Posted on 08/01/2018 11:41:01 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
HARRISBURG, Pa. — A landmark grand jury report identifies more than 300 "predator priests" in six of Pennsylvania's Roman Catholic dioceses, the state Supreme Court said Friday in ordering the findings released. (Tap here to read the court ruling.)
The justices said the report on clergy child sexual abuse going back decades and allegations of cover-up efforts will be made public but without the names or "individual specific information" of priests and others who have challenged the findings, at least in the initial version to be released.
The court wants the redaction process to be completed by Aug. 8, when the 900-page report is expected to be made public. If there are disputes about what a court-appointed special master should black out, the report will go out the following week.
The Supreme Court said it will consider the challenges by some priests and others who say their constitutional rights to their reputations and to due process of law are being violated, based on not being able to address the grand jury.
"We believe that the risk that the grand jury's pronouncements will be seen as carrying the weight of governmental and judicial authority -- and as themselves embodying the voice of the community relative to particular findings -- is substantial," Chief Justice Thomas Saylor wrote.
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I’m with you there. When I first saw the number, I thought the 300 might refer to the number of complaints or allegations since priest abusers not uncommonly have multiple allegations.
I’ve read and reread this a number of times and see nothing that supports my initial thoughts about this in the article however.
For frame of reference there are around 200 active priests currently in the Diocese of Pittsburgh, which is much larger than any which surround it.
Even if you go back and say there were 400 when most of this was occurring, then yes 300 priests over six dioceses seems like a stretch.
What’s the range? Is there a ballpark estimate? Are we talking one suspected molestor per church here? Trying to get a hold on the significance of the 300 number.
The difference is that there is not an institutional hierarchy that diligently protects them. Its one thing for a preacher to molest someone. It’s worse when the higher ups in the church quickly shuffle them elsewhere and hide their activity.
Thank you.
How about the eleventh century?
That is biblical. "Do not receive an accusation against an elder except from two or three witnesses. Those who are sinning rebuke in the presence of all, that the rest also may fear." 1 Tim 5:19-20
When we were kids growing up in Western NY, and I asked my parents if I could do something cause *Everyone else was doing it too*, they’d respond with *Would you go over Niagara Falls in a barrel if everyone else was doing it, too?*
I took the hint (The answer was *no*.)
Someone has to set the standard and just say *NO, it’s not going to be me* and of all people, those who name the name of Christ should be the FIRST ones to take that kind of stand, WHATEVER their denominational affiliation.
And thank you.
And the Catholic church claims to take the moral high ground.
Of ALL places or organizations, a CHURCH should be the absolute LAST place on earth that kind of behavior happens.
I don't care if it's *worse somewhere else*.
How can molesting a child be worse in a public school setting and not so bad in a Catholic church?
It's an abomination ANYWHERE it happens.
Don’t forget to put your money in the plate and confess your sins to the pedophile so he can absolve you. I don’t understand why you would make excuses for this organization. If other churches and schools are commiting these kind of crimes on the same level as the catholic church has been shown to be, then they will all be found out in the end. Don’t think it’s ok because “were not the only ones doing it”.
Don’t forget to put your money in the plate and confess your sins to the pedophile so he can absolve you. I don’t understand why you would make excuses for this organization. If other churches and schools are commiting these kind of crimes on the same level as the catholic church has been shown to be, then they will all be found out in the end. Don’t think it’s ok because “were not the only ones doing it”.
Well that’s why ‘all’ the International Political leaders want to meet with the Pope and his leadership...That’s where the dollars flow out.....and there’s plenty there for the taking because the membership will always refill their coffers............The Morman church is exactly as that as well. Politicians and people of power will always go to where the Money supply never runs out.
My priest is not a pedophile. Yu can’t put all priests into this one category, just like you can’t say that all women are nuts.
Nor all priests are pedophiles.
No.
But is seems 300 in 6 dioceses are.
So how many more are there out there?
I know of a case where a minister was “shuffled to another location” as you say. When he was finally in court they found out that he had molested some 30 children in different church communities.
It happens in non-Catholic setting, too.
You hope.
But even if he isn’t, there’s maybe a 50-50 chance he’s a homosexual.
Which means, if he is, that by the very act of accepting ordination, he violated the binding disciple of the Church. And if he’s not, there’s a strong possibility that the priest sitting next to him, or down the road from him, is a homosexual.
That’s not the point and you’re changing the subject again.
Where’s the condemnation?
Are you ever going to condemn those priests who did this stuff and the higher ups who covered it up?
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