifesaver, is only part of the formula for saving their lives. There is also a rope, which must be attached to the life-preserver, and must be used to finally accomplish their salvation.

Jesus Christ is the one mediator between God and man. But on the man side of the equation, unlike the radical individuality most typified by J.J. Rousseau, we who life the life of Christians do so in communities. But even then, we do not abide as atomistic individualists. We live our Jesus-oriented life in relation to our fellows. "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching." – Hebrews 10:25.

Jesus' first disciple was his mother, who gave us the total account of his early life and who "treasured these things up in her heart". "A sword will pierce your own soul too, so that the secret thoughts of many hearts might be revealed". On the cross, he gave his mother to John to take in his home, but when you take your master's mother, she takes care of you.

Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple; and there were flashes of lightning, voices, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail. And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; she was with child and she cried out in her pangs of birth, in anguish for delivery.
And another portent appeared in heaven; behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems upon his heads. His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to bear a child, that he might devour her child when she brought it forth; she brought forth a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne, and the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, in which to be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days. …
And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown down to the earth, he pursued the woman who had borne the male child. But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle that she might fly from the serpent into the wilderness, to the place where she is to be nourished for a time, and times, and half a time. The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with the flood. But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed the river which the dragon had poured from his mouth. Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus. - Rev 11:19 -- 12:17

She forms the body of Christ. She schools her son's disciples. Those who won't attend her school, remain ignorant.

We are in a time when any merely human institution would be washed away. Our churches are going under the shadow of a new Heresy of Ba'al of Peor, as when the Hebrew people were successfully attacked and overwhelmed through human sexuality. Our churches are now pro-gay and as soon as the civil authority authorizes child sex, they will be indistinguishable from the denizens of the town of Sodom: "Bring them out that we may know them".

Jesus' mother forms the few of the elect who will resist being fooled by the great apostasy. Those who will not avail themselves of the lifeline of Mary, will be lost.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Ecumenism
KEYWORDS: jesus; mary
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To: SkyDancer
Catholic Mary worship?

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Mariolatry.

81 posted on 06/16/2019 2:51:46 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Zuriel

She and 119 others, CORRECT.


82 posted on 06/16/2019 3:05:45 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: hiredhand

He was the second disciple.


83 posted on 06/16/2019 3:08:04 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: All

More YOPIOS on display.


84 posted on 06/16/2019 3:13:07 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Thanks but it’s obvious.


85 posted on 06/16/2019 3:14:08 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: SkyDancer
I remember telling a Catholic friend of mine that Mary was just a means for the Word to enter our realm; she was the door by which the Word entered and became flesh. It’s like you worship the door a relative who’ve you’ve not seen entered into the house.

Although the door choose to open, by God's grace, He both motivating and enabling her to says "Let it be done to me according to Thy word."

Yet as holy noble and virtuous this Spirit-filled women of faith was, yet the Spirit spends gives more press to Paul engaging in his constant sacrificial labor of love in being a spiritual father to many and his care for the churches.

86 posted on 06/16/2019 3:17:03 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: MayflowerMadam; aMorePerfectUnion; metmom; daniel1212
Wow. They actually believe that?

I did, when I was a catholic. Since I am an ex catholic, I don’t accept it anymore.

87 posted on 06/16/2019 4:22:07 PM PDT by Mark17 (With Jesus, there is more wealth in my soul, than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o; daniel1212
Not so. There is even more about Mary in the OT than there is in the NT. The events and prophets of the OT refer to her in types and prophecies, just as they refer to her Son.

Article on the Immaculate Conception but offered due to the comments on the rendering of Genesis 3:15 from the Vulgate :

No direct or categorical and stringent proof of the dogma can be brought forward from Scripture. But the first scriptural passage which contains the promise of the redemption, mentions also the Mother of the Redeemer. The sentence against the first parents was accompanied by the Earliest Gospel (Proto-evangelium), which put enmity between the serpent and the woman: "and I will put enmity between thee and the woman and her seed; she (he) shall crush thy head and thou shalt lie in wait for her (his) heel" (Genesis 3:15).

