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Rome's Revision of the Lord's Prayer and the Coming Hour of Testing
Unsealed ^ | 12-17-2-18 | Jeff

Posted on 12/18/2018 6:55:36 AM PST by amessenger4god

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To: PeterPrinciple

A new covenant where we approach the Throne of Grace through our one and only mediator Jesus Christ. Not priests, nor saints, nor Mary


41 posted on 12/18/2018 6:46:14 PM PST by Mom MD ( .)
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To: ealgeone

The Marine part of is more likely to launch into my 27 year immersion in artful profanity but the Holy Spirit has helped me reduce the frequency and amplitude of my more off-color speech. Should my rants slip into something more readily applied during Boot Camp, then at that time I will have to ask your (and God’s) forgiveness.

The original post was a disorganized and incoherent and largely anti-Catholic screed. You should expect that any Catholic above room temperature will take issue - you would likely take issue if I started babbling anti- Protestant tripe. (And if I did so, I would be a blowhard, right?)

Whomever wrote this post imagines himself to be an authority on the Bible, faith and Catholicism. He is, by definition, self-appointed and in addition, pompous and annoying.

That you have decided to support his scribblings is disappointing. It is also disappointing that you also get going with the ad hominems right out of the gate. (”Junior” - really?) it’s also disappointing that this author is yet another “christian” that thinks that best way to faith is to attack other Christians. I’ve seen a lot of that on the FreeRepublic and it is surprising and disappointing.

I am very happy and proud of my Catholic faith - and you should never expect a quiescent response when we’re attacked.


42 posted on 12/18/2018 7:05:16 PM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Salvation

This was posted as an open discussion thread.

Discussion is to be expected.


43 posted on 12/18/2018 7:08:20 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: aMorePerfectUnion; Jim Robinson

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3713751/posts

The thread is about prayer.

Read the link from Jim Robinson about TROLLS.


44 posted on 12/18/2018 7:56:39 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Mom MD

When they don’t stick to the topic of the thread and post other things, aren’t they being a TROLL?


45 posted on 12/18/2018 7:58:19 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

I don’t believe you made this a Devotional thread, or a Caucus thread, did you?

Maybe you can still change it if you do not want to discuss the topic - or also, you might be able to make it an Ecumenical thread.

Merry Christmas!


46 posted on 12/18/2018 8:55:52 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Salvation; ealgeone; Chainmail
The thread is about prayer. Read the link from Jim Robinson about TROLLS.

Did you just forget to include the other poster who was arguing and being a TROLL???

47 posted on 12/18/2018 9:05:21 PM PST by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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To: Salvation; ealgeone
ealgeone

Not everyone sees it that way.

It's not a prayer thread, per se, as in someone asking prayer as a prayer request.

It's a discussion of what the pope is trying to do in regard to changing the meaning of Scripture. And while the Scripture concerned deal with the Lord's Prayer, it would be no different than if the passage of Scripture were about something else.

Not everyone who has a different opinion than the poster is a troll.

The accusation of *troll* ought not to be used as a weapon with which to silence people.

48 posted on 12/19/2018 4:22:51 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Mom MD

Ditto that, mom.


49 posted on 12/19/2018 4:24:00 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: PeterPrinciple

AMEN!!!


50 posted on 12/19/2018 4:24:31 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Salvation; metmom

And yet it wasn’t labeled as a caucys/devotional.


51 posted on 12/19/2018 4:27:40 AM PST by Gamecock (In church today, we so often find we meet only the same old world, not Christ and His Kingdom. AS)
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To: boatbums; ealgeone

Or could it be considered that someone who accuses others of being a troll is also troll like behavior?

I mean really, just how far could this back and forth accusation be taken?

When everyone is a troll, no one is a troll.


52 posted on 12/19/2018 4:28:05 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: Gamecock

AND........ it wasn’t labeled as a prayer thread either, even though part of the discussion is about a prayer.


53 posted on 12/19/2018 4:31:27 AM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: nikos1121
I think I agree with him. I don’t like the verse in question either.

Right. Because Scripture is *only* useful when we *like* it.

