Posted on 06/05/2019 11:27:40 AM PDT by Gamecock
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
Happens all the time. The pastors works was revealed by fire.
Grace Family Fellowship in Pleasant Hill, Missouri
ha ha ha ha ha ha !!!!!
“It’s not me that’s messed up - it’s the system!”
That is why it took us three churches before we found the one that fit us here in Kentucky. The other two were way too dogmatic. I’m more “liberal” in my beliefs as I age. That is, I have learned that much of what we are taught are an interpretation of a translation of an interpretation that is not really what was stated or meant in the original Koine Greek or Hebrew.
And when a church goes into full dogma mode, just because of me asking questions, it’s time to move on.
The longer I live, the more I realize that NOTHING takes the place of a One-to-One relationship with Christ. Nothing. Take all the church trappings and structure away and if you don’t daily make real in your heart the fundamentals of humility, openness, honesty before the Lord, you’ll live in deception and facades. Everything this guy tweeted showed Works. I read, I attended, I did this and that.
I’ve seen this mentality burn out so many over the years. They forget the daily acts of repentance and submission. None of us are perfect and ALL need Mercy and forgiveness until our last breath.
We should come to faith in Christ in humility and with a broken, repentant, and thankful heart, and for the joy and assurance of knowing we will be with Him in eternity.
Entering into faith for the sole purpose of personal gain is only going to produce disappointment and frustration.
This is a very selfish man.
The Christian Faith is a personal relationship with Christ the Savior, not a group or organization.
Ooh lookit me - I read the Bible 57000 times and was on 57001 when I realized it’s all a sham - I am so smart.
No, you’re a stupid dork who obviously never understood what you were reading.
I figured out in my TEENS (after I had read the Bible from cover to cover twice) that the church was corrupt and had my first schism when I tried to “save” a person in pain and ended up hurting them more.
Picking up ones cross and carrying the burden is a hell of a lot harder than whining and trying to destroy others faith because he can’t live up to the responsibilities of his own decisions and throws his family away for the sake of some sexual pleasure. Even then he couldn’t do the right thing and divorce his wife first THEN go for the affair.
At the very least you’d think he’d have understood that God isn’t Santa Claus.
Nope... simple dork idiot.
I recall a major ministry leader saying 1 out of every 100 women in the typical congregation is looking to sleep with the pastor.
“What about loving your wife “
Wives it sounds like
So he fostered what he thought was a lie since the 8th grade. If he had any honest in his heart he never would have become a pastor till he resolved his doubts. Instead he became a fraud and made being a fraud his livelihood. He should be required to return every penny he stole from the ministry
Christianity only works when you have true faith! It is not about religion, it is about relationship with God. If you don’t have that relationship, God does not reveal himself to you, but once he does show himself, you will never lose that faith again.
He’s just rambling. He knows he can’t live in sin and be a pastor so he is blaming everyone but himself.
That’s very interesting. I hadn’t heard of him.
Actually I can understand his 8th grade doubt. I’ve seen it affect people before. He had doubts. It’s not an unusual human trait. But to know you are fraudulently ministering to a flock and you yourself know you are lying to your parishioners you have stolen from them.
Of course his genitalia were responsible for his coming clean. If he were happy with his lot he would have continued to steal from his flock.
There are three takes on hell
1. ECT (eternal conscious torment of the lost)
2. CI (conditional immortality also known as annihilationism. That is, mankind is not eternal - unless one is born again. The rest die in the second death)
3. Universalism - all are, at the end of the day, saved
I used to be an adherent of ECT but am now CI. Frankly, my second choice would be Universalism. I simply can’t put my creator and savior in the ECT. It doesn’t fit their personality.
The challenge is that there is a lot of biblical support for some form if universalism, but plenty that goes directly against it. Meanwhile, the ECT message seems to be made up of, basically, bad translations of the bible and a lack of understanding of the meaning of the plain language as it would have been interpreted by those alive when the Jesus talked of Gehenna.
Best I can tell is that ECT was developed by people wanting to increase the number of people going to, and donating to church, and they didn’t care if people were going out of fear of torture rather than desire for a relationship with their creator.
70 times 7
Only Christians shoot their wounded. And gossip and slander, which the Bible lumps together with murder, are rampant in some congregations, of EVERY denomination and creed. Sounds like this man needed an open ended sabbatical, until he can heal. Pastoring is an unbelievably stressful job, because no matter how rotten your congregants are, or how bad your marriage is, or how troubled your homelife is, you’re expected to be perfect, or as close to it, as possible.
Your point is well taken in all but this one respect - we have the Holy Spirit down here. Life isn’t hard because God made it that way. Life is hard because people and Satan make it hard and God is who we turn to.
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