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Pope Changes Text of Gloria, Lord’s Prayer
Church Militant ^ | 6/4/19 | Martina Moyski

Posted on 06/04/2019 6:11:11 PM PDT by marshmallow

Traditional Catholics bewildered; Pope Benedict’s direction ignored

Catholics must now recycle their old missals and get a revised, current edition of the Italian missal that includes changes to the Gloria and the Lord's Prayer. President Cardinal Gualtiero Bassetti announced that Pope Francis has given the green light to the third edition of the missal on May 22.

The Gloria will be revised to "Peace on Earth to people beloved by God" (pace in terra agli uomini, amati dal Signore) from "Peace on earth to people of good will" (pace in terra agli uomini di buona volontà).

Changes in translation policy are fueled by Francis' Magnum principium ("The Great Principle"), issued in 2017 to which Francis was intensely committed. It called for translators to privilege respect of local languages over adherence to Latin. Francis also restored authority to bishops' conferences for translations, as the Second Vatican Council had decreed, undoing what has been called "creeping centralism of previous decades."

In other words, the Holy See no longer issues a recognitio that approves vernacular translations but now issues a confirmatio that confirms decisions made by the bishops' conferences.

(Excerpt) Read more at churchmilitant.com ...


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Prayer; Worship
KEYWORDS: lordsprayer; popefrancis
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1 posted on 06/04/2019 6:11:11 PM PDT by marshmallow
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To: marshmallow; Al Hitan; Biggirl; Coleus; DuncanWaring; ebb tide; Fedora; Hieronymus; irishjuggler; ..

Ping


2 posted on 06/04/2019 6:31:32 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: marshmallow

He has changed the Lord’s Prayer? How. It is in the Bible.


3 posted on 06/04/2019 6:34:41 PM PDT by marajade (Skywalker)
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To: marajade

Well, at least he still refers to The Lord as The Lord.


4 posted on 06/04/2019 6:39:12 PM PDT by rfp1234 (NBC: Putting the TURD in Saturday.)
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To: rfp1234

Pettiness is unbecoming.


5 posted on 06/04/2019 6:40:34 PM PDT by marajade (Skywalker)
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To: marajade

Francis is also issuing a new catechism, although without calling it such - it will be a binding “commentary” on the catechism. In it, he changes a variety of things, such as, for example, the death penalty, which he says is no longer permitted because the Church has “evolved.” There is no one else involved in this, these are all his own commentaries (and probably those of the awful people surrounding him, such as Maradiaga).

He doesn’t have the right or authority to do this, and he knows that it would be hard to expose it to light and have theologians weigh in, so he’s just doing it with his theory that every breath he takes and every idiotic thing he says is “magisterium.” Please somebody, drag this clown off the stage. He’s not even remotely funny anymore.


6 posted on 06/04/2019 6:42:16 PM PDT by livius
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To: marshmallow

The change makes it sounds like peace on earth simply comes from God loving people. It implies that the actions of people have no affect on the overall human condition. That humans have no responsibility to act in any certain way. No consequences for how they act. What a great pope. /sarc


7 posted on 06/04/2019 6:42:41 PM PDT by Revel
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To: marshmallow

So is this the Roman Catholic version of The Babylon Bee?


8 posted on 06/04/2019 6:46:46 PM PDT by Gamecock (In church today, we so often find we meet only the same old world, not Christ and His Kingdom. AS)
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To: Gamecock
Sounds like it, doesn't it?

:o(

The only difference is, the Babylon Bee is parody --- and this is papal self-parody.

Jorge's humorless hijinx knows no bounds.

9 posted on 06/04/2019 6:50:54 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (One person really CAN make a difference. 'Tho most of the time they prob'ly shouldn't. Marge Simpson)
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To: livius

Maybe he should call it “Frank’s Table Talk.”


10 posted on 06/04/2019 6:54:53 PM PDT by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: ebb tide

Oh my. This is is ABSOLUTELY ABHORRENT.


11 posted on 06/04/2019 7:03:42 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: marajade
I think the Pope is just worried that Jesus may have phrased it a little badly when he said "Do not lead us into temptation", because only the devil does that. Luckily the Pope has a better grasp of proper Grammar than does our Lord.

Seriously though, you have to pay attention to context rather than superficial semantics. It is simply asking that God prevent us from going astray. It would take a supreme idiot to interpret as God tempting us like the devil does.
12 posted on 06/04/2019 7:26:46 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Telepathic Intruder

“Luckily the Pope has a better grasp of proper Grammar than does our Lord.”

Seriously?


13 posted on 06/04/2019 7:32:54 PM PDT by marajade (Skywalker)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Well said.
Around here she could get nailed for “brandishing.”


14 posted on 06/04/2019 7:38:44 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Sta, si cum canibus magnis currere non potes, in portico.)
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To: marajade

No,


15 posted on 06/04/2019 7:43:39 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Mad Dawg; Telepathic Intruder
Oops.

Wrong thread. Must be the whiskey.

When I was in seminary it was taught not as sort of straight ahead moral temptation ... Milla Jovovich, tequila, you know how it is ... but any sort of “trial,” like famine, warfare, etc.

My personal paraphrase is, “Keep us out of trouble.”

Golly, this pope makes it hard ...

16 posted on 06/04/2019 7:43:48 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Sta, si cum canibus magnis currere non potes, in portico.)
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To: Mad Dawg; Telepathic Intruder
Oops.

Wrong thread. Must be the whiskey.

When I was in seminary it was taught not as sort of straight ahead moral temptation ... Milla Jovovich, tequila, you know how it is ... but any sort of “trial,” like famine, warfare, etc.

My personal paraphrase is, “Keep us out of trouble.”

Golly, this pope makes it hard ...

17 posted on 06/04/2019 7:43:50 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Sta, si cum canibus magnis currere non potes, in portico.)
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To: marshmallow

Our Father who art in heaven,
Hallowed be thy name.
Thy kingdom come.
Thy will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us,
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.

My Super Secret Anonymous Source still uses this version. WWG1WGA


18 posted on 06/04/2019 7:53:17 PM PDT by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: Mad Dawg
Yes, it took every bit of my moral fiber and Christian upbringing to resist Milla Jovovich that night when she showed up in her bandage bikini needing a hug...

But just as I was about to give in, she saw the look in my eyes and I saw the disgust in hers, and I narrowly escaped. Or maybe it was just when the whiskey wore off or I woke up.
19 posted on 06/04/2019 8:02:42 PM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: Telepathic Intruder

“In the land of Uz* there was a blameless and upright man named Job, who feared God and avoided evil.”


20 posted on 06/04/2019 8:38:44 PM PDT by freefdny
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