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Pastor Rick Warren Talks to New York Priests About Maintaining Moral Integrity
Catholic New York ^ | 6/20/2018 | JOHN WOODS

Posted on 01/28/2019 1:54:04 PM PST by Gamecock

Nearly 800 New York Catholic priests received a message about how to maintain their moral integrity from Pastor Rick Warren, who used Scripture passages and his experiences from 40 years as an Evangelical Christian pastor, to speak personally to fellow pastors.

His talk, “Maintaining the Moral Integrity of the Ministry to Which God Has Called Us,” was delivered during the archdiocese’s biennial Safe Environment Convocation at St. Joseph’s Seminary in Dunwoodie June 6-7.

“Brothers, what we do matters more than what anybody else does in the world,” said Pastor Warren at the outset of his presentation.

“That’s because the only thing that’s going to last on the planet is the Church of Jesus Christ.”

He said the job description for a pastor can be boiled down to three basic criteria: having a message worth remembering, a lifestyle worth considering and a faith worth imitating.

“That’s our calling,” he said simply.

Pastor Warren, author of the best-selling book “The Purpose Driven Life,” is the founder and longtime senior pastor of Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, Calif., one of the largest religious congregations in the United States.

The pastor told the archdiocesan and religious order priests before him that, in his four decades of ministry, he has conducted training sessions with 480,000 pastors in 160 countries. He noted that there were at least “a dozen homilies” in the handout materials he was providing. “I willingly give this away to you…Use whatever you can. We are all in this together.”

The context for his discussion with the priests was that Satan has no new temptations. The three worldly temptations are outlined in 1 John 2:15-17, which says, “Do not love the world or the things of the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, sensual lust, enticement for the eyes and a pretentious way of life, is not from Father but is from the world. Yet the world and its enticement are passing away. But whoever does the will of God remains forever.”

The temptations can be boiled down to passions (pleasure), possessions and positions (power, prestige).

Antidotes to the three temptations are integrity, generosity and humility.

To illustrate the importance of the virtue of integrity in a pastor’s life, Pastor Warren said, “All leadership is built on trust, not title.” The first thing that happens when you go to apply for a loan is the bank runs a credit check to see if you are credit-worthy, he said.

“The people in my congregation do a credit check on me 24 hours a day,” the pastor said. “If I betray their trust, then I forfeit my right to lead them.”

Early in his presentation, Pastor Warren told the priests, “We need all of you to make it to the finish line,” with their integrity completely intact.

Later, he gave them an eight-step guide to protect themselves so they can accomplish that goal. He suggested sharing it with their staffs and parish leaders.

The third item on the list was to “know” their personal patterns of temptation, so they can be avoided. The priests were given a checklist of questions to consider:

• When am I most tempted?

• Where am I most tempted?

• Who is with me when I am most tempted?

• What temporary benefit do I get if I give in?

• How do I feel right before I am tempted?

Pastor Warren shared openly about “the worst day of my life,” when his youngest son, Matthew, committed suicide in 2013. The Cardinal Spellman Center, where the convocation was held, became pin-drop quiet, as he told the priests about the 16 weeks he went without preaching or teaching. He said he spent 12 hours a day alone with God.

“If I hadn’t handled my grief well, I would have been very vulnerable to temptations,” the pastor explained.

Pastor Warren, speaking briefly with CNY following his talk, said Christians must stick together in a world that is taking on an increasingly secular outlook. “We’re on the same team,” he said. “The enemy is not other believers.”

Father Francis Samoylo, pastor of St. Columbanus parish in Cortlandt Manor, said he likes the strategies Pastor Warren offered for dealing with temptation.

“We all have temptations,” Father Samoylo said. “The idea of refocusing and replacing that temptation with something else was good. You think about resisting temptation, but that keeps the temptation in your presence.”

Msgr. Leslie Ivers, director of ongoing priestly formation in the archdiocese, called Pastor Warren’s presentation “the best talk we’ve ever had.”

“He loves Christ and he loves the Church. That’s what we all need to be about.”


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To: New Perspective

maybe this guy:

http://superiorword.org/


21 posted on 01/28/2019 5:36:36 PM PST by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: Pelham

Jealousy is never pretty. Work on it.


22 posted on 01/28/2019 5:43:02 PM PST by Dave W
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To: Thank You Rush

‘I was waiting to read something about “sin”’

Ha. That would be a long wait.

Warrenism is often more about what’s missing than what’s flat out wrong. Although he sometimes manages to do both.


23 posted on 01/28/2019 5:43:35 PM PST by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: Dave W

If you’re attempting to be clever you’re missing the mark.


24 posted on 01/28/2019 5:44:24 PM PST by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: YogicCowboy
I may disagree with you on this.

Abraham

Wealth was measured in a few ways in biblical times: cattle, land and actual currency like gold and silver. Abraham had all of that in huge numbers, and once even had to split some of his land with his nephew Lot because, as Genesis 13 puts it, “their possessions were so great that they were not able to stay together” (and as Biggie put it, “more money, more problems).

Isaac

Isaac inherited his father’s wealth and it continued to expand, to the point where the Philistines once politely asked him to move because he’d gotten “too powerful” (Genesis 26:16). Isaac moved, but he couldn’t seem to stop accumulating wealth. As God told him in Genesis 26:24, “I am the God of your father Abraham. Do not be afraid, for I am with you; I will bless you and will increase the number of your descendants for the sake of my servant Abraham.”

