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What is Anti-Semitism
vanity | 6-14-19 | chuckles

Posted on 06/14/2019 11:11:37 AM PDT by chuckles

More and more each day I keep reading and hearing about Antisemitism and wanted to start a conversation about it as it is a historical marker for bad times coming. Over and over throughout history, when Antisemitism is on the rise, world calamity is on the rise. I wanted to talk to people to remind them of what they are supposed to already know but seem to forget periodically. I’m talking from a Protestant Christian, Bible believing point of view. It’s very important that we can agree that the Bible is the Word of God and the Plan God has for the world. If we don’t agree on that, you can just make up whatever “facts” you want to make your case.

First of all, let’s look at where Israel comes from. Abraham was a pagan that was called out of his home country of Chaldea to follow God’s leading. Chaldea is a place associated in the Bible with demonic activity, so we are all called out of a demon led life to follow God just as Abraham was. Abraham lost faith in the promises of God for a child, so he went into his wife’s slave to have a child of unbelief. Ishmael was a son to Abraham but it wasn’t the son promised by God. Ishmael was sent out by God and Isaac was born, the “love child of promise”.

What we start to see here is “election” by God. Ishmael was not selected but Isaac was chosen before he was even born. Isaac was married to Rebekah and a study of this marriage is a picture of the marriage of the Church to Christ. Father sent the Holy Spirit Servant to his Home country to a family member to pick a wife for the Father’s Son. Notice The Servant had to pick from Abraham’s family in his home country. It is very important to in God’s family to marry the Son. Then Esau and Jacob were born. They were fighting in the womb and would never get along in the world. God said Jacob I have loved and Esau I have hated. Once again God “elected” Jacob as His man and rejected Esau. God renamed Jacob “Israel” and blessed him. From now on, all children of Jacob would be Jews, the “chosen” people of God.

These facts seem to have upset the whole world that Israel was chosen for God’s people. The trick for people that want to be included into the Family of God is to join the family, not to fight them.

How do we join in the Family God loves? Well, Jacob had 12 sons and they had wives and sons, but Joseph was special to Jacob because he came from the woman he loved the most. Joseph’s brothers hated Joseph for that and sold him into slavery and told dad he was dead. Joseph story is a “type” for Jesus’ life. Joseph ended up 2nd in power in Egypt, but most important for us, he married a Gentile wife and had at least 2 children by her. Why was this so important to the world? As Jacob was dying, he prophesied over each of his children what their futures would contain. Before he got started, Jacob adopted Joseph’s sons as his own sons! He crossed his hands to bless them telling us that the cross would be the blessing that would get “us Gentiles” adopted into the family of God. Here again comes trouble from the world’s interpretation of Scripture. Christians must understand that we have been adopted into Israel, not that we have replaced the original family of God. God has made all of His covenants with the Jews, but has made available these same covenants through the Jews! Anyone can participate as long as they are adopted as Joseph’s Gentile children into the family.

For an Anti-Semite, they have been convinced that Israel has been kicked out of the Family of God and the church has replaced them. That is the lie from the pit of Hell! We see all through Scripture that Jews were punished by God, but He always came to rescue them because they are His people. Hosea is a picture of a marriage between Israel and God, BUT SHE LEFT HIM! Hosea ended up going to buy her again off the slave block. Israel “married” God when they agreed to do everything God told them to do on Mt. Sinai. The Law was presented to them and they said they would do everything God said. Of course, they were worshiping a golden calf before Moses even got off the mountain, but God stayed with them, as He would throughout Scripture all the way to Revelation.

The point here is God has made covenant with His people and God doesn’t break covenant. If God could break covenant, then why would he not break covenant with Gentile believers? All through Scripture, when people come against the people of God, God rescues them. There are many examples, but let’s just look at Ester. Haman was a descendant of an Agagite. Knowing the genealogies of the Old Testament is always helpful to follow why certain things happened. Let’s just say the Agagite’s were related to the tribe that Saul was told to kill everything with breath, women, children, dogs, cats, horses, anything that breathed, and Saul failed to do it. Needless to say God hated this line of people that was produced back in Genesis 6. If Saul had killed the king he was told to kill, there would not have been a “Haman” in the book of Ester. What is it about Haman that made him want to kill ALL of the Jews? This Antisemitism got him killed as he plotted against God’s people.

