Posted on 06/14/2018 11:52:58 PM PDT by Marchmain
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. (RNS) — The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops opened its spring meeting this week with a stern reproach of the Trump administration’s latest immigration policies, with the group’s president suggesting the new rules on asylum are a “right to life” issue.
Some bishops followed by urging protests, including “canonical penalties” for those who carry out the administration’s new rules. (cut)
Cardinal proposed that a bishops be sent to the border to inspect the detention facilities where children are kept as a “sign of our pastoral concern and protest against the hardening of the American heart.” (continues)
(Excerpt) Read more at religionnews.com ...
First they'll have to find some RC clergy without court orders regarding their presence near children.
A lot of us have bro, and it WAS long ago. 😁😆👍
The Catholic Church (my church). Can’t keep first world membership. So they pander to the Third world.
The sick thing about all this is that the catholics in the US provide the most money for the catholic church than any other group of catholics in the entire world, by far, yet the US bishops do everything they can to undermine the interests of the US catholic community at every turn.
“The floor of hell is paved with the skulls of bishops.” - St. Athanasius
“In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own.” - Thomas Jefferson
First, per definition, "Right to Life" issues are life-and death ones where the State is presuming to authorize or permit the killing of a non-aggressor: abortion, infanticide, euthanasia, suicide, various depredations like embryo-experimentation leading to human death.
Second, these border security issues are not even equivalent. If we were talking about shooting aggressive armed people-smugglers at the border, even that's a police issue, not a right to life issue. Slavery-drug-weapons smugglers are not innocent.
But just policing your border without killing anybody, that's not even comparable in seriousness to the butchery of babies. There's certainly nothing in God's Law or Canon Law that forbids securing your national borders.
Third, these bishops are outside their competence. Public policy issues are not to be commandeered by the clergy in this fashion. Threatening canonical sanctions, that's rich. Let them calmly and factually make their case like any other citizens.
The “right to life” error falls on parents who drag their children across long journeys to cross the U.S. border illegally, which, under U.S. law, puts separation of parents and children at risk.
The Catholic U.S. Conference of Bishops should collectively lose their citizenship and be sent to a lifetime of penance administering to the people where illegals come from.
A Catholic Church child sex abuse bombshell is coming, and Pa. lawmakers had better be on the right side | Maria Panaritis Updated: June 13, 2018 — 5:00 AM EDT
Excerpt:"The warning Tuesday came from Catholic men in the Pennsylvania legislature.
Their names are Tom Murt of Montgomery County, Pat Harkins of Erie, and Mark Rozzi of Reading. They’re guys who go to church or, in Rozzi’s case at least, used to — until he was raped by a priest as a 13-year-old.
A bombshell is coming, they warned during a rally inside the Capitol in Harrisburg. And anyone working alongside them in this, the people’s hall of power, had better be on the right side of things when it does.
An investigative grand jury report into clergy abuse in six of the state’s eight Catholic dioceses may be days away from being made public. Rumored to be 884 pages long, it is expected to make stomachs turn, the product of more than two years’ worth of top-secret subpoenas and testimony led by a team in the Attorney General’s Office.
Let’s hope it shakes everyone to their core. Because lawmakers must be prodded toward justice, once and for all.
Im waiting for such out of Tucson ...
I would say that is a pretty good definition of right to life. I believe these clowns define “right to life,” as people having the right to come to America, break our immigration laws, and live off the American taxpayers. Obviously, I do not agree with that line of thinking. 👎
so....they’re willing to sanction those who refuse to keep the borders wide open, but Nancy Pelosi can continue to vote for abortions at every turn?
Actually Evangelicals are luring away many, many people in Latin America, and it’s driving the Catholic Church bonkers.
The Catholic Church stands firmly against abortion.
Where are you getting your information or is it just your opinion? Please say which it is.
You are familiar with the Constitution?
“life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.”
Note that life comes first!
Yes Catholic Charities, CCHD, Cath Relief Service, and sub-groups of those (legal aid, housing, welfare sign up, classes, etc). The irony of the govt paying a religion for “resettlement” of those here illegally to sign up for more taxpayer funds in dozens of benefits like welfare, food stamps, etc.
Funny thing, this has gone on for many decades and Catholics are only now getting the picture. Trump effect?
Also, the money to Church is relatively small for the govt budget. Millions, not billions (as some trads wrongly state). It’s public info, somewhere. But it’s unprincipled by the bishops. They are juggling pro-life words, trying to dupe their people, apparently considering us fools.
Pope’s recent “seamless garment” letter = “Rejoice and be Glad.”
XLNT definition of RTL. We may have to start using it. Pope and bishops, in dozens of things lately, are clearly organized in effort to redefine pro-life, and much broader than so-called seamless garment. We can just add the def of life being conception (not fertilization!) to natural death.
Statute of Limitations on child abuse in PA is completely *off topic* from USCCB imposing penalties for Trump’s immigration policies. The