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Relics and Early Church Grit
Cream City Catholic ^ | 8/3/18

Posted on 09/15/2018 2:33:13 PM PDT by marshmallow

At the northern tip of Via Giulia in Rome, you’ll find the church of San Giovanni dei Fiorentini. The large dome that crowns this church is one of many that accent the Roman skyline.

If it’s hot, airy churches like San Giovanni provide the weary pilgrim with a spiritual and physical oasis. Most likely, you’ll be sweaty and your feet sore from treading the miles of cobblestone streets in the Eternal City. Walk up the worn marble steps of San Giovanni and enter. Head down the left aisle and, at the end, you’ll notice a striking silver reliquary in the shape of…a foot. Inside this reliquary is the foot of Saint Mary Magdalen. (This is Rome, folks, so get used to seeing bones encased in elaborate gold and silver surrounded by vigil candles and corpses under altars and many other things that will certainly strike some Americans as odd or macabre. The Church has been doing this for ages.)

Spend some time in prayer before the relic of this saint known first for her conversion and later, her unflagging loyalty to Christ when most of his closest friends bolted. Ensnared by sin, she was set free by the Lord, and never left Him again. During the crucifixion, perhaps some choice words were directed at her by people in the crowd. Maybe her past life was well-known. Regardless, she stayed at the foot of the cross. There’s an inscription near the relic stating that the feet of Mary Magdalen were the first to enter the tomb of Christ after the Resurrection. According to tradition, she later lived as a hermitess for the rest of her life, absorbed in prayer and love. She wasn’t a martyr, but she must have been one of the most fearless saints of......

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To: Elsie

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61 posted on 10/10/2018 12:48:12 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: blackpacific

You are correct.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutenberg_Bible

The Gutenberg Bible (also known as the 42-line Bible, the Mazarin Bible or the B42) was the first major book printed in the West using movable type. It marked the start of the “Gutenberg Revolution” and the age of the printed book in the West. Widely praised for its high aesthetic and artistic qualities,[1] the book has an iconic status. Written in Latin, the Gutenberg Bible is an edition of the Vulgate, printed by Johannes Gutenberg, in Mainz, in present-day Germany, in the 1450s.


62 posted on 10/10/2018 1:15:59 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/source-vatican-cardinal-was-at-drug-fueled-homosexual-party-and-pope-knows

Corruption from the Vatican down. It is sad.


63 posted on 10/10/2018 2:37:23 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: blackpacific; JesusIsLord
Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen Me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.” (John 20:29)
64 posted on 10/10/2018 2:43:29 PM PDT by boatbums (Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to His mercy he saved us.)
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To: metmom
The fairy tales (article about the Church of the Three Fountains) you guys will believe and swallow whole is a testament to how far Catholicism has swerved from the truth.

I'm not sure why you sent me the above comment. My faith & hope is in the written and living Word - not fables.

65 posted on 10/10/2018 6:03:45 PM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: JesusIsLord

Courtesy ping.

General FR decorum is that the first person in the *To* field is the person to whom the post is addressed.

The other names are either courtesy pings as they were part of the conversation, or ping list pings.

So, no, the post was not addressed to you.


66 posted on 10/10/2018 6:29:42 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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To: marshmallow
According to tradition...

That's good enough for me!!


--CAtholic_Wannabe_Dude(Hail Mary)



67 posted on 10/11/2018 5:19:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Jacquerie
Leaving Rome; one can journey to France, where we find the OTHER end of MM.


68 posted on 10/11/2018 5:24:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: blackpacific
The Early Church and the Catholic Church are one and the same. It is a family of love.

HMMMmmm…

'Tain't how the angel described it to John in the first three chapters of Revelation.


But then, Torqemodo was kind a lovin' fella hisself!

69 posted on 10/11/2018 5:25:59 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JesusIsLord
My understanding of the practices and teachings of the Roman Catholic church through history tells me that it has little resemblance to the early church.


