John MacArthur Condemned By Friends & Himself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uY9fmUgkRLk ^ | August 5 2018 | Servus Christi

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John MacArthur has stated that one can take the mark of the beast, worshiping Satan and his image, and still be saved.

The Bible says the exact opposite.

He is exposed here as condemning himself unwittingly.

His friend and partner Phil Johnson of Grace to You along with Chris Rosebrough of Pirate Christian Radio and Fighting for the Faith also join in condemning MacArthur.

This is the fruit of personal favoritism; blind irrationality. John MacArthur propagates a damnable false teaching that is simply a lie. His sycophants Phil Johnson, Todd Friel, Justin Peters, etc. have all defended him saying that there is only one unpardonable sin; only one blasphemy of the holy spirit. After this, they all have some explaining to do.

See Jacob Prasch confront this teaching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efHvk...

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SMH sadly.

[Mr Rogers]

“There is no repenting from the Mark of the Beast, especially if the Mark is a computer chip with a DNA altering mechanism.”

Well...THAT is sure careful biblical exegesis!

I doubt anyone taking the mark of the beast will repent, but it may or may not match being “unpardonable”. Scripture is pretty silent on computer chips...

“...and the Holy Spirit, poured out at Pentecost, somehow departed from the church”

Um...NO ONE teaches THAT! So unless you can learn to discuss what others actually say instead of your fantasies, you ought to stop spreading dissension.

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I’m just giving my (obvious) opinion to underscore MacArthur’s heresy regarding taking the Mark of the Beast...

But please get the actual quote before you defend MacArthur.

I’m not a preacher and it doesn’t matter what my opinions are about why the Mark is irrevokable

[Roman_War_Criminal]

If you listen to a lot of his sermons he makes up whatever thoughts are going on in his mind to justify his stance on passages.

He claims Salvation in Christ is “hard” & “difficult”. A lie!

It’s always good for Christians to “test the spirits” (1 John 4) to see what is profitable and what is garbage.

These days, with the deception so thick that it’s pitting Christians against Christians, we need to really go back to the Word to filter out the truth. A good portion of pastors these days are wolves.

[righttackle44]

. . . (and I believe he went to Fuller Seminary?) even though he's preached against the Masons (but never takes the time to discuss his family's high ranking Masonic line)... makes for a weird and sad "fruit" out of his church in my opinion.

Had you ever taken the time--and we can see that you haven't--to learn of John MacArthur's educational background, you would have seen that he is a graduate of Talbot Theological Seminary and had attended Bob Jones University, and Azusa Pacific University, the latter two schools having great credence in the fundamentalist and Evangelical communities.

As to not discussing the Freemasonary in his family, I ask, why should he need to? What family skeletons are left buried or not mentioned in the family of Sontagged?

My own great-great-grandfather was the last Sun Dance priest of our tribe. His son, my great-grandfather, was the first ordained Christian minister in our tribe. When my grandfather was dying, he asked his father to become a Christian so that they could be together in Heaven. After his son died, my great-great-grandfather examined his life and his son's life in the light of his own tribal religion. He came to understand that, in his tribal religion, there was no way he would ever see his son again. My great-great-grandfather, despite his leadership and participation in the Sun Dance religion, became a Christian and renounced the tribal religion. Yet, in this day, many traditionalists in our tribe still wish to claim that my great-great-grandfather remained true to his Sun Dance religion. It is the first-hand testimony of our family that my great-great-grandfather is in heaven with his son and our family members who became born-again Christians, some of whom had also been members of the Sun Dance.

The grace of Jesus Christ wipes out all sin--and never imposes the sins of one person upon another. John MacArthur is not responsible for the memberships and associations of his family members, whoever they were and whatever memberships and associations they had or organizations or associations in which they participated. "It is finished" or "paid in full" means exactly that: Mr. MacArthur does not answer for any sins of his family.

And shame on those who insist that he must do so.

[Guenevere]

I don’t know you.

Obviously I don’t know you, because you sure gobsmacked me with your post!,

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Umm. if you had ever taken the time to research MacArthur’s Masonic bloodline you would understand he first heard the Word discussed by his grandfather who was a 33 degree Master Mason (I’m typing from memory, don’t quote me) and ALSO a Presbyterian minister.

As I am not a preacher/teacher by vocation, I do not fall under the Lord’s higher standard, as does John MacArthur, so my questions about his teachings have nothing to do with me personally, but rather as a Berean generally.

So please refrain from condemning me for not remembering (or really caring) where MacArthur learned to teach such heresy such as that it is okay for Christians to take the Mark of the Beast.

That is the point of this thread.

But here is a article on MacArthur’s Masonic blood line.

Enjoy:

https://watch.pairsite.com/macarthur-6-freemasonry.html

[Mr Rogers]

Person in John MacArthur’s church congregation: This is in regard to about half way into the tribulation when men will be required to have the mark of the beast in order to buy or sell. My question is, once a person takes the mark is there any possibility of him coming to Christ?

