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To: I got the rope
I honestly don't think Trump is all that religious, much as it might upset some here to think. When he talked about going to church and getting "the cracker" I began to think that.

All that said, ever since Pope Benedict needlessly changed the words to the creed, I don't recite it in mass either. Because I do it from memory and keep messing it up. I just can't get the new phrases that change nothing meaningful yet destroy my own ability to say it properly. I can't read along because that requires my reading glasses and I don't carry them readily available in church. So I say the first few lines, that sort of drop to a mumble, then stop and do it the old way in my head. So there ya go.

111 posted on 12/06/2018 12:45:27 PM PST by pepsi_junkie (Often wrong, but never in doubt!)
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To: pepsi_junkie

Just so you know, the change to the Nicene Creed’s words, in English, weren’t really a “change” per se but rather a re-translation of the Creed from Latin to English.

The Nicene Creed we all grew up with (in the 60’s and 70’s and 80’s) was horribly translated, so in fact Benedict did a huge favor for the Church in having it retranslated for the English. What we have now is much closer to the sense when it was originally composed than what we had before and in fact, in other languages (especially the Romance languages) it wasn’t re-translated at all because their version was already acceptable. So now the English is more in line with the other languages and the Latin itself.

So you should learn it and say it. You give the responses at other points in the Mass too right? Those too were recently re-translated for the same reason. So no reason to not learn the “new” (or really more original) Creed. It’s not that hard.


132 posted on 12/06/2018 1:12:02 PM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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