One can READ; in the Book Rome assembled; just WHAT the 'early church' requirements were.


 

Acts 15

The Council at Jerusalem
 1 Certain people came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the believers: "Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved." 2 This brought Paul and Barnabas into sharp dispute and debate with them. So Paul and Barnabas were appointed, along with some other believers, to go up to Jerusalem to see the apostles and elders about this question. 3 The church sent them on their way, and as they traveled through Phoenicia and Samaria, they told how the Gentiles had been converted. This news made all the believers very glad. 4 When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and elders, to whom they reported everything God had done through them.

 5 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, "The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses."

 6 The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: "Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are."

 12 The whole assembly became silent as they listened to Barnabas and Paul telling about the signs and wonders God had done among the Gentiles through them. 13 When they finished, James spoke up. "Brothers," he said, "listen to me. 14 Simon has described to us how God first intervened to choose a people for his name from the Gentiles. 15 The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:

 16 "'After this I will return
   and rebuild David's fallen tent.
Its ruins I will rebuild,
   and I will restore it,
17 that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord,
   even all the Gentiles who bear my name,
says the Lord, who does these things'
 18 things known from long ago.

 19 "It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. 21 For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath."

The Council's Letter to Gentile Believers
 22 Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to choose some of their own men and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They chose Judas (called Barsabbas) and Silas, men who were leaders among the believers. 23 With them they sent the following letter:

   The apostles and elders, your brothers,

   To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia:

   Greetings.

 24 We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. 25 So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul— 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. 28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.

   Farewell.

 30 So the men were sent off and went down to Antioch, where they gathered the church together and delivered the letter. 31 The people read it and were glad for its encouraging message. 32 Judas and Silas, who themselves were prophets, said much to encourage and strengthen the believers. 33 After spending some time there, they were sent off by the believers with the blessing of peace to return to those who had sent them. [34] 35 But Paul and Barnabas remained in Antioch, where they and many others taught and preached the word of the Lord.

Disagreement Between Paul and Barnabas
 36 Some time later Paul said to Barnabas, "Let us go back and visit the believers in all the towns where we preached the word of the Lord and see how they are doing." 37 Barnabas wanted to take John, also called Mark, with them, 38 but Paul did not think it wise to take him, because he had deserted them in Pamphylia and had not continued with them in the work. 39 They had such a sharp disagreement that they parted company. Barnabas took Mark and sailed for Cyprus, 40 but Paul chose Silas and left, commended by the believers to the grace of the Lord. 41 He went through Syria and Cilicia, strengthening the churches.

70 posted on 10/11/2018 5:33:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: blackpacific
Notre Dame in Paris houses the Crown of Thorns and one of the Nails of the Crucifixion, Chartres houses the veil Mary wore at the Annunciation when God the Word became Flesh.

SURE they do!

71 posted on 10/11/2018 5:34:36 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: blackpacific
...one well versed in the Book of Revelation...

Uh; OK.

72 posted on 10/11/2018 5:35:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Campion
That would be the same God who commanded "Honor thy father and thy mother"?

Yup; and Who later said, "Call no man father."

73 posted on 10/11/2018 5:38:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: mrobisr
Cleaned up a bit.....


