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Hmmm. Well, the "evangelical leaders" could start there by simply acknowledging Catholics ARE Christians, instead of an "unbiblical cult". Someone send Ray Comfort, Ralph Drollinger, and the rest of 'em a memo that Christianity didn't start in the 1600s.

4 posted on 09/17/2018 11:13:47 AM PDT by BillyBoy (States rights is NOT a suicide pact.)
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You mean Roman Catholicism has renounced all their teachings and condemnations against non Roman Catholics??


12 posted on 09/17/2018 11:46:43 AM PDT by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE!)
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To: BillyBoy; SeekAndFind

“Well, the ‘evangelical leaders’ could start there by simply acknowledging Catholics ARE Christians, instead of an ‘unbiblical cult’. Someone send Ray Comfort, Ralph Drollinger, and the rest of ‘em a memo that Christianity didn’t start in the 1600s.”

Agree and disagree. Christianity, as a religion, is made up of Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant, and maybe some other branches of Christendom. There are true, born-again believers—followers of Christ—who are in the Catholic Church and other churches. I’m friends with Catholic believers who have a real relationship with Christ. In fact, I’m friends with some Catholics who are not born again as well. And they are nice people but have not yet entered into a personal relationship with Christ. Knowing that many Catholics are born-again believers does not mean that the teachings and practices or the Catholic religion are not subject to criticism.

People like Ray Comfort understand that religion is not a relationship with Christ. He will preach the Gospel to anyone—atheist, Catholic, Baptist, other Protestant evangelicals, Muslim, etc.

While I have some doctrinal issues with Catholicism, I appreciate many contributions Catholics make and even the hierarchal system of the Catholic Church has, over the years, proclaimed a lot of Biblical truth that Protestants ignored or shied away from.

But regarding the issue at hand, the modern problem of ritual sex abuse of children is absolutely a problem that Protestants need to face along with Catholics. There may be issues historically where Catholic doctrine was at the heart of a problem or abuse, but this is not really the case today, I feel, with these particular charges.

The real problem stems primarily from NAZI ratlines and Project Paperclip bringing NAZI occultists into our nation and other free countries around the world. Many of these infiltrated churches, including the Catholic Church. There are other separate sex abuse problems in Catholic and Protestant churches, such as the Amish and Mennonite communities which have tolerated multi-generational sex abuse of their girls.

But the infiltration of Satanists is a challenge for all churches and even other religions which at least generally have a basis in striving to do what is morally right. That is, most religions are at least well-intentioned. And all of them, even those founded on the solid bedrock of truth, are vulnerable to Satanic infiltration. This issue requires vigilance and perseverance to identify, address, and resolve within all churches.

This applies to Protestants and Catholics, and even Christian ministries and charities.

I’m not an advocate of ecumenicism, but I do think a lot of the bickering between Christian groups does more harm than good.


14 posted on 09/17/2018 11:54:54 AM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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To: BillyBoy

There are quite a few traditionalist Catholics on this site who aver that Protestants are not Christians, so you might want to look into that since it disturbs you.


18 posted on 09/17/2018 12:01:28 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: BillyBoy

And Catholicism didn’t start at Cesarea Phillipi with Pope Peter.


64 posted on 09/17/2018 4:07:15 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Auto-correct has become my worst enema.)
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To: BillyBoy
Well, the "evangelical leaders" could start there by simply acknowledging Catholics ARE Christians, instead of an "unbiblical cult".

Sounds like a plan...


"One indeed is the universal Church of the faithful, outside which no one at all is saved, in which the priest himself is the sacrifice, Jesus Christ, whose body and blood are truly contained in the sacrament of the altar under the species of bread and wine; the bread (changed) into His body by the divine power of transubstantiation, and the wine into the blood, so that to accomplish the mystery of unity we ourselves receive from His (nature) what He Himself received from ours."

--Pope Innocent III and Lateran Council IV (A.D. 1215)

77 posted on 09/17/2018 5:37:59 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BillyBoy
...instead of an "unbiblical cult".

HMMMmmm…


Well; I; for one; sure don't want any of that UNBIBLICAL stuff around ME!!!



 

Ambrose: …constantly pray ‘Open to us, O Mary, the gates of paradise, since thou hast its KEYS.

Anselm: It suffices, O Lady, that thou willest it, and our SALVATION is certain.

