Posted on 06/14/2019 11:11:37 AM PDT by chuckles
Judaism is a religion. A person can convert to it. Or are you saying that there’s an ethnic component to it? If so, that means that people like Ivanka Trump have a problem.
Meanwhile, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” So, is that a lie?
Your post got me to thinking that one problem Christians have today is rejecting the Jewishness of Jesus. Do Christians observe the Lev 23 Feast days? Do they celebrate Easter and Christmas, or follow the Bible days of First Fruits and Tabernacles? When Constantine took over God's church, he was antisemitic and changed times and dates and laws away from the Bible. Do you understand the Sabbath is the 7th day or the 1st day? Jesus didn't change anything but He came to fulfill everything. Jesus didn't come to change the Law but to fulfill it.
By understanding Scriptures, we can understand much more than what a Gentile Christian is exposed to. Ask the average Christian what the "Day no one knows" is and they will say you can't know. A Jew will tell you it's Rosh Hashanah or Trumpets. A Messianic Jew just looks at Scripture and see how Jesus fulfilled all the Law for us.
So is a Messianic Jew a Christian or a Jew? The name "Christian" was used as a bad name for followers of Christ, but they are "believers" in Scripture.
Bingo! There are as many Antisemitic people in the church as there are in the ME. That was the purpose of me writing this. It doesn't belong in the church.
We already see the birth of reprobate minds as sodomy is now protected in the land. What happened to Sodom and Gomorrah? Are we better than they were? Jesus will return as it was in the days of Lot. As sodomy grows in the land, I expect Antisemitism to rise accordingly.
If you concentrate on certain people, you will end up in circles. I'm talking about hating Jews because they are Jews. There are many Gentiles that will be entering Hell along with some Jews. That doesn't mean Israel is not God's people. Israel is God's time clock. The future will be determined with what happens in Israel. That doesn't mean Jews won't be judged. Look at the fate of leaders that tried to divide Israel's land for peace. They all died horrible deaths.
... and also leaders of subversive movements unfortunately. The writings of the Rabbis encourage looting the gentiles. The Bolsheviks were largely dominated by ethnic Jews. Communist revolutionaries in Gernany were largely led by Jews, and also dominated the perversions on display in Berlin. Saul Alinsky was Jewish. The Frankfurt School of Marxists is Jewish. The poets and activists of the sixties were led mainly by Jews. Jewish writers and attorneys dismantled anti-porn laws. The majority of founding feminists, if not all of them, were Jewish.
I don’t understand your soteriology at all. It flies in the face of traditional Catholic or Protestant teaching, veering into a sort of special pleading that allows you to feel better about the prospects in the hereafter for a group of people you like.
A man may reject Christ and still be saved, so long as he’s a Jew? That’s interesting. That is what you are saying; essentially, that there is another pathway to salvation that is outside of Christ. You also seem to be saying that Christ is the pathway to salvation for Gentiles, but the earliest Christians were Jews who converted. Why did they bother? They didn’t need Christ.
You have been presented with the question of salvation through conversion to Judaism, and you have avoided it. You also avoided John 14:6. One is a pretty straightforward question, the other is Scripture. The Scripture answers the first question for you.
“The future will be determined with what happens in Israel.” No, the future will be determined by God’s will, not by interpretations of prophecy that got really popular in the last 50 years.
Back to the first point of the post, You can't just look at Israel as people you don't like and treat them as strangers instead of your brothers. We will all be judged individually, but as a nation, they are God's people. If you choose to curse them instead of bless them you are confronting God.
If they believe in Christ, then they are God’s chosen, just like all believers. If they don’t, they are just like any other infidel.
Having said all that, the Temple was destroyed in 70AD because they didn't need it anymore. The Temple was transferred to men's hearts for the Holy Spirit. But the Jews were still God's people, to the Jew first and then the Gentile. There was 2000 years of Diaspora and now Eze 37 has come true. Israel was reformed and is a nation in one day. The land is restored and will not split again. The Og and Magog war will come, but Israel is still God's people. The 3rd Temple will be built so the Antichrist will be able to desecrate it. The whole world will come against Israel and the final battle will be lost by Christ defeating the world that has come against Israel, God's people.
You seem to be worried that I'm saying a Jew can get to Heaven without Christ. I've never said that. This has nothing to do with individual salvation. What I am saying is that Israel is God's people and you make a mistake going against them. The UN represents 194 countries and about 80 % of their resolutions are against Israel. Do you want to go with the world or God? If you meet a homosexual Jew that kills babies and steals your money, they are no different than a Democrat Gentile that does the same. They will be judged the same. What I'm saying is when you side with AOC or Omar saying Israel should be attacked, you are siding with the Beast and against God.
Have you talked to Jews about this? Is there a consensus among rabbis that Christians are also Jews by adoption?
No, I’m challenging your concept of salvation. I’ll quote you.
“What I’m saying is you must join God’s family to be saved.”
Not exactly. To be saved, one must accept Christ and believe on Him. That goes for Jews and Gentiles alike. Period.
“This has nothing to do with individual salvation.” It sure did sound like it. I guess we can put this particular issue to bed with a simple question: Can someone be saved outside of Christ?
“Who are God’s people?” Christians, whether they are descended from Jews or Gentiles.
Let’s not forget Jesus...So? Your point? We can all see your point.
Considering the topic, your post is very appropriate, and instructive.
What is Anti-Semitism?
It is the religion of a tribe known as- The Ignoramuses
Ignoramuses happily use, enjoy the things SEMITES have brought to our world which are far out of proportion to the small fraction of humanity that is called Semite.....
What is Anti-Semitism?
It is the religion of a tribe known as- The Ignoramuses
Ignoramuses happily use, enjoy the things SEMITES have brought to our world which are far out of proportion to the small fraction of humanity that is called Semite.....
It was what was given to the animal muslims in congress to protect them from the truth
Nothing I wrote is anti-Semitic unless true statements are anti-Semitic.
I like this article on Antisemitism.
https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2018/10/28/on-antisemitism-critical-thinking-and-conspiracy-theories/
Semites are descendant’s of Noah’s son Shem.
The prophet Abraham was a descendant of Shem.
The Jews claim descendancy from Abraham’s (legitimate) son, Isaac. The Arabs claim descendancy from Abraham’s (bastard) son, Ishmael. So both the Jews and the Arabs are Semitic races.
How the label anti-Semitism only gets applied to anti-Jewery is anybody’s guess.
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