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Jesus is the Life Preserver. Mary is the Rope He Chose To Reel Us In.
The Most Ancient Tradition | 06-16-2019 | Charles O'Connell

Posted on 06/16/2019 4:55:18 AM PDT by CharlesOConnell

In Captains Courageous, with Spencer Tracey, Freddy Batholomew is a blowhard millionaire's son who is socially, poorly adjusted. He uses his father's incredible wealth, to bully his classmates and even his teacher, but he's roundly disliked, and ostracized. While on an ocean liner, he unsuccessfully tries to impress some other boys by eating 5 ice cream sodas. When he has to throw up, to escape the mocking boys, he runs into a lifeboat area to evade their ridicule while purging his overindulgence, and manages to fall overboard into the ocean.

Instances of people falling overboard into the open ocean are rather commonly reported in the news. Usually they are lost, but if by chance their accidents are observed and a life-preserver is thrown to them, is that the end of the story, do we just say, "oh, well, you have a floatation device, you're okay now"?

No, we have to pull them in. The life-preserver, the lifesaver, is only part of the formula for saving their lives. There is also a rope, which must be attached to the life-preserver, and must be used to finally accomplish their salvation.

Jesus Christ is the one mediator between God and man. But on the man side of the equation, unlike the radical individuality most typified by J.J. Rousseau, we who life the life of Christians do so in communities. But even then, we do not abide as atomistic individualists. We live our Jesus-oriented life in relation to our fellows. "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching." – Hebrews 10:25.

Jesus' first disciple was his mother, who gave us the total account of his early life and who "treasured these things up in her heart". "A sword will pierce your own soul too, so that the secret thoughts of many hearts might be revealed". On the cross, he gave his mother to John to take in his home, but when you take your master's mother, she takes care of you.

Then God's temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple; and there were flashes of lightning, voices, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail. And a great portent appeared in heaven, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars; she was with child and she cried out in her pangs of birth, in anguish for delivery.
And another portent appeared in heaven; behold, a great red dragon, with seven heads and ten horns, and seven diadems upon his heads. His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven, and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to bear a child, that he might devour her child when she brought it forth; she brought forth a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne, and the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God, in which to be nourished for one thousand two hundred and sixty days. …
And when the dragon saw that he had been thrown down to the earth, he pursued the woman who had borne the male child. But the woman was given the two wings of the great eagle that she might fly from the serpent into the wilderness, to the place where she is to be nourished for a time, and times, and half a time. The serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, to sweep her away with the flood. But the earth came to the help of the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed the river which the dragon had poured from his mouth. Then the dragon was angry with the woman, and went off to make war on the rest of her offspring, on those who keep the commandments of God and bear testimony to Jesus. - Rev 11:19 -- 12:17

She forms the body of Christ. She schools her son's disciples. Those who won't attend her school, remain ignorant.

We are in a time when any merely human institution would be washed away. Our churches are going under the shadow of a new Heresy of Ba'al of Peor, as when the Hebrew people were successfully attacked and overwhelmed through human sexuality. Our churches are now pro-gay and as soon as the civil authority authorizes child sex, they will be indistinguishable from the denizens of the town of Sodom: "Bring them out that we may know them".

Jesus' mother forms the few of the elect who will resist being fooled by the great apostasy. Those who will not avail themselves of the lifeline of Mary, will be lost.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Ecumenism
KEYWORDS: jesus; mary
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To: nobamanomore
Very true, and as a rule dissing a man’s mother will get you in trouble!

Rome's invented 'Mary' is NOT the Mother of Jesus.

161 posted on 06/16/2019 9:10:35 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: nobamanomore
After all every one of them can be lead by the Holy Spirit and come to their own conclusions regarding scripture and somehow they’ll all be different and all be correct.

Now is the perfect time to tell us that the councils that Rome has assembled over the years all ended in UNANIMOUS votes for all the practices that Rome now performs.

162 posted on 06/16/2019 9:12:07 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: nobamanomore

Fair warning: Do Not Take The Mark when it is commanded to you, sooner than you would expect.


163 posted on 06/16/2019 9:12:18 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
Oh, the horror of it all. Mary and Joseph actually had sex.

And liked it.

Assuming James was the oldest of the half brothers of Jesus, Mary and Joseph must have liked it, or James would have been the last child born to them. 😁🤣😆

164 posted on 06/16/2019 9:15:27 PM PDT by Mark17 (With Jesus, there is more wealth in my soul, than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold.)
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To: daniel1212
As Christ was sinless, so Mary was;

Let's look at what this little tidbit REALLY is saying:

 
 
 
Luke 2:22-24
 
When the time came for the purification rites required by the Law of Moses, Joseph and Mary took him to Jerusalem to present him to the Lord  (as it is written in the Law of the Lord, “Every firstborn male is to be consecrated to the Lord”),  and to offer a sacrifice in keeping with what is said in the Law of the Lord: “a pair of doves or two young pigeons.”
 

Leviticus 12:7-8
 
Then he shall offer it before the LORD and make atonement for her, and she shall be cleansed from the flow of her blood. This is the law for her who bears a child, whether a male or a female.
'But if she cannot afford a lamb, then she shall take two turtledoves or two young pigeons, the one for a burnt offering and the other for a sin offering; and the priest shall make atonement for her, and she will be clean.'"
 
 
 
 
Sinless Mary??
  Not according to Rome's Book;    1 John 1:8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.
 
That's the way it is WRITTEN.
 