Another story is the story of the Maccabees. Antiochus Epiphanies was a despotic ruler and a type of Antichrist that defiled the Temple and tried to kill all of the Jews or make them worship his gods. The most powerful army in the world at the time was beaten back by a rag tag bunch of rebels to take Israel back for themselves.

IMO, Hitler had the same designs on God’s people and was destined to be beaten by God’s Hand. Israel has been here since Genesis and will be there in Revelation. Scripture shows this. The final battle will be a 200 million man army in the valley of Midego facing a remnant of Israel and Jesus will wade through them like a sword through butter. The result will be 184 miles of blood 6ft. deep. The Jews have not been replaced by the church. In fact The church will be Raptured out of harm’s way before God starts cutting seals. IMO, the spirit of Antichrist, Jesus mentioned that was already in the land, is equal to the spirit of Antisemitism. Jew hatred just means you hate God’s family. You cannot be a Christian and be Anti-Semitic as you would hate God’s people and therefore hate God. If you decide to go against God’s people, you will eventually come against God. I see Christians today that feel like the Palestinians deserve to take Israel away from Jews. Really? Since Abraham was promised the land in Genesis 12 the land has always belonged to Israel. I don’t see God asking anyone their opinion of what seems fair to an earth dweller. The Land belongs to God and His people. All others will be thrown out. Even the final 1000 years will be God living with His people in Israel and He will have His throne there. Being Anti-Semite is no different than being Antichrist. When Joseph met his brothers again in Egypt, he forgave them and loved them. The Jews are God’s people and we have no say in what He does with them. We as Gentiles, however, are fortunate to be able to join the Family of God and have an equal inheritance with the Sons of Israel. If you come against God’s people, eventually you will come against God. That is always a loser. If you or your church teach that Israel has been replaced by the church, you are sitting under error and are in danger of the wrath of God. A Gentile's role in the plan of God is to be adopted into the family, not fight it. God has made a way into the family called Jesus. If you hate Jews, you hate Jesus. If you belong to Jesus, you have been given the right to become Sons and Daughters of God. Don't hate your brothers.


TOPICS: Activism; Apologetics; Evangelical Christian; Judaism
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; belongsinchat; gentile; israel; judeophobia
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1 posted on 06/14/2019 11:11:37 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

You know, you can begin converting to Judaism today: https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/the-conversion-process/


2 posted on 06/14/2019 11:21:37 AM PDT by OldNewYork (Operation Wetback II, now with computers)
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Anti semitism can at times be like racism

Overused


3 posted on 06/14/2019 11:23:49 AM PDT by wardaddy (I applaud Jim Robinson for his comments on the Southern Monuments decision ...thank you)
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To: chuckles

Had a very basic level, it is a ready criticism against anyone criticizing Israel or anyone of Jewish faith. I think that it is in overused criticism, which undermines gets real concern.


4 posted on 06/14/2019 11:25:46 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: chuckles

My favorite quote on antisemitism is from the late Anwar Sadat. Barbara Walters asked him why he was antisemitic, to which he replied, “Why would I be antisemitic? I am a Semite as are most Egyptians.”


5 posted on 06/14/2019 11:25:56 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Chivalry is not dead. It is a warriors code and only practiced by warriors.)
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To: wardaddy

This -

When it is reaches a point where no criticism is allowed there is something wrong. No group is above criticism.


6 posted on 06/14/2019 11:27:14 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: wardaddy
Said are hyperactive in the attempted coup d'état.... can't help but notice

7 posted on 06/14/2019 11:28:46 AM PDT by IWontSubmit
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To: OldNewYork

The point of what I wrote was I was already part of God’s family. I don’t have to convert to anything. Just as Effraim and Manasseh were adopted into Jacob’s family with equal inheritance, so I have an equal inheritance in Heaven.


