Posted on 01/18/2019 7:50:35 AM PST by ebb tide
Update Jan. 18, 2019: St. Joan of Arc pulled the video this morning of the two homosexual men giving their pre-Mass presentation. We are now using a source for the video provided by Complicit Clergy.
MINNEAPOLIS, MN, January 17, 2019 (LifeSiteNews) – A parish priest in Minnesota gave the pulpit to a same-sex “married” couple in a pre-Mass presentation last Sunday, allowing the two men to showcase their homosexual partnership, which included a child whom they said was conceived by IVF and carried to term via surrogacy.
Alan Nachtigal and Blake Wilson were legally “married” to each other in Minneapolis in September 2014. On January 13, 2019, the two men were introduced as speakers to the St. Joan of Arc Catholic Community by parish staffer “JP” before the day’s Sunday Mass. St. Joan of Arc parish, where Fr. Jim DeBruycker is pastor and Fr. James Cassidy is parochial vicar, often features pre-Mass presentations on Sundays, accompanied by art and music.
The homosexual men had with them one-year-old Cohen, a child whom they said was conceived by IVF (in vitro fertilization) and who was brought to term by means of a surrogate mother.
A video of their presentation was published on YouTube via the parish website and was introduced by the description: “On the Baptism of our Lord Sunday, parishioners Alan Nachtigal and Blake Wilson share their journey to bring their son, Cohen, into the Catholic faith through Baptism.”
The congregation laughed and applauded Wilson’s take on a LGBT cliché when he broke the ice by saying, “Just like Jesus, Cohen also had two dads, and He turned out pretty great.”
The Archbishop of Saint Paul and Minneapolis responded swiftly to LifeSiteNews for a request for a statement.
“I have reviewed the video of the presentation made before Mass at the parish of St. Joan of Arc in Minneapolis by a same-sex couple about the decision to baptize their child, conceived through in-vitro fertilization,” Archbishop Bernard Hebda told LifeSiteNews via email.
“I am deeply concerned that the presentation would have incorrectly suggested to those in attendance that the Catholic Church approves of same-sex marriage, in vitro fertilization, or surrogacy,” he continued.
Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, the Church teaches that homosexual acts are “acts of grave depravity” and are “intrinsically disordered” since they are “contrary to the natural law” in that they “close the sexual act to the gift of life.”
“Under no circumstances can they be approved,” states the Catechism of the Catholic Church.
The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith warned in a 2003 document that the Church’s call for “respect, compassion and sensitivity” for persons with same-sex attraction can never lead to approval of their actions or partnerships.
“The homosexual inclination is however ‘objectively disordered’ and homosexual practices are ‘sins gravely contrary to chastity.’ … The Church teaches that respect for homosexual persons cannot lead in any way to approval of homosexual behaviour or to legal recognition of homosexual unions,” stated the document titled “Considerations regarding proposals to give legal recognition to unions between homosexual persons.”
St. Peter Damian, an 11th century Italian Catholic reformer and Doctor of the Church, described homosexuality in his famous Book of Gomorrah as a “diabolical” corruption of God’s plan for sexuality between a man and a woman. Homosexuality must not only be not tolerated, but it must be condemned and stamped out, he wrote.
The Church also teaches about the grave immorality of in vitro fertilization and the exploitation of women as surrogates.
Hebda, who is in Washington D.C. for the March for Life, said that he expects the “fullness” of the Catholic faith to be proclaimed in his diocese.
“While I challenge our pastors and laity to be serious about accompanying all who come to the Church for an encounter with Christ, I also expect our parishes to be places where the fullness of our faith is boldly proclaimed,” he said.
"The Archdiocese has already contacted the pastor of the parish in question and I will be meeting with him and parish leadership to discuss this situation when I return,” he added.
According to the Saint Joan of Arc (SJA) parish website, “For many decades, our gifted pre-Mass guest speakers have been an inspirational component of St. Joan of Arc Gym liturgies. Our pre-Mass guest speakers bring singular witness stories to SJA, sharing their journey, their hope and their challenge with our community. Our guest speakers reflect the message of the Gospels and their prophetic voices educate and inspire us on critical issues in our neighborhood, our world and our Church.”
During the presentation, the two men said that they had not expected to baptize any babies they might someday “have.” They related how they felt welcomed and accepted by St. Joan of Arc parish and decided to start attending services.
“It was a different service than what we were used to,” Nachtigal said. “...I know my mom likes John Lennon, but I don’t know what she thought of singing ‘Imagine’ during church.” One of the verses of the song asks listeners to imagine "there's no heaven" and a world with "no religion."
While the two men attempted to become parents through IVF and the use of a surrogate, “faith” led them back to St. Joan of Arc, they said, where they saw a “Lesbian couple and their children doing the prayer offering.” This led them to decide the church community was their spiritual home. Wilson observed that the topics regularly discussed at St Joan of Arc, like “Equality”, really resonate with them.
