Posted on 08/11/2018 10:24:01 AM PDT by Salvation
“WHAT PART OF with the word fails to click?”
Nothing, what part of baptism IS “water with the word” fails to click on your end?
So what other baths/washings with water are there other than baptism that this could POSSIBLY be referring to?
I’m sure glad God have more faith in children than you do.
“The word of the LORD came to me:
Before I formed you in the womb I knew you,
before you were born I dedicated you,
a prophet to the nations I appointed you.
“Ah, Lord GOD!” I said,
“I do not know how to speak. I am too young!
But the LORD answered me,
Do not say, “I am too young.”
To whomever I send you, you shall go;
whatever I command you, you shall speak.
Do not be afraid of them,
for I am with you to deliver you—oracle of the LORD.
Then the LORD extended his hand and touched my mouth, saying to me,
See, I place my words in your mouth”
Jeremiah 1:4-9
do infants understand the Word?
One of the key purposes is to give the new believer an opportunity to publicly tell the story of how God lifted them out of their sin-debt and hopefully inspire others to come to God, through faith in the finished work of Christ on the cross.
Ever been bathed in sunlight??? Bath does not always mean water...And in this case a person is bathed in regeneration, not water...
Here's Cornelius:::
Act 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
Act 10:45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Act 10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
Act 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
Cornelius and his crew were bathed of regeneration and afterward got dunked in the water (as a testimony of their regeneration)...
8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
Act 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believeth with all thine heart, (and ONLY if thou first believeth) thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
The Eunuch was bathed in regeneration thru his belief and THEN jumped in the lake...
Regeneration happens thru belief and then we are baptized...After we are bathed in regeneration...
do infants understand the Word?
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Do any of us understand the Word?
If we start putting limits on levels of understanding—you have to know THIS much and no less or else—then we turn grace into a work.
But I would argue that infants DO understand the Word, at least enough to understand need. Need, and the inability to satisfy that need. Why else would they cry?
Faith is faith, after all, not intellectual assent.
Honestly, I’d argue that it’s both-and, not either-or.
Born again is nothing more than baptism. Been that way for 2,000 no matter how much Protestants squawk about it.
Why wouldn’t a Priest just walk around non stop (especially in Muslim communities) sprinkling people with water and ‘baptizing’ them if knowledge and consent of the one being baptized is not necessary (as is the case with an infant)?
But it seems strange to me that if it was alright then why did Jesus not get Baptized until he was nearly thirty.
My answer is "Why the Rosary?".
I don`t know if infants should be Baptized or not but i know a lot of people who were baptized as children and many of them hates the word GOD.
So infant Baptism must not save.
Yes.
So, you’re telling me that there are people who know every secret of God and the exact intended meaning of every single verse in Scripture?
Honestly, some of the things that people post in these religion threads amaze me.
To me, it boils down to this: Much of the utter ignorance comes from people who try to carve their OWN image of God. “Infant baptism is getting wet.“ “Babies look cute in a white gown.” “That’s the way it’s been for ump-teen years. “
Of course! People can understand God’s Word! He commands you to STUDY it, know it, memorize it, and follow it. AND HE COMMANDS YOU TO NOT ADD TO IT. (Which is the error we see over and over and over again in these threads.)
What is WRONG with these FOOLS!?
Adding a modifier changes your question, doesn’t it?
Not changes it, clarifies the point I was trying to make. At least I hope it does.
If we’re going to talk about understanding the Word, then the only one with perfect understanding is the Lord himself. And if we make quote-unquote ‘understanding’ the Word as a requirement for salvation, we turn the Christian faith into a kind of Gnosticism.
But as Proverbs says: “Trust in the LORD with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding.” And infants can trust.
They resemble the other guy; not the publican who said, “Lord; have mercy on me; a sinner.”
Of course! People can understand God’s Word! He commands you to STUDY it, know it, memorize it, and follow it.
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You are absolutely correct.
At the same time, if I may make a small absurdity, there is no Bible verse memorization competition in order to see who gets eternal life and who gets thrown into Hell.
They resemble the other guy; not the publican who said, “Lord; have mercy on me; a sinner.”
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You said it.
And I pray that the Lord keeps all of us away from the ‘other guy’ state, even when we’re not in total agreement with each other.
More Carving.
Sounds a lot like “your own understanding” (a la’ 1Cor 1 and 2)
BTW- babies cry because they’re dissatisfied sinners.
Not too different from the whining I read in these threads.
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