THIS is the way it is TAUGHT:  1 John 1:8 If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us; the only exception being Mary, Mother of GOD, of course.
 Rome has made IT's 'Mary' into a HYPOCRIT, by painting her as SINLESS, yet writing of her going into the temple to make a SIN offering.

165 posted on 06/16/2019 9:16:08 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide

In your case, TAKE THE MARK! But seriously, you purposely tossed up a strawman herring! No ONE has said Jesus is not GOD. Now, Catholic, is Mary the Mother of God and God her husband?


166 posted on 06/16/2019 9:16:17 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: hiredhand

But Scripture records:

“Master, now you are dismissing your servant in peace, according to your word; for my eyes have seen your salvation, which you have prepared in the presence of all peoples, a light for revelation to the Gentiles, and for glory to your people Israel”

(Luke 2:28–32)

Simeon speaking here.


167 posted on 06/16/2019 9:19:51 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
“We don’t believe X.”

Then why does Rome TEACH X?

168 posted on 06/16/2019 9:24:16 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The you go again.


169 posted on 06/16/2019 9:24:52 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: northislander
My catechism says Mary is a co-mediatrix...

what CCC number?

170 posted on 06/16/2019 9:25:53 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion
She was married to Joseph and they consummated the marriage after Jesus was born.

And a hundred FR Catholic heads just exploded!

171 posted on 06/16/2019 9:27:34 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: nobamanomore
you don’t understand the Trinity, three persons! One nature! They are all God, but not the same person. This is the kind of crap you end up with interpreting scripture by yourself.

Yes, they are all the same person...

Rev 22:16  I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star. 

Rev 22:13  I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. 

Heb 1:1  God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 
Heb 1:2  Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word (Jesus), and the Word (Jesus) was with God, and the Word (Jesus) was God. 

You get that??? Jesus was God......................

Joh 1:2  The same was in the beginning with God. 
Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 

Jesus was the creator...

Gen 1:26  And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. 

Make man, in our image, after our likeness??? God and the Holy Spirit are invisible...

Joh_14:9  Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?

Job 33:4  The Spirit of God hath made me, and the breath of the Almighty hath given me life. 
Psa 104:30  Thou sendest forth thy spirit, they are created: and thou renewest the face of the earth. 

Gen 1:1  In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. 

God created the heavens and the earth...
Jesus created the heavens and the earth...
The Holy Spirit created the heavens and the earth...

How could that be??? Because they are all the same person...

So I'm thinkin' a smart man would believe God, and not man...

And BTW, Adam heard God walking in the forest...How'd that happen since God is an invisible spirit???

172 posted on 06/16/2019 9:28:46 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: nobamanomore
Read John 6 and compare the two.

Direct us to Scripture?

Fine by me!!


John 6:25-40

25 When they found him on the other side of the lake, they asked him, “Rabbi, when did you get here?”

26 Jesus answered, “Very truly I tell you, you are looking for me, not because you saw the signs I performed but because you ate the loaves and had your fill. 27 Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. For on him God the Father has placed his seal of approval.”

28 Then they asked him, “What must we do to do the works God requires?”

29 Jesus answered, “The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.”

30 So they asked him, “What sign then will you give that we may see it and believe you? What will you do? 31 Our ancestors ate the manna in the wilderness; as it is written: ‘He gave them bread from heaven to eat.’[c]

32 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, it is not Moses who has given you the bread from heaven, but it is my Father who gives you the true bread from heaven. 33 For the bread of God is the bread that comes down from heaven and gives life to the world.”

34 “Sir,” they said, “always give us this bread.”

35 Then Jesus declared, “I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. 36 But as I told you, you have seen me and still you do not believe. 37 All those the Father gives me will come to me, and whoever comes to me I will never drive away. 38 For I have come down from heaven not to do my will but to do the will of him who sent me. 39 And this is the will of him who sent me, that I shall lose none of all those he has given me, but raise them up at the last day. 40 For my Father’s will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day.”

173 posted on 06/16/2019 9:32:14 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: nobamanomore
Copy and paste the evidence that they aren’t!

I think that YOU made the claim they are there; yet you refuse to provide proof?

I doubt the jury will appreciate that ploy very much.

174 posted on 06/16/2019 9:33:56 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
You may think Jesus Christ is just a mediator between God and man, but Catholics know better.

I just LOVE weasel words!!

They make crating a strawman SO much easier!

175 posted on 06/16/2019 9:36:47 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide

Why does the Catholic church use archaic King James English in its Mass???


176 posted on 06/16/2019 9:40:38 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: ebb tide
You seem to have problem admitting Jesus Christ is God.

It appears your Logic 101 passing grade was issued by the same school that Felicity Huffman's kid got admitted to.

However; you are ACEING the Non Sequitar courses!

177 posted on 06/16/2019 9:42:30 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide; teppe

Creed?

Are you a MORMON?


178 posted on 06/16/2019 9:43:27 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: ebb tide
You just said it again. You seem to have problem admitting Jesus Christ is God.

You have Catholics on this thread who are saying that Jesus is not God, but along with the Holy Ghost are three separate persons...

179 posted on 06/16/2019 9:43:31 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Elsie

WHY CATHOLIC TEACHING SHOWS US THAT MARY IS TO BE CONSIDERED CO-REDEMPTRIX OR CO-REDEEMER. ... Just as the Blessed Virgin Mary is the Mediatrix, she also is the Co-Redemptrix or Co-Redeemer. The principle is the same.


180 posted on 06/16/2019 9:45:20 PM PDT by northislander
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