Wilson spoke in frank detail about their attempts to have a child without any reference to the Roman Catholic Church’s absolute ban on in vitro fertilization and the exploitation of women as surrogates. Cohen was conceived on the men’s fourth attempt at IVF. Both men spoke, without embarrassment, of having been “pregnant” with the child carried by the never-named woman.
After the seven-minute presentation, in which Wilson and Nachtigal praised the parish community for giving them a sense of home, love, and acceptance, the congregation gave them a standing ovation as the cantor sang “Come Be Baptized”.
New Ways Ministries, a group which seeks to change Catholic doctrine on sexuality, has endorsed St. Joan of Arc as a “LGBT-friendly” community, meaning that it has made a “public display of welcome for LGBT people.” St. Joan of Arc has been the flashpoint of many controversies in the Archdiocese of Saint Paul and Minneapolis regarding ministry to people with same-sex attractions. In 2008, for example, there was a scandal when Bishop Nienstedt told the community it could not have a Gay Pride prayer service. A commitment to LGBT “rights” was fostered in the community by the late Father Harvey Egan, who credited feminist Gloria Steinem for helping him develop the parish.
This is not the first time Nachtigal has trotted out the child Cohen in public. After giving the then-unborn child the initials “CKNW”, he contacted CKNW radio station to inform them. After “CKNW the Kid” was born, Alan gave an interview to “The Lynda Steele Show”.
Contact information for respectful communications:
Archbishop Bernard Hebda
Office of The Archbishop
777 Forest Street
Saint Paul MN 55106
Phone: (651) 291-4400
Email: archbishop@archspm.org
Or use online contact form here.
Fr. Jim DeBruycker
Pastor of St. Joan of Arc
Email: jdebruycker@stjoan.com
Ph: 612.823.8205 Ext. 224
Source? Fr. Z says the number is more like one in ten, which is too high, but not the same thing as 1 in three.
At least “they’re” open about their intentions; there’s no ambiguity in how to “deal” with them...
Their mouthpieces tell us every day what they intend for us.
One has only to listen.
When someone tells you they’re going to do something to you, believe it. They mean it.
“Source? Fr. Z says the number is more like one in ten, which is too high, but not the same thing as 1 in three.”
There are various estimates I’ve read. The church sources seem to minimize the estimates.
If it is only 1/10, they are exceedingly active at assaulting children.
Have you seen an estimate of how many gays work at the Vatican?
“The research and investigations being conducted back in 2000, both from the clerical organization and secular media outlets, began unearthing disturbing parallels. Priests and even bishops were dying from AIDS at an alarming rate. In 1995, New York auxiliary bishop Emerson Moore died of AIDS in a Minnesota hospice. Across the country, estimates from assorted experts put the number of Catholic priests dying from the disease at as high as 1,000 in roughly a 10–15 year span. Numbers were showing that priests were becoming infected and dying at a rate of as high as 10 times the national average.
“All this strongly suggested that the number of homosexual men in the Catholic priesthood was much higher than even the most suspicious had guessed. It wasn’t long before the truth started coming out, tied as it was to the AIDS death news.
“Numerous independent sources inside the Church began polling and interviewing and questioning and researching. Their results were jaw-dropping. One survey done by a New Jersey Franciscan priest and researcher revealed that 45 percent of 500 priests surveyed volunteered that they were gaym and that one in four of them had AIDS — proving a rampant promiscuity.
“Over the years, a large number of surveys, polls and research have produced a wide range of estimates of the percentage of men in the ranks of the ordained who are homosexual: as low as 15 percent all the way up to 58 percent. That compares to the overall national percentage of about 1.5 percent.
“Even if the lowball estimate of 15 percent of priests are gay is right, it would still be 10 times the national average. And if the high end is closer to reality, then over half of all men in the priesthood and episcopate are homosexual, and would represent a population almost 50 times the national average.
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https://www.churchmilitant.com/video/episode/half-of-priests-and-bishops-are-gay
Just like in 1933.
I’d say more like the 1920s, Soviet Union.
And their henchmen, fellow travelers, agent provocateurs, and democrat apologists here in the United States.
Anyone who asserts the homo Novus Ordo priest percentage is only 10% is (at best) living in a dream world.
“Given Michael Voris, head of Church Militant, came out recently as a homosexual, he’s certainly not biased in his reporting of this topic.”
Expert witness!
Like a wise man once told me: “National Socialism vs. International Socialism”.
Two sides of the same coin...which must be destroyed.
:^)... yeah... I remember that conversation. One of many...
They’re both scum ultimately.
Yes they are.
The “Pope” needs to be defrocked.
I assume you are illiterate, by your confrontational reflexive defense of the hierarchy.
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