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Amir on the escalation in Gaza
Behold Israel YouTube Channel ^ | May 5, 2019 | Amir Tsarfati

Posted on 05/05/2019 6:32:50 PM PDT by firebrand

Amir's very latest on the Gaza rocket attacks. The conflict escalated after four Israelis were killed. Israel has not rushed to a ceasefire this time but is fighting back big-time. Amir expects the conflict to be over very shortly.


TOPICS: Current Events; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: cair; gaza; ilhanomar; israel; jerusalem; letshavejerusalem; palestinians; tanks; waronterror
There is one video, of a day ago, that I did not post yet. It has some interesting information, but is not as urgent as this one. I will post it on this thread after a while.
1 posted on 05/05/2019 6:32:51 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand
Some of the Times of Israel analysis is pretty insightful.

I do think there's something to the theory that Hamas is trying to extract a bribe in return for quiet before Eurovision and all of the important events happening this month.

2 posted on 05/05/2019 6:46:28 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: OddLane

Here’s an insightful analysis for you: Watch the HBO series “The Pacific”, learn what victory in war against savages requires, apply the lessons, defeat the Arabs once and for all, and until you do, STFU.


3 posted on 05/05/2019 6:50:46 PM PDT by Jim Noble (1)
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To: Lera; jbb247; monkeywrench; Bulldaddy; Mrs.Z; Aragon; RobinOfKingston; Mom MD; JudyinCanada; ...

The very latest on the Gaza situation.


4 posted on 05/05/2019 6:57:38 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: Jim Noble

Honest, that was one of the most anti Israel posts I have read in a long time.

As if they could do that and not be utterly and completely ostracized, even by the US.

Take back enough land to create a very large buffer and NEVER give the land back.

Kill everyone or STFU is just about the most worthless advice i’ve ever read.


5 posted on 05/05/2019 7:09:05 PM PDT by dp0622 (The Left should know if.. Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR)
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That wasn't what he was suggesting.

His point was that the Gaza disengagement was a strategic mistake.

It gave jihadists an unfettered space to plan attacks upon the heart of Israel.

And the continued subsidizing of Hamas is not doing anything to make Israel more secure.

6 posted on 05/05/2019 8:33:19 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: Jim Noble
Watch the HBO series “The Pacific”, learn what victory in war against savages requires, apply the lessons, defeat the Arabs once and for all, and until you do, STFU.

I still can't believe Snafu and Sledge, went on to play in Queen all those years later. ;)

7 posted on 05/05/2019 8:35:02 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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If the Israeli government and people are not prepared or not able to win their war, then they need to be prepared to leave.

That’s not a value judgement, it’s simple application of the lessons of history.


8 posted on 05/06/2019 2:56:28 AM PDT by Jim Noble (1)
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More than once, Amir has said that something the enemy does gives Israel the opportunity to settle the score by doing something that they wanted to do anyway but they were wary of world opinion.

He repeated this yesterday or the day before about Gaza.

And he has also said that Israel did not want the headache of governing the Gaza Strip any longer. He was the “mayor” (or whatever the equivalent term is) of Jericho at the time that Israel governed Gaza, and he is extremely well informed on the whole issue.

This makes me think that the whole issue is more complex than it seems to us. The whole conflict may be in a sense Israel’s defense on that particular border.


9 posted on 05/06/2019 9:17:04 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: Jim Noble; dp0622; OddLane; Lera; jbb247; monkeywrench; Bulldaddy; Mrs.Z; Aragon; ...
Here is the video previous, by one day, to the video that this thread is about. It may give a bit more perspective.

Also remember Amir will be in DC today, tomorrow, and/or Wednesday for a breakfast speech before a conservative caucus of Congress. I am guessing this is the Republican Study Committee (which is not a committee of Congress but a caucus, as most of you know), which is four times the size of the group he said he would be addressing but it may be only part of the caucus attending the breakfast. It is not open to the public so it will not be on CSPAN but I hope to hear about it somehow afterwards and what his speech covered.

10 posted on 05/06/2019 9:29:05 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand

Sorry. Forgot to delete the closing symbol.


11 posted on 05/06/2019 9:30:46 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand
And he has also said that Israel did not want the headache of governing the Gaza Strip any longer

Well then. What's the plan?

So far, the plan has been to make peace without conquest, with people who want you dead.

This is a failure. I see no evidence that Israel has the will to exterminate the Gaza population, or even to inflict so much terror and carnage that the survivors see the wisdom of peace.

Therefore.

Israel does not want to govern a hostile and reckless population, but the fantasy of peace without conquest is just that, a fantasy. So, as I see it, Israel can either undertake war on a massive scale against these people, savage and cruel war; or they can stay there forever and pay the price of constant low-level war against their civilians, or they can abandon the project and go elsewhere.

12 posted on 05/06/2019 9:46:58 AM PDT by Jim Noble (1)
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It will eventually be under Israeli control, one way or another, since it is part of the Promised Land.

Can’t predict exactly how this will happen.


13 posted on 05/06/2019 9:57:34 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: Jim Noble

I agree that Israel has no hostile intentions against the people. The basic problem is that the “Palestinians” want Israel gone. Their whole raison d’etre is based on hatred for Israel. So benevolence had no effect on them when Israel ruled Gaza and still has no effect. Basically, one side would like peace and the other side would like eradication.


14 posted on 05/06/2019 10:03:09 AM PDT by firebrand
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To: Lera; jbb247; monkeywrench; Bulldaddy; Mrs.Z; Aragon; RobinOfKingston; Mom MD; JudyinCanada; ...

See Amir’s Twitter account for a great photo of him with Rudy Giuliani in DC.


15 posted on 05/09/2019 12:59:07 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: OddLane

They usually get it from their Santa Claus in Qatar, but he was in that nasty old United States getting medical treatment last week, so the barrage went on and on and got worse and worse, until the Egyptians stepped in as usual and negotiated. Now the killers have their shakedown money.


16 posted on 05/09/2019 1:01:54 PM PDT by firebrand
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See Amir’s Twitter account for a great photo of him with Rudy Giuliani in DC.

I know you saw a great photo Amir and me, so he has my permission to have a photo taken with Rudy Giuliani. 😁😆😂🙃

17 posted on 05/09/2019 6:12:59 PM PDT by Mark17 (What, exactly, was the "only evil continually," that was going on in the days of Noah?)
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Only wonderful people get to have their picture taken with Amir, obviously!


18 posted on 05/09/2019 6:30:06 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand
Only wonderful people get to have their picture taken with Amir, obviously!

😁👍😆

19 posted on 05/09/2019 6:47:00 PM PDT by Mark17 (What, exactly, was the "only evil continually," that was going on in the days of Noah?)
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