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Why infant baptism?
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| 08-01-18
| Msgr. Charles Pope
Posted on 08/11/2018 10:24:01 AM PDT by Salvation
Why infant baptism? Practices have shifted for some Christians, but Catholics are with those who hold to infant baptism
Msgr. Charles Pope 8/1/2018
Question: Since infant baptism is becoming controversial, why doesn’t the Church abandon the practice or emphasize individualized confirmation for older teens? —Robert Bonsignore, Brooklyn, N.Y.
Answer: I am unaware of any recent controversy about infant baptism in the Church. There have been Protestant groups opposed to infant baptism, but their views stretch back more than 200 years. Ironically today, it is the Baptists and their evangelical offshoots that are most opposed to the practice. But for the record, most “mainline” Protestant denominations do baptize infants, including Anglicans, Lutherans, Presbyterians, Methodists, Congregationalists and other Reformed denominations, such as the Moravian Church. The Orthodox Churches also observe this ancient practice. In the Catholic Church we baptize infants because that is what we have always done. While Scripture doesn’t directly mention the practice, the reference to the baptism of “whole households” includes infants.
Further, St. Peter in Acts includes children when he requires baptism: “‘Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the holy Spirit. For the promise is made to you and to your children and to all those far off, whomever the Lord our God will call’” (Acts 2:38-39).
St. Paul says: “In [Christ] you were circumcised with a circumcision not administered by hand, by stripping off the carnal body, with the circumcision of Christ. You were buried with him in baptism …” (Col 2:11-12). Calling baptism the “circumcision of Christ” links it to a practice performed on the eighth day after birth. The analogy seems far less meaningful or sensible if only adults were baptized.
And, of course, Jesus said, “Let the children come to me; do not prevent them, for the kingdom of God belongs to such as these” (Mk 10:14). But later he adds, “Amen, amen, I say to you, no one can enter the kingdom of God without being born of water and Spirit” (Jn 3:5). So the little children belong to the kingdom but must enter in the water of baptism and the grace of the Holy Spirit.
Finally, as to the practice of the early Church, infant baptism is clearly attested in numerous places. Hippolytus wrote in 215 A.D. about baptizing households or large groups: “Baptize first the children, and if they can speak for themselves let them do so. Otherwise, let their parents or other relatives speak for them” (“The Apostolic Tradition” 21:16).
As for confirmation, there is a widespread practice today in the Latin rite of delaying it until the teenage years. But this practice is only in the last hundred years. When Pope St. Pius X moved the reception of first Communion to age 7, confirmation was not similarly adjusted. This created an unnatural alteration in the order of the sacraments. Yet, our ancient custom is that confirmation is to be received before First Communion. This order is preserved today in the baptism of adults. In some dioceses there has been a restoration of the ancient order of the sacraments. Thus confirmation is given just prior to first Communion. While there are debates about when to give confirmation and how to teach of it, it is inarguably true that we are currently out of sync with our own tradition in the Latin rite.
In the Eastern rites of the Catholic Church, confirmation and communion are given to infants on the day of baptism. Thus, an infant is fully initiated at baptism.
TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; History; Theology
KEYWORDS: baptism; catholic; sacraments
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To: Elsie
“WHAT PART OF with the word fails to click?”
Nothing, what part of baptism IS “water with the word” fails to click on your end?
So what other baths/washings with water are there other than baptism that this could POSSIBLY be referring to?
To: aMorePerfectUnion
Im sure glad God have more faith in children than you do.
The word of the LORD came to me:
Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,
before you were born I dedicated you,
a prophet to the nations I appointed you.
Ah, Lord GOD! I said,
I do not know how to speak. I am too young!
But the LORD answered me,
Do not say, I am too young.
To whomever I send you, you shall go;
whatever I command you, you shall speak.
Do not be afraid of them,
for I am with you to deliver youoracle of the LORD.
Then the LORD extended his hand and touched my mouth, saying to me,
See, I place my words in your mouth
Jeremiah 1:4-9
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posted on
08/12/2018 9:18:30 PM PDT
by
NKP_Vet
("Man without God descends into madness")
To: CraigEsq
do infants understand the Word?
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posted on
08/13/2018 4:19:05 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: CraigEsq
How do you USE a baptism? One of the key purposes is to give the new believer an opportunity to publicly tell the story of how God lifted them out of their sin-debt and hopefully inspire others to come to God, through faith in the finished work of Christ on the cross.
To: CraigEsq
The word in Greek is lutrou, which means bath. Titus literally says bath of regeneration. Sounds like water to me.Ever been bathed in sunlight??? Bath does not always mean water...And in this case a person is bathed in regeneration, not water...
