Posted on 02/21/2019 5:47:28 PM PST by lightman
Therefore:
Lutheran (EL C S*A) Ping!
* as of August 19, AD 2009, a liberal protestant SECT, not part of the holy, catholic and apostolic CHURCH.
Be rooted in Christ!
NOTE: The August 19 date pertains to the adoption of gay agenda policies, NOT the UMC agreement!
“The challenge is simply that there are some nations where homosexuality is taboo.”
The challenge is simply that there are some nations where homosexuality REMAINS taboo. They didn’t change.
Freegards
I left the UMC a long time ago. This is so simple: Does anything in the Bible prohibit sodomy? If the answer is yes, case closed.
The UMC has already admitted that they can’t find any Biblical prohibitions against sodomy and abortions. Absolutely ridiculous. So, I didn’t leave the UMC . . . the UMC left me.
It has turned into a Godless organization more concerned about marketing and not having to “offend” any of their parishioners.
Wonder if these folks have EVER asked God about His decision on homosexuality? I guess they think the Bible, as God’s Word, just meant it was bad during the Moses days. And, those other mentions Old and New Testament, well just tear that out and make their own Bible!!!!!! Sorry folks, for ALL, the Bible is whole and God’s, not man’s to rewrite!
Please, Holy Spirit, move these souls to hear and vote YOUR spirit, not theirs and make their evil implode upon them so they turn back to the Triune Godhead. Amen.
“About 30 percent of the delegates in St. Louis will be from Africa — a bloc with relatively conservative views on sexuality that in the past has supported the LGBT bans.”
Agree - Africans don’t mess around on this issue, they’re not like spoiled white westerners who see sex as some kind of game.
lukewarm, like Laodicea.
Were you aware of this happening?
The Untied Methodists, LOL
The UMC won’t “spit.”
Few Methodists have strong beliefs in anything...
When does being more "modern" and "accepting" turn into a sell-out?
As for Bishop Oliveto, her sexual orientation doesn't bother me half-as much as her accusing Jesus of bigotry in the story of the Samaritan woman at the well.
“Agree - Africans don’t mess around on this issue, they’re not like spoiled white westerners who see sex as some kind of game.”
Africans are still on the front line of AIDS. They have learned that the A-B-C-Ds are a matter of life and death.
A = Abstain, or if you can’t
B = Be faithful and use a
C = Condom — OR ELSE — you WILL
D = DIE
Please explain...maybe a link?
Replace "UMC" with "ELCA" and that is the (very) short version of why I am Greek Orthodox.
https://www.afa.net/the-stand/culture/2017/10/methodist-bishop-thinks-jesus-was-a-bigot/
Just curious - how do they spin "You shall not lie with a man as with a woman"?
We all know where this is going, don’t we? ELCA provides the example.
Not sure about that one, but my former UMC minister said that God destroyed Sodom & Gomorrah due to a lack of hospitality, not rampant homosexuality. She is a big lefty.
Not exactly...the key difference as I quoted in bold in the initial post is that the African churches are part of the voters of this Conference.
Or, put another way, would the ELCA have been able to vote as it did by a razor thin margin if the Voting Members in Minneapolis had included Tanzanians and Ugandans?
I don't know whether the votes require a simple majority or supermajority...my memory is hazy but I believe ammending the Book of Discipline requires 2/3. Since the Africans are unlikely to vote to remove the "incompatible with Christian teaching" language the only chance for change would be if every single US delegate voted to amend. Unlikely.
Homosexuality, like adultery, is clearly condemned in scripture. I won’t get further into that here, but we Christians are admonished to not even associate with people who claim to be believers but are unrepentant, sexually immoral. Read 1 Corinthians 5:11.
Scripture is quite clear, and what do believers do? They keep God’s word!
1 John 2:4-6
UMC members who practice and approve of unrepentant sexual sin—including homosexuality—are not believers. They deny Christ. Simple fact.
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