Pulling Back the Veil - An Overview of the Book of Revelation

Archdiocese of Washington ^ | 11-18-18 | Msgr. Charles Pope

[Elsie]

Oh; they saw something all right.

The EvilOne can simulate all kinds of stuff.

He goes about roaring like a lion you know.

[Elsie]

I ain’t gettin’ in THIS mess again.

You guys can fill in the blanks that the bible leaves out if you wish.

[Elsie]

 1 Corinthians 4:6

Now, brothers, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit,

so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying,

"Do not go beyond what is written."

Then you will not take pride in one man over against another.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“You are correct sir, you win a cookie.

Excellent!

It’s the holiday season, so make mine a snickerdoodle!

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“Do not go beyond what is written.”

“Hey!! That eliminates 3/4 of what our One True Roman Church teaches!

It must be false.

-Roman Dude
Hail Mary!!

[ealgeone]

We Christians will not be at your final judgment...We have been judged already, and found to be just...

The awesomeness of His promise to us recorded in John 10:26-30!

27“My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me;

28and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand.

29“My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all;

and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.

30“I and the Father are one." John 10:26-30 NASB

[Iscool]

I will only disagree slightly with that bro. I think we will definitely be there, but not to be judged, but to appear as witnesses against the unbelievers.

Yep...I didn't want to shock them with too much information all at once...

[Iscool]

The awesomeness of His promise to us recorded in John 10:26-30!

Amen to that...

[editor-surveyor]

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This is the end of the age!

“Antichrist” will be in view in the spring of 2021.

We are getting close to the opening of the 7th seal.

[Mark17]

I was reasonably sure, it was definitely possible, that the kids at Fatima did actually see a vision. I can, however, absolutely guarantee, it was NOT Mary. It may have been a demon manifestation, but it was NOT Mary.
I think any “contact” with Mary, would be more commonly called necromancy. I am just not into necromancy. 👎

[daniel1212]

Which is part of the parallelization of Mary with Christ in elevating the Mary of Catholsicism to beng a demigoddess, versus the holy, pious, virtuous Spirit-filled Mary of Scripture, who herself only is seen praying directly to God, and will condemn thinking of her far, far, far above that which is written. (cf. 1 Co. 4:6) For in addition to other aspects , As Christ dwells in the hearts of believers of Christ, so it is said of Mary, that "His will is, that I should dwell in the hearts of all the elect." (The glories of Mary, tr. from the Ital. of st. Alphonsus de'Liguori, p. 200 )

[Elsie]

“Hey!! That eliminates 3/4 of what our One True Roman Church teaches!

It could also zap a LOT of what goes on in some Prot ones as well!

[Elsie]

28 and I give eternal life to them, and they will never perish; and no one will snatch them out of My hand.

 

And just WHEN will this gift be given?

 

It appears; from my reading of the Book; that it occurs AFTER a name is found in the Book of Life:

 

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Revelation 20:11-15
"Then I saw a great White Throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and THE BOOKS WERE OPENED. Another book was opened WHICH IS THE BOOK OF LIFE. The dead were judged according to their works as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to their works.  Then death and Hades were thrown into the Lake of Fire. The Lake of Fire is the second death. If anyone's name was not found written IN THE BOOK OF LIFE, he was thrown into the lake of fire."

 

Revelation 21:27

Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

[Elsie]

Yep...I didn't want to shock them with too much information all at once...

Could ya shock me with the scripture that makes you think this?

[ealgeone]

When one professes faith in Christ...or as Paul notes, the one who calls upon the Lord will be saved. It is then we receive the Holy Spirit with whom we are sealed.

Our eternal security is secure because of Him.

[Elsie]

When one professes faith in Christ...or as Paul notes, the one who calls upon the Lord will be saved.

I do not disagree.

I merely want to know WHEN this will take place.

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Our eternal security is secure because of Him.

And if HE changes His mind?

Exodus 32:32-33
 But now, if you will forgive their sin—but if not, please blot me out of your book that you have written.”  But the Lord said to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against me, I will blot out of my book.

 

Revelation 3:5
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.

[ealgeone]

Based on what I read in Romans it's at the moment of confession.

In Revelation the one who overcomes is the one who has accepted Christ as their Savior.

[boatbums]

I know WE don’t want him! ;o)

[boatbums]

My salvation verses! The Lord used this exact passage to reach my heart for the gospel. Reading it for myself (without some priest telling me what I see with my own eyes is not true), the Holy Spirit turned on the light in my soul and I surrendered my heart to Jesus Christ to save me. I never looked back.

[boatbums]

Oh; they saw something all right. The EvilOne can simulate all kinds of stuff. He goes about roaring like a lion you know.

Interesting thing I heard about "roaring" lions...it's the old, feeble and toothless ones who go about roaring and scaring the prey. They no longer have the stamina or strength to do the actual hunting and catching. Satan KNOWS his time is short and he is ALREADY defeated by Jesus Christ.