Job

This one’s a little complicated because Job is most famous for the relatively brief period of his life in which he had nothing except misery. But that instructive season was bookended by a time during which the Bible calls him “the greatest of all the men of the east.” He held an early record for richest man in the hemisphere—a record he apparently later broke, when God gave Job back double the amount that he’d lost.

Solomon

Wisdom. Wealth. Solomon truly had it all, including a number of wives that might be charitably described as, uh, “plenty.” 2 Chronicles 9:20 describes Solomon as being so rich that silver literally lost all value. In 1 Kings 10:10, the Queen of Sheba—not exactly impoverished herself—went on a sightseeing tour of Solomon’s lands just to see if the rumors were true. His name is still associated with money today, and at least a few Crusades set out with the express purpose of finding and reclaiming his vast wealth.

Joseph

One of the Bible’s most famous rags to riches stories, Joseph was a rich kid who was sold by his brothers into slavery. Then he ended up in jail and then, well, he became the second most powerful person in the ancient world’s most powerful country, Egypt. Joseph had a head for economics and used his savvy to prepare Egypt for a drought God had warned Pharaoh about in a dream.

25 posted on 01/28/2019 6:11:21 PM PST by New Perspective (Proud father of a son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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To: Pelham

Thank you for the link, I will look at it.


26 posted on 01/28/2019 6:11:47 PM PST by New Perspective (Proud father of a son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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To: SENTINEL

Interesting, thank you for posting that. I will definitely look into this.


27 posted on 01/28/2019 6:13:56 PM PST by New Perspective (Proud father of a son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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To: Pelham

No, I’m not trying to be clever. I’m quite serious.


28 posted on 01/28/2019 6:20:04 PM PST by Dave W
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To: Dave W

“No, I’m not trying to be clever.”

Ah. I see. Well at least you’re succeeding there.

I guess if I was in competition with Rick Warren then your accusation of jealousy could make sense. Since I’m not, it doesn’t. You should try finding a more fitting denigration for my low opinion of the Church Growth Movement and Rick Warrenism.

Do you find Rick Warren’s long time association with Peter Drucker at all curious?

I used to read Drucker, he wrote some great stuff on modern management theory. But nothing at all on Christianity, unless someone’s idea of the church is to be General Motors with a growing bottom line and a cross stapled over the door.


29 posted on 01/28/2019 6:45:25 PM PST by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: Pelham
Well, in this country of hate often led by some people here, Warren does more in one day to advance Christ than you will ever do in a lifetime. Bigness, in and of itself is not bad.

Shouldn't you be spending your time evangelizing instead of condemning?

30 posted on 01/28/2019 10:40:39 PM PST by Dave W
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I walked out of a bible study years ago that was using his book. They were mad at me for judging him, but all one has to do is read the Bible and see for yourself.


31 posted on 01/29/2019 4:58:09 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: New Perspective

God’s word speaks truth.


32 posted on 01/29/2019 5:00:30 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: New Perspective
I think if you have listened to Rick Warren as much as I have you will clearly notice a difference.

So, how's that Chrislam working out for him? I stopped paying any attention at all to Rick Warren when he laid down with the muslims.

The pastor at the church I used to attend was a personal friend of Warren's and he distanced himself from him when "Chrislam" started up ....

Rick Warren is lost. Sorry.

33 posted on 01/29/2019 5:01:19 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Didn’t he tell his flock that Obama was the “real deal”?

Yes he did. That should've told everyone all they needed to know about Warren.

34 posted on 01/29/2019 5:02:21 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: usconservative

That is very sad to hear. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, I will look into this. Thank you.


35 posted on 01/29/2019 7:10:28 AM PST by New Perspective (Proud father of a son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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To: Dave W

You’re fooling yourself, insult boy. There’s a reason that Lukewarm Rick chose for his mentor the existentialist non-believer Peter Drucker.

It’s all about the marketing. Adjust the “message” to the marketing survey and reward the customer’s felt needs. It seems to have worked on you. Walmart would be impressed.

https://tinyurl.com/ycs7al3g


36 posted on 01/29/2019 7:27:41 AM PST by Pelham (Secure Voter ID. Mexico has it, because unlike us they take voting seriously)
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To: Pelham

You haven’t addressed my post at all.


37 posted on 01/29/2019 9:43:42 AM PST by Dave W
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To: Pelham

You haven’t addressed my post at all. I wasn’t insulting, either.


38 posted on 01/29/2019 11:10:56 AM PST by Dave W
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To: New Perspective
This was the same year that Franklin Graham was disinvited from the national prayer breakfast. Skip to 4:05 for the blasphemy.

Warren praying to the phony islamic "jesus" at Obama's inauguration

39 posted on 01/29/2019 12:20:40 PM PST by SENTINEL (Kneel down to God. Stand up to tyrants. STICK TO YOUR GUNS !)
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To: SENTINEL

Thank you for taking the time to post this. I had no idea he spoke at zero’s fake inauguration, I did not watch a second of it. I am truly disappointed in Rick.


40 posted on 01/29/2019 2:37:09 PM PST by New Perspective (Proud father of a son with Down Syndrome and fighting to keep him off Obama's death panels.)
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