Antoninus: …souls protected by Mary, and on which she casts her eyes, are NECESSARILY JUSTIFIED AND SAVED. 

Athanasius: …And, thou, O Lady, wast filled with grace, that thou mightiest be the way of our SALVATION and the means of ascent to the heavenly Kingdom.

Bernadine: …all gifts, all virtues, and all graces are dispensed by the hands of Mary to whomsoever, when, and as she pleases. O Lady, since thou art the dispenser of all graces, and since the grace of salvation can ONLY come through thy hands, OUR SALVATION DEPENDS ON THEE.
(Leo XIII: Adiutricem populi, September 5, 1895) — [p. 19, no. 44]

Blosius: To the, O Lady, are committed the KEYS and the treasures of the kingdom of Heaven.

Bonaventure: …the gates of heaven will open to all who confide in the protection of Mary. Blessed are they who know thee, O Mother of God, for the knowledge of THEE is the high road to everlasting life, and the publication of thy virtues is the way of ETERNAL SALVATION . Give ear, O ye nations; and all you who desire heaven , serve, honor Mary, and certainly you will find ETERNAL LIFE.

She says, "He that shall find Me shall find life, and shall have salvation from the Lord.   "Qui me invenerit, inveniet vitam, et hauriet salutem a Domino."

Listen," exclaims St. Bonaventure on these words, "listen, all you who desire the kingdom of God: honor the most Blessed Virgin Mary, and you will find life and eternal salvation."  "Audite qui ingredi cupitis regnum Dei: Virginem Mariam honorate, et invenietis vitam et salutem perpetuam."-psalt. B.V.ps.48.

 

Ephem: …devotion to the divine Mother…is the unlocking of the heavenly Jerusalem.

Fulgetius: …by Mary God descended from Heaven into the world, that by HER man might ascend from earth to Heaven.

Guerric: …he who serves Mary and for whom she intercedes, is as CERTAIN of heaven as if he were already there…and those who DO NOT serve Mary will NOT BE SAVED.

Richard of Laurence: Mary, in fine, is the mistress of heaven; for there she commands as she wills, and ADMITS whom she wills.

 

“The Catholic Church has always and with justice put all her hope and trust in the Mother of God.”

(Leo XIII: Encyclical, Supreme Apostolatus, September 1, 1883.) — [p. 32, no. 104]



“... Yet our manner of praying to the Blessed Virgin has something in common with our worship of God so that the Church even addressed to her the words with which we pray to God: ‘Have mercy on sinners.’”

(Leo XIII: Encyclical, Augustissimae, September 12, 1897.) [p. 68; no. 302]

"Only She Can Help You"
by Father Nicholas Gruner, S.T.L., S.T.D. (Cand.)
In this letter introducing The Fatima Crusader Issue 38, Father Gruner discusses the growing lies and deception about Russia's errors and the consecration of that nation. He also reminds us that, while it is urgent that we be informed about and fight for Our Lady's cause, we must ask for Her help and intercession.

 

Mary Leads Her Servants to Heaven
by St. Alphonsus de Liguori
In this article taken from The Glories of Mary, Saint Alphonsus explains that there are countless souls in Heaven who are there now only because Mary, by Her powerful intercession, led them there. If a soul persists in true devotion to the Blessed Virgin Mary, She will certainly lead that soul to Heaven.

 



The Rosary
by Father Stefano Manelli, S.T.D.
It is greatly important that Our Lady insisted on the Rosary. When at Fatima She spoke of the salvation of sinners, of the ruin of souls in hell, of wars and peace, and of the future of our age. Our Lady indicated and recommended the Rosary as the prayer that saves, that brings peace, that preserves the faith.

Hail Mary, Full of Grace
by Father Stefano Manelli, S.T.D.
It is truly a treasure to have a strong devotion to Our Lady, for it is She who unites us to Jesus and brings us to Heaven, as this article explains.

Mary, Our Life, Our Sweetness, Our Hope
by St. Alphonsus de Liguori
St. Alphonsus de Liguori explains how Mary is our life, how She is our sweetness, and how She is our hope.