The translation "she" of the Vulgate is interpretative; it originated after the fourth century, and cannot be defended critically.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07674d.htm

A bad translation leading to bad and error filled theology.

88 posted on 06/16/2019 4:24:06 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: mdmathis6

God’s desire tosa e us.


89 posted on 06/16/2019 4:34:56 PM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: Mr Rogers

He didn’t want to change water into wine either...


90 posted on 06/16/2019 4:37:00 PM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: Jmouse007

Amen! But you know, this bickering back and forth gets nobody anywhere. Only the Holy Spirit is going to be able to get the Catholic (or anyone else) to see the light. They gloss over every Scripture that shows Jesus to be the only way to the Father, and use some obscure solitary Scripture to try to prove Mary is more than she is. It wasn’t always Catholic doctrine that there was a co-redemptor. The whole idea that Mary is the immaculate conception is blasphemous, and the absurd notion that she is the Bride of Christ, when the Bible teaches that we, as believers, are his Bride, is all but schizophrenic. Ah, well, “pray he one for another” .


91 posted on 06/16/2019 4:40:16 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: ealgeone

The doctrine on the Immaculate Conception does not depend on the pronoun “she” for proof. The pronoun refers to her [Eve’s] seed.


92 posted on 06/16/2019 4:46:15 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child who's got his own." - Billie Holliday)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
"How foolish you are, and how slow to believe all that the prophets have spoken! Did not the Messiah have to suffer these things and then enter his glory?" And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself."

So He unfold to them what was said in the Law and the Prophets --- all their Scriptures.

But he told them nothing of the Gentile church or the Church age...Absolutely nothing about Mary pulling Jesus to God with a Catholic clinging to his back...The Gentile church was not revealed to anyone until it was revealed to the apostle of the Gentile church, Paul...Peter didn't even know about it...

The conversation about the Messiah (Jesus) in the O.T. had to do with his physical kingdom on earth where he would rule from a throne in Jerusalem...It has nothing to do with Christians...

93 posted on 06/16/2019 4:46:35 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Mark17

It’s all whack-o, but ... Mary was a virgin?

What about Jesus’ half siblings? Did Mary visit the Nazareth Fertility Clinic for artificial insemination?


94 posted on 06/16/2019 4:52:50 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Don’t take the mark which is going to be commanded to you sooner than you can even imagine.


95 posted on 06/16/2019 4:55:47 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
You haven't a clue, have you! ... And yet you fancy yourself a teacher in Catholicism!

The body of ALL BELIEVERS since Pentecost Spirit Day IS THE BRIDE OF CHRIST. You are so accustomed to spouting foolishness it now rolls off your fingers like water.

Do you believe Jesus is God With Us? Then God With Us has a bride named the Ekklesia. God is not a polygamist like you foolishly portray Him.

96 posted on 06/16/2019 5:00:04 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

You miss the point....the translation is wrong by Roman Catholicims’s own Catholic Encyclopedia online.


97 posted on 06/16/2019 5:06:58 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: MHGinTN
"The body of ALL BELIEVERS since Pentecost Spirit Day IS THE BRIDE OF CHRIST"

What are you fussing about? I believe that. That's what the Catholic Church has been teaching since the first century AD. I'd never deny that in a million years.

But thank you for giving us example #5254624 of ... (drum roll)...

The Claude Paradigm

“You Catholics are wrong because you believe X.”
“We don’t believe X.”
“Wrong again. Yes you do.”


98 posted on 06/16/2019 5:10:14 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves, and one another, and our whole life, unto Christ Our God.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Oh and BTW, it has yet to trickle into your Catholicised brain that if you make the Mother of Jesus into the wife of God then you have the Holy Spirit speciously fathering Jesus and Jesus (God With Us, woman) as Mary’s husband. You Catholic teachers are so twisted around from this ‘other religion’ that you are incapable of seeing the implications of your heresies and blasphemies


99 posted on 06/16/2019 5:13:08 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Is Jesus God with Us? Is Mary the wife of Jesus and His Mother? You dead souls are incapable of seeing your heresies and blasphemies, so I should expect nothing less than duplicity from your ilk.!


100 posted on 06/16/2019 5:15:01 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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