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[Catholic Caucus] Vatican Reform Plan Takes Shape: Evangelization Prioritized Over Doctrine
National Catholic Register ^ | April 26, 2019 | Edward Pentin

Posted on 04/26/2019 7:31:14 PM PDT by ebb tide

[Catholic Caucus] Vatican Reform Plan Takes Shape: Evangelization Prioritized Over Doctrine

VATICAN CITY — Pope Francis’ new apostolic constitution for the Roman Curia is stirring up concerns as well as eager anticipation ahead of its expected publication in two months’ time.

The exact details of the document, called Praedicate Evangelium (Preach the Gospel), are unclear and are expected to remain so while bishops’ conference presidents and Vatican heads review it before its expected release on June 29.

But its content was spotlighted this week, after some media outlets reported on comments made about the document by two key members of the Pope’s Council of Cardinals in an upcoming April 27 article in the Spanish weekly magazine Vida Nueva. The council has been in charge of drafting the new document.

(Excerpt) Read more at ncregister.com ...


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology
KEYWORDS: doctrine; francischurch
But if, within such a stress on evangelization, it meant Church doctrine would not be emphasized at the same time, then that would not be a “true evangelization” as the Church’s doctrines “are at the heart of evangelization.”

“Without doctrine there is no evangelization!” he said.

Another “part of the problem,” Father Weinandy believes, is that Pope Francis “consistently uses the term ‘doctrine’ in a derogatory manner.”

1 posted on 04/26/2019 7:31:14 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Al Hitan; Biggirl; Coleus; DuncanWaring; ebb tide; Fedora; Hieronymus; irishjuggler; G Larry; ...

Ping


2 posted on 04/26/2019 7:37:15 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

The Father, Son and Holy Ghost has become the Blather, Bun and Holy Boast.


3 posted on 04/26/2019 7:37:28 PM PDT by Candor7 ((Obama Fascism)http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: ebb tide

Deliver us Lord.


4 posted on 04/26/2019 7:42:57 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt
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To: amihow

Jorge Bergoglio has granted audiences to practicing homosexuals, abortionists, atheists, etc.

He has made no attempt to “evangelize” any of them.

It has now been 949 days since he was presented with the dubia from the four cardinals; he has not granted either of the two surviving cardinals with an audience in that time span. The dubia was about “doctrine”. Go figure.


6 posted on 04/26/2019 8:01:08 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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Not photoshopped

7 posted on 04/26/2019 8:09:04 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: amihow

It’s easier to evangelize if there’s no doctrine.


8 posted on 04/26/2019 8:11:37 PM PDT by sparklite2 (Don't mind me. I'm just a contrarian.)
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To: sparklite2
It’s easier to evangelize if there’s no doctrine.

On the contrary, it's very hard to evangelize without supporting doctrine.

9 posted on 04/26/2019 8:37:56 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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Play "Find the Cross" with "Pope" Francis!
10 posted on 04/26/2019 8:47:27 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome)
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To: ebb tide

Yes, we will be evangelizing people to . . . something.


11 posted on 04/26/2019 10:08:47 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This Space For Rant)
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To: sparklite2
It’s easier to evangelize if there’s no doctrine.

Sure it is. Just encourage people to accept Jesus. If they they ask who Jesus is, tell them, "Whatever."

12 posted on 04/26/2019 10:10:22 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (This Space For Rant)
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To: ebb tide

Without Doctrine what is the goal of evangelization? You have to join the Church to find out what’s in it? Did Francis get advice from Cardinal Pelosi?


13 posted on 04/27/2019 1:34:36 AM PDT by arthurus (fghjklo)
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To: sparklite2

You have to bring the good news of the Gospel FIRST.


14 posted on 04/27/2019 6:10:37 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: sparklite2

Because if the call for the need for “repentance and conversion” does not go out first, the “doctrine” part CANNOT FOLLOW.


15 posted on 04/27/2019 6:13:52 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: Biggirl

ARE ISLAM-O-ISTS REJECTING GOD AND GOD’S GIFTS ???
DENYING FREE WILL TO OBEY GODS LAWS
WHAT IS MORE PLEASING TO GOD ??
VOLUNTARY ACCEPTANCE OF GOD’S WORD AND LAWS ?
OR TERROR THROUGH PENALTY OF DEATH CONFORMITY
DOES NOT THE VERY ACT ENFORCING CONFORMITY
DENY THE VERY PRESENCE OF GOD ?
GODS RIGHT TO JUDGEMENT ?, AND GODS WILL?

http://www.theusmat.com/islamandfreewill.htm


16 posted on 04/27/2019 6:24:48 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L,J,Keslin posting here for the record)
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To: mosesdapoet

What are you talking about?


17 posted on 04/27/2019 6:53:17 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: ebb tide; amihow
I just ran across this quote from G.K. Chesterton, which I think is apt. Keep in mind that he wrote it in 1910, and apply it to the "aristocrats" of the Church:

" The god of the aristocrats is not tradition, but fashion, which is the opposite of tradition. If you wanted to find an old-world Norwegian head-dress, would you look for it in the Scandinavian Smart Set? No; the aristocrats never have customs; at the best they have habits, like the animals. Only the mob has customs.

"The real power of the English aristocrats [insert: the Vatican clerical bureaucracy] has lain in exactly the opposite of tradition. The simple key to the power of our upper classes is this: that they have always kept carefully on the side of what is called Progress.

"They have always been up to date, and this comes quite easy to an aristocracy. For the aristocracy are the supreme instances of that frame of mind of which we spoke just now. Novelty is to them a luxury verging on a necessity. They, above all, are so bored with the past and with the present, that they gape, with a horrible hunger, for the future."


18 posted on 04/27/2019 7:50:25 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Let us commend ourselves, and one another, and our whole life, unto Christ Our God.")
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To: ebb tide

WTF???

Pope Karnac?


19 posted on 04/27/2019 8:21:52 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Interesting as always from GKC. It certainly is true, that many of the “elite” are bored. But many people have an insatiable need to “belong”and so are driven to the current and trendy group think. I think we see that lots of places, even in the Church.


20 posted on 04/27/2019 9:18:57 AM PDT by amihow (Nd)
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