8 posted on 06/14/2019 11:29:44 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

OK. Go with that.


9 posted on 06/14/2019 11:32:15 AM PDT by OldNewYork (Operation Wetback II, now with computers)
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To: chuckles

So Jesus wasn’t even necessary. Go it.


10 posted on 06/14/2019 11:34:43 AM PDT by cdcdawg (If white, western culture makes you feel out of place, THAT IS BECAUSE IT IS NOT YOUR PLACE!)
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To: chuckles

tl;dr


11 posted on 06/14/2019 11:35:27 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: BuffaloJack
But Arabs and Egyptians are not part of God family anymore than Ishmael and Esau were. The way to be part of the family is adoption through Jesus. God has elected the Jews. You can have condemnation of individual Jews, but the belief that Jews are no longer God;s people is error.

The Jews are destined for even more error, but they are still God's people. The 3rd Temple will be a sign that the Antichrist is coming and they will chose a man over God, but God will come rescue them once again. A time worse than the Holocaust is coming for them, yet they will still be rescued in the end.

12 posted on 06/14/2019 11:37:12 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: sparklite2

Since i believe all men are created equal i believe the antisemites are the ones who ACT LIKE they hate semites in real life. its not about your blood, its about how you act.


13 posted on 06/14/2019 11:38:37 AM PDT by TonytheTiger7777
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To: BuffaloJack

Well, he sure got that wrong. The Bible makes it plain that Egyptians (Mizraim) were Hamites. Arabs, if descended from Ishmael, are at least half-Semite (through Abraham) and half-Hamite (through Hagar, an Egyptian) and in general are probably more Hamite than Semite since Ishmael’s wife was also Egyptian.


14 posted on 06/14/2019 11:41:10 AM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: cdcdawg
".....So Jesus wasn’t even necessary".....

You are misreading something. If Joseph was a type and shadow of the coming Christ, then adoption of Joseph's children by Jacob(Israel) was the key for their inheritance. A Gentile can't get there without Christ.

15 posted on 06/14/2019 11:41:27 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: chuckles

You sure you don’t want to convert to Judaism?


16 posted on 06/14/2019 11:41:37 AM PDT by OldNewYork (Operation Wetback II, now with computers)
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To: chuckles

But couldn’t a Gentile get there by converting to Judaism?


17 posted on 06/14/2019 11:42:20 AM PDT by OldNewYork (Operation Wetback II, now with computers)
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To: chuckles

God wants Jews to be Jews, and uses non-Jews to make sure Jews remember they are Jewish. Sometimes that’s for the better and sometimes for the worse.

Capitalists hate Jews for being socialists, socialists hate Jews for being capitalists. Some religious people hate Jews for being non-religious, and some religious and non-religious hate Jews for being religious.

The State of Israel is just more of the same of the hazards of being identifiably Jewish.


18 posted on 06/14/2019 11:46:22 AM PDT by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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To: chuckles

From my standpoint as an American Jew, “anti-Semitism” in its traditional form is more like “anti-Jew”, blaming the Jews for everything from the economic collapse of post WWI Germany to global warming. Well, okay, glo-bull warming is the fault of George W. Bush and his corporate cronies...

From most of the history I’ve read, anti-Semitism usually arises when the non-Jewish people in charge of a country want to make points with the usually ignorant populace. Since Jews have had a tendency over the past few centuries to be the merchants and bankers of many countries, they become a prime target for these phony-baloney “leaders”. And, given the Jews make up a small minority (10% or so) of the population, it’s easy to pin it on them and make it stick.


19 posted on 06/14/2019 11:47:25 AM PDT by ssaftler (The opinions expressed here have not been peer reviewed, fact checked or focus group tested.)
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To: TonytheTiger7777
Since i believe all men are created equal i believe the antisemites are the ones who ACT LIKE they hate semites in real life. its not about your blood, its about how you act.

What does any of this have to do with being created equal?
And I would expect anti-Semites  who act that way to be that way.
And what does blood have to do with it?
I'm not following you.

20 posted on 06/14/2019 11:47:42 AM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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