 
1  Prayers for the dead  300 AD
2  Making the sign of the cross  300 AD
3  Veneration of angels & dead saints  375 AD
4  Use of images in worship 375 AD
5  The Mass as a daily celebration 394 AD
6  Beginning of the exaltation of Mary the term, "Mother of GOD" applied at Council of Ephesus 431 AD
7  Extreme Unction (Last Rites) 526 AD
8  Doctrine of Purgatory-Gregory 593 AD
9  Prayers to Mary & dead saints  600 AD
10  Worship of cross, images & relics  786 AD
11  Canonization of dead saints  995 AD
12  Celibacy of priesthood  1079 AD
13  The Rosary  1090 AD
14  Indulgences  1190 AD
15  Transubstantiation-Innocent III  1215 AD
16  Auricular Confession of sins to a priest  1215 AD
17  Adoration of the wafer (Host) 1220 AD
18  Cup forbidden to the people at communion  1414 AD
19  Purgatory proclaimed as a dogma 1439 AD
20  The doctrine of the Seven Sacraments confirmed  1439 AD
21  Tradition declared of equal authority with Bible by Council of Trent. 1545 AD
22  Apocryphal books added to Bible  1546 AD
23  Immaculate Conception of Mary 1854 AD
24  Infallibility of the pope in matters of faith and morals, proclaimed by the Vatican Council  1870 AD
25  Assumption of the Virgin Mary (bodily ascension into heaven shortly after her death)  1950 AD
26  Mary proclaimed Mother of the Church 1965 AD

74 posted on 10/11/2018 6:10:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: mrobisr

MEGO!!


75 posted on 10/11/2018 6:10:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: blackpacific
If images are so wrong, why did Jesus leave us His Shroud, Sudarium, and the Veil of Veronica, all of which are in the possession of the Catholic Church?

Really?

Who has His GARMENT he was wearing?

The one the soldiers cast lots for...

76 posted on 10/11/2018 6:18:06 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: blackpacific
The institution of confession and the Eucharist are most clearly indicated in the Gospels, why are you deaf to the Word of God?

Sorry; but what ROME has called Eucharist is called THE PASSOVER MEAL in the Gospels.

77 posted on 10/11/2018 6:19:11 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: blackpacific
The institution of confession and the Eucharist are most clearly indicated in the Gospels, why are you deaf to the Word of God?

'Tis an interesting question...

Call no man father.

78 posted on 10/11/2018 6:19:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: blackpacific

'Tis mighty strange that ROME has decided that these verses - snipped out of the following - somehow apply to the mother of Jesus;

while IGNORING the rest of them that SURELY describe sexual love...

 

 

 

Song of Solomon 6 English Standard Version (ESV)

Others

Where has your beloved gone,
    O most beautiful among women?
Where has your beloved turned,
    that we may seek him with you?

Together in the Garden of Love

She

My beloved has gone down to his garden
    to the beds of spices,
to graze[a] in the gardens
    and to gather lilies.
I am my beloved's and my beloved is mine;
    he grazes among the lilies.

Solomon and His Bride Delight in Each Other

He

You are beautiful as Tirzah, my love,
    lovely as Jerusalem,
    awesome as an army with banners.
Turn away your eyes from me,
    for they overwhelm me—
Your hair is like a flock of goats
    leaping down the slopes of Gilead.
Your teeth are like a flock of ewes
    that have come up from the washing;
all of them bear twins;
    not one among them has lost its young.
Your cheeks are like halves of a pomegranate
    behind your veil.
There are sixty queens and eighty concubines,
    and virgins without number.
My dove, my perfect one, is the only one,
    the only one of her mother,
    pure to her who bore her.
The young women saw her and called her blessed;
    the queens and concubines also, and they praised her.

10 “Who is this who looks down like the dawn,
    beautiful as the moon, bright as the sun,
    awesome as an army with banners?”

She

11 I went down to the nut orchard
    to look at the blossoms of the valley,
to see whether the vines had budded,
    whether the pomegranates were in bloom.
12 Before I was aware, my desire set me
    among the chariots of my kinsman, a prince.[b]

Others

13 [c] Return, return, O Shulammite,
    return, return, that we may look upon you.

He

Why should you look upon the Shulammite,
    as upon a dance before two armies?[d]


79 posted on 10/11/2018 6:26:48 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: blackpacific
But now that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh, images of Him are not only permitted but encouraged, by Jesus Christ Himself, leaving us the three images I mentioned during His Passion and Resurrection.

Oh??

News to everyone who has a working knowledge of the Book that ROME assembled.

80 posted on 10/11/2018 6:28:01 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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