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[Cath Cauc] Francis criticizes traditionalist Catholics who 'safeguard the ashes' of the past
National Catholic Reporter ^ | June 2, 2019 | Joshua J. McElwee

Posted on 06/03/2019 4:03:11 PM PDT by ebb tide

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"There are Catholic groups who are a bit fundamentalist," said the pope. "We must tolerate it, praying for them, so that the Lord and the Holy Spirit soften their hearts a bit."

We have a pope who considers the preconciliar Catholic Church to be a heap of ashes.

1 posted on 06/03/2019 4:03:11 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; Biggirl; Coleus; DuncanWaring; ebb tide; Fedora; Hieronymus; irishjuggler; G Larry; ...

Ping


2 posted on 06/03/2019 4:03:49 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide
He calls 'em "ashes of the past" because he's all about burning them.
3 posted on 06/03/2019 4:05:40 PM PDT by rx (Truth Will Out!)
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To: ebb tide

OMG!! Find your CATHOLICISM, Pope!


4 posted on 06/03/2019 4:10:32 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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So, Francis, if you cut off the roots, what happens to the tree?
5 posted on 06/03/2019 4:26:39 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: Ann Archy

End of him.

Commie idiot.


6 posted on 06/03/2019 4:28:31 PM PDT by Check6
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To: ebb tide

well, it appears that the ‘Holy Spirit’ was certainly taking a siesta when Francis was ‘elected’


7 posted on 06/03/2019 4:57:40 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: faithhopecharity

I wouldn’t blame it on the Holy Spirit if I were you.


8 posted on 06/03/2019 5:08:05 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (It ain't what they don't know that's a problem, it's what they do know that ain't so." - Will Rogers)
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We were do Blessed with JPII and Benedict.

This guy is an outright idiot.


9 posted on 06/03/2019 5:12:46 PM PDT by rbmillerjr
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To: ebb tide

Pope Francis is a radical. He would have us toss the traditions of the Catholic Church so he can instill his radical beliefs in our heads and hearts. Tradition is a part of the Catholic faith. Think carefully when this questionable pope tells you to abandon tradition. He is really devious.


10 posted on 06/03/2019 5:17:45 PM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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What do I call it? Dumb, or diabolical? Incompetent, or satanically surreal? Brain lesion, or an intentional controlled demolition of Catholicism?

Tagline.

11 posted on 06/03/2019 5:21:02 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Tradition is not the worship of ashes, but the preservation of fire." - Gustav Mahler)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

The latter to each of your questions.


12 posted on 06/03/2019 5:23:32 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

So much heresy, so little time.


13 posted on 06/03/2019 5:25:39 PM PDT by piusv
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Cardinal Rodriguez Maradiaga: Pope wants to take "Church renovation" to "irreversible" point: Previous reforms were "insufficient, superficial", Church reform to be "deep and total".
14 posted on 06/03/2019 5:29:03 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

i don’t presume to blame anyone. but someones are at fault...

(and the Church claims the Cardinals are guided by the H.S.)
anyway, please forgive

its just that this pope is so..well, you know better than i


15 posted on 06/03/2019 5:39:11 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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(and the Church claims the Cardinals are guided by the H.S.)

Where does the Church claim that? And why is not every papal election unanimous on the first ballot?

16 posted on 06/03/2019 6:02:53 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

Prayers up for Holy Mother Church. Holy Spirit, remove this false pope.


17 posted on 06/03/2019 6:03:48 PM PDT by Bigg Red (WWG1WGA)
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To: ebb tide

Hi. There are lots of references to the HS in papal selection (while also acknowledging that cardinals have the free will to ignore the HS)—- just one is From JP2’s papal annunciation but references to the HS’s presence go back a long ways — for whatever it may be worth: over the age of eighty] in particular should lead the People of God assembled in the Patriarchal Basilicas of Rome and in other churches in the Dioceses throughout the world, supporting the work of the electors with fervent prayers and supplications to the Holy Spirit and imploring for them the light needed to make their choice before God alone and with concern only for the “salvation of souls, which in the Church must always be the supreme law”

In view of the sacredness of the act of election and thus the need for it to be carried out in an appropriate setting where, on the one hand, liturgical actions can be readily combined with juridical formalities, and where, on the other, the electors can more easily dispose themselves to accept the interior movements of the Holy Spirit, I decree that the election will continue to take place in the Sistine Chapel.

From the Pauline Chapel of the Apostolic Palace, where they will assemble at a suitable hour in the afternoon, the Cardinal electors, in choir dress, and invoking the assistance of the Holy Spirit with the chant of the Veni Creator, will solemnly process to the Sistine Chapel of the Apostolic Palace, where the election will be held.


18 posted on 06/03/2019 6:40:18 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ( “Politicians are not born; they are excreted.” Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: faithhopecharity

FHC, against all the rules clearly laid out by JPII, Cardinal Danneels organized and lead a cabal of like-minded cardinals. They openly lobbied for Jorge Bergolio before and during the last conclave. They got their man elected, perhaps in spite of the HS.


19 posted on 06/03/2019 6:52:32 PM PDT by pbear8 (the Lord is my light and my salvation)
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To: faithhopecharity
In view of the sacredness of the act of election and thus the need for it to be carried out in an appropriate setting where, on the one hand, liturgical actions can be readily combined with juridical formalities, and where, on the other, the electors can more easily dispose themselves to accept the interior movements of the Holy Spirit, I decree that the election will continue to take place in the Sistine Chapel.

Do you really believe the St Gallen Mafia disposed themselves to accept the interior movements of the Holy Ghost? To manipulate the election of one who is more concerned about hugging trees and muslims and diluting the Catholic Faith into some type of one- world homosexual rainbow than the salvation of souls?

To be frank (pun intended), I question the validity of Bergoglio's "election". The shenanigans behind it are public knowledge.

20 posted on 06/03/2019 7:06:55 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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