The historical record of the worship of Mary accumulated by St. Alphonsus de Liguori who wrote “The Glories of Mary” in the year 1745, which has been since translated into English and printed again and again and again with the full affirmation and imprimatur of the official Roman Catholic Church.  In this book there is the sum of all the glories of Mary which has been vouchsafe to the Roman Catholic Church and the Church itself calls upon all its constituents to give Mary that honor she is due.  She is identified as Mary, our Queen; Mary, our mother; Mary, our life; Mary, our sweetness; Mary, our hope; Mary, our help; Mary, our Mediatress; Mary, our advocate; Mary, our guardian; and Mary, our salvation.  It is said that Mary delivers us from hell, Mary delivers us from purgatory, and Mary leads us to heaven.  And it should be said that de Liguori, who collected all the Marion dogma and devotion, was himself one of the most celebrated and revered authorities in the Roman Catholic Church.  De Liguori was himself a cardinal in life, and a saint in death.

 

Jesus said "Without Me you can do nothing". In this crisis which looms ahead of us, Our Lady has told us that we need Her help, Her intercession. We must ask for Her help with the Rosary and the Scapular.

At Fatima, Our Lady told us very plainly that "Only I can help you". Today more than ever is this so true.

Pray the Rosary and sacrifice yourself for Our Lady.

I urge you to also make some sacrifices as Our Lady of Fatima asked us. For those who are able, do some fasting. If you can, abstain from meat by eating meat only during one meal a day. Try to do this for two days, even ten days or 30 days. Of course we should abstain totally from meat every Friday.

 

 Jesus and Mary — Our Hope

It is so urgent that we reach as many souls as possible before it is too late. Let us be of good cheer and remember the words of Jesus to each of us, "It's never too late to have recourse to Jesus and Mary." That is why it is so important to reach the many millions of souls who do not know this, and who do not know the grave dangers lying in wait for their souls.

No, we must never lose hope. Mary is our hope. She can obtain for us what we cannot by ourselves. Read what St. Alphonsus has to say regarding confidence in Our Lady's intercession in "Mary Leads Her Servants to Heaven". Father Manelli also reminds us of the importance of devotion to Our Lady. (See "Hail Mary, Full of Grace"). Our Blessed Mother tells us to turn to Her in confidence. She tells us repeatedly to ask Her intercession through the frequent fervent praying of the Rosary. (See "The Rosary"). She tells us we must pray the Rosary every day. She wants us to pray it many times a day.

 

http://fatima.org/crusader/cr38/cr38pg2.asp



"Blessed is he whose interior offers the Blessed Virgin Mary a place of repose." Devotion towards the Blessed Virgin remains in all who are the inheritance of Our Lord; that is to say, in all who will praise Him eternally in Heaven.

O, how many blessed souls are now in Heaven who would never have been there had not Mary, by Her powerful intercession, led them thither. I made that in the heavens there should rise light that never faileth. Cardinal Hugo, in his commentary on the above text of Ecclesiasticus, says in the name of Mary, "I have caused as many saints in Heaven through Her intercession, who would never have been there but through Her ."

...in the words of St. Ambrose, "Open to us, O Mary, the gates of paradise, since Thou hast its keys." "Aperi nobis, O Virgo coelum, cujus claves habes." Nay more, the Church says, that "Thou art its gate." 

 


 

St. Antoninus tells us "that this divine Mother has already, by Her assistance and prayers, obtained Heaven for us, provided we put no obstacle in the way."23

Hence, says Abbot Guerric, "he who serves Mary, and for whom She intercedes, is as certain of Heaven as if he was already there."24

St. John Damascene also says, "that to serve Mary and be Her courtier is the greatest honor we can possibly possess; for to serve the Queen of Heaven is already to reign there, and live under Her commands is more than to govern."25

On the other hand, he adds, "that those who do not serve Mary will not be saved; for those who are deprived of the help of this great Mother are also deprived of that of Her Son and of the whole court of heaven."26

 23.  "Coeleste nobis regnum, suo interventu auxiliis, et precibus, impetravit."—Paciucch. Sup. Salve Reg. exc. I.
 24. "Qui Virgini famulatur, ita securus est de paradiso, ac si esset in paradiso."
 25. "Summus honor, servire Mariæ, et de ejus esse familia; etenim ei servire, regnare est; et ejus agi frænis, summa libertas."
 26. "Gens quæ non servierit illi, peribit; gentes destitutæ tantæ Matris auxilio, destituuntur auxilio Filii et totius curi’‘ coelestis."— De Laud. B. M. I. 4.

Cardinal Hugo http://fatima.org/crusader/cr38/cr38pg3.asp 

 

 
 

79 posted on 09/17/2018 5:41:01 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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