Here's Cornelius:::
Act 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act 10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
Act 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
Cornelius and his crew were bathed of regeneration and afterward got dunked in the water (as a testimony of their regeneration)...
8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
Act 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believeth with all thine heart, (and ONLY if thou first believeth) thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
The Eunuch was bathed in regeneration thru his belief and THEN jumped in the lake...
Regeneration happens thru belief and then we are baptized...After we are bathed in regeneration...
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posted on
08/13/2018 7:55:58 AM PDT
by
Iscool
To: Elsie
do infants understand the Word?
***
Do any of us understand the Word?
If we start putting limits on levels of understanding—you have to know THIS much and no less or else—then we turn grace into a work.
But I would argue that infants DO understand the Word, at least enough to understand need. Need, and the inability to satisfy that need. Why else would they cry?
Faith is faith, after all, not intellectual assent.
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posted on
08/13/2018 8:16:02 AM PDT
by
Luircin
To: Iscool
Honestly, I’d argue that it’s both-and, not either-or.
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posted on
08/13/2018 8:18:33 AM PDT
by
Luircin
To: daniel1212
Born again is nothing more than baptism. Been that way for 2,000 no matter how much Protestants squawk about it.
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posted on
08/13/2018 11:26:54 AM PDT
by
NKP_Vet
("Man without God descends into madness")
To: bramps
Why wouldnt a Priest just walk around non stop (especially in Muslim communities) sprinkling people with water and baptizing them if knowledge and consent of the one being baptized is not necessary (as is the case with an infant)?
That is right, if it is the water baptism which saves why give them a chance to refuse.
But it seems strange to me that if it was alright then why did Jesus not get Baptized until he was nearly thirty.
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posted on
08/13/2018 12:12:10 PM PDT
by
ravenwolf
(Left lane drivers and tailgaters have the smallest brains in the world.)
To: Salvation
"Why infant Baptism?".
My answer is "Why the Rosary?".
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posted on
08/13/2018 12:18:54 PM PDT
by
DungeonMaster
(If your church believes in evolution it is not a Christian church.)
To: Salvation
I don`t know if infants should be Baptized or not but i know a lot of people who were baptized as children and many of them hates the word GOD.
So infant Baptism must not save.
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posted on
08/13/2018 12:22:39 PM PDT
by
ravenwolf
(Left lane drivers and tailgaters have the smallest brains in the world.)
To: Luircin
Do any of us understand the Word? Yes.
To: Ken Regis
So, you’re telling me that there are people who know every secret of God and the exact intended meaning of every single verse in Scripture?
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posted on
08/13/2018 1:58:08 PM PDT
by
Luircin
To: Ken Regis
Honestly, some of the things that people post in these religion threads amaze me.
To me, it boils down to this: Much of the utter ignorance comes from people who try to carve their OWN image of God. Infant baptism is getting wet. Babies look cute in a white gown. Thats the way its been for ump-teen years.
Of course! People can understand Gods Word! He commands you to STUDY it, know it, memorize it, and follow it. AND HE COMMANDS YOU TO NOT ADD TO IT. (Which is the error we see over and over and over again in these threads.)
What is WRONG with these FOOLS!?
To: Luircin
Adding a modifier changes your question, doesnt it?
To: Ken Regis
Not changes it, clarifies the point I was trying to make. At least I hope it does.
If we’re going to talk about understanding the Word, then the only one with perfect understanding is the Lord himself. And if we make quote-unquote ‘understanding’ the Word as a requirement for salvation, we turn the Christian faith into a kind of Gnosticism.
But as Proverbs says: “Trust in the LORD with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding.” And infants can trust.
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posted on
08/13/2018 2:11:50 PM PDT
by
Luircin
To: Ken Regis
They resemble the other guy; not the publican who said, “Lord; have mercy on me; a sinner.”
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posted on
08/13/2018 2:15:26 PM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
To: Ken Regis
Of course! People can understand Gods Word! He commands you to STUDY it, know it, memorize it, and follow it.
***
You are absolutely correct.
At the same time, if I may make a small absurdity, there is no Bible verse memorization competition in order to see who gets eternal life and who gets thrown into Hell.
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posted on
08/13/2018 2:15:36 PM PDT
by
Luircin
To: Elsie; Ken Regis
They resemble the other guy; not the publican who said, Lord; have mercy on me; a sinner.
***
You said it.
And I pray that the Lord keeps all of us away from the ‘other guy’ state, even when we’re not in total agreement with each other.
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posted on
08/13/2018 2:17:40 PM PDT
by
Luircin
To: Luircin
More Carving.
Sounds a lot like your own understanding (a la 1Cor 1 and 2)
BTW- babies cry because theyre dissatisfied sinners.
Not too different from the whining I read in these threads.
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