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54 posted on 12/19/2018 4:32:59 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: metmom; amessenger4god; Jim Robinson

It looks like the OP put this out for discussion, not as a caucus/devotion/prayer/ecumenical post, contrary to the opinions of others.

Personally, I hope Mr. Robinson’s message was not to be use as a cudgel to bash, silence, or purge those who disagree with Roman Catholism.


55 posted on 12/19/2018 5:09:17 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: ShadowAce

“And lead us not into temptation.”

Makes no sense to me. I’m pleading with God not to lead me into temptation, or Let’s not lead each other into temptation?

I’m not sure if I agree with the Pope’s either, but let’s go back to the original Greek and see what the verse should be.


56 posted on 12/19/2018 5:52:06 AM PST by nikos1121 (With Trump, we have our own Age of Pericles)
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To: Campion; EagleOne
SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE! However, nobody prior to the 19th Century believed in the "secret rapture," so clearly evangelical Protestantism does, and will, change.

Would you change your mind if you were proven to be wrong??? Of course you wouldn't...You guys have been shown time and time again and yet you still swallow the same swill yur religiun pours out......

Old Ephraim, a Catholic Saint clearly understood and believed in the pre-Tribulation Rapture as did many of your so-called church Fathers and Doctors...

Ephraim The Syrian

Ephraim (306 AD – 373 AD)
“We ought to understand thoroughly therefore, my brothers, what is imminent or overhanging. Already there have been hunger and plagues, violent movements of nations and signs, which have been predicted by the Lord, they have already been fulfilled (consummated), and there is not other which remains, except the advent of the wicked one in the completion of the Roman kingdom. Why therefore are we occupied with worldly business, and why is our mind held fixed on the lusts of the world or on the anxieties of the ages? Why therefore do we not reject every care of worldly business, and why is our mind held fixed on the lusts of the world or on the anxieties of the ages? Why therefore do we not reject every care of earthly actions and prepare ourselves for the meeting of the Lord Christ, so that he may draw us from the confusion, which overwhelms all the world? Believe you me, dearest brother, because the coming (advent) of the Lord is nigh, believe you me, because the end of the world is at hand, believe me, because it is the very last time.

Or do you not believe unless you see with your eyes? See to it that this sentence be not fulfilled among you of the prophet who declares: “Woe to those who desire to see the day of the Lord!”

For all the saints and elect of God are gathered, prior to the tribulation that is to come, and are taken to the Lord lest they see the confusion that is to overwhelm the world because of our sins. And so, brothers most dear to me, it is the eleventh hour, and the end of the world comes to the harvest, and angels, armed and prepared, hold sickles in their hands, awaiting the empire of the Lord. And we think that the earth exists with blind infidelity, arriving at its downfall early. Commotions are brought forth, wars of diverse peoples and battles and incursions of the barbarians threaten, and our regions shall be desolated, and we neither become very much afraid of the report nor of the appearance, in order that we may at least do penance; because they hurl fear at us, and we do not wish to be changed, although we at least stand in need of penance for our actions!”

Taken from Here...

57 posted on 12/19/2018 5:52:22 AM PST by Iscool
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To: metmom
AND........ it wasn’t labeled as a prayer thread either, even though part of the discussion is about a prayer.

Exactly...The thread isn't a prayer thread or even about prayer...It's about the fake religion changing scripture that has been accepted for a couple thousand years...I think WE have been Trolled...It's like watching CNN...

58 posted on 12/19/2018 6:02:31 AM PST by Iscool
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To: nikos1121
I’m not sure if I agree with the Pope’s either, but let’s go back to the original Greek and see what the verse should be.

Over 25 Lexicons and 2 Millennium of the best Greek scholars the World has had to offer and now your pope is going to 'one-up' 'em???

59 posted on 12/19/2018 6:06:33 AM PST by Iscool
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To: Iscool

I just said, let’s go back to the original Greek text and see what it says... “Lead us not into temptation.” You tell me what it means.


60 posted on 12/19/2018 6:17:41 AM PST by nikos1121 (With Trump, we have our own Age of Pericles)
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