MacArthur: Yes, I think in the seven year tribulation coming in the future, we’re going to get into this probably this next Sunday night, but the tribulation is a seven year period, right? The rapture happens, 7 year tribulation, then Christ returns and sets up his Kingdom. Now in that 7 year period really two things begins to happen. God begins to judge the world with a series of holocausts, at the same time he begins to redeem his people Israel. In the process of this the anti-Christ establishes his rule and in order to function in the economy you have to take the mark of the beast. The mark being the number of a man, Revelation 13, number 666. Six (6) is the number of man, right? Seven (7) is the number of perfection and man always falls short of perfection. 666, always 6’s, never 7’s. So apparently what’s going to happen, you take the mark on your hand or on your forehead and we’ve talked a lot about that, that’s kind of a computer situation. We are now moving fast toward the time when we are going to have to do everything we do by cards and by numbers and all of that, and those numbers....the thing about a card is that you lose it. and so they have already devised systems where they can put the number on your hand and on your forehead and you can go through a scanner and that’s how you can buy and sell and it’s automatically deducted from your bank account.

Now, the question is: IF you are living in the tribulation period and you take this mark, in other words you identify with the beasts empire (emphasis mine), will you still be able to be redeemed? And I think the answer to that is YES! Yes! Otherwise there would be no salvation of anybody in the end of the tribulation and you’ve got to have salvation of folks at the end of the tribulation. You’re going to have the Jews redeemed. You’re going to have according to Revelation 7 an innumerable number of Gentiles redeemed so many that can’t even be counted from across the face of the earth. So I don’t think the fact that someone takes that is a sentence to permanency anymore than you being a part of this world’s system once in your life means you have to be a part of the system all of your life. Especially when the 144,000 don’t start their ministry until the second half. That would make it a little tough!”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=iU3tjRq6tX4

Not sure he’s right, but he’s hardly committing heresy.

[softengine]

Exactly! I used to make a long commute into DC for work and would listen to Sproul for hours. Not only a great theologian, but am amazing philosopher.

It was through his work, MacArthur's, Paul Washer's, and a handful of others that I heard what I had not heard in a lifetime in a luke-warm church. THAT is amazing Grace. Praise be to God!

[Wallace T.]

It is well to remember that John Rice, who was a well known fundamentalist Baptist theologian and preacher in the mid-20th Century, had a father who was a Mason, and admittedly was initiated into the organization. However, he later renounced his membership and wrote a book denouncing the fraternity.

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Sorry MacArthur’s logic is idiotic and heretical for interpolating that people will be able to repent of taking the Mark of the Beast because “the Lord will have to shorten the time for the sake of the Elect”.

Here is some more MacArthur Mormon Masonic heresies:

http://www.jesusisprecious.org/false_doctrine/lordship_salvation/macarthur_mormon.htm

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I’m not in MacArthur’s congregation, and never would step a foot in the door. Where did you get that?

[PAR35]

What are cessationist teachings?

Opposite of Pentecostal. No speaking in tongues, no "word of knowledge", etc.

[SarahPalin2012]

I’m not a preacher and it doesn’t matter what my opinions are about why the Mark is irrevokable

You sure have made a lot of posts on this thread before feigning humility about your "knowledge". Everyone gets accused of heresy, even Billy Graham. People like MacArthur and Graham have a long history of sound teaching. To twist one or two comments and to try to label them heretical (and only after severe contortions of what they actually mean, even if the lifted statement seems erroneous) -- is irresponsible, and possibly harmful to those who may not know much about the actual teachings by these men. I've visited Dr. MacArthur's church in Sun Valley and have read his books and have his NKJV Bible. The amateur theologians on this board basically need to humble themselves and be quiet.

[softengine]

You’re right. I think the Lord works in ways we do not often discern, to bring us to Him.

[softengine]

"And I say this as a Pentecostal Charismatic"

Mmm hmm. Now, I understand why you hate MacArthur so much. Ok, then. Carry on.

[Guenevere]

Amen!

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MacArthur teaches it’s okay to take the Mark of the Beast, because it can somehow be repented of later... in direct contradiction of the Word.

We are all called to be Bereans; not sure Paul commended them for their humility?

Here are more MacArthur problems:

https://forum.culteducation.com/read.php?14,76955,page=32

https://watch.pairsite.com/macarthur-6-freemasonry.html

http://www.jesusisprecious.org/false_doctrine/lordship_salvation/macarthur_mormon.htm

[SarahPalin2012]

Sorry MacArthur’s logic is idiotic and heretical for interpolating that people will be able to repent of taking the Mark of the Beast because “the Lord will have to shorten the time for the sake of the Elect”. Here is some more MacArthur Mormon Masonic heresies:

http://www.jesusisprecious.org/false_doctrine/lordship_salvation/macarthur_mormon.htm

I just went to that website. So the website also favorites Mark Dice and Ron Paul, and you are relying on them for sound doctrine?

That's like going to a Vegan restaurant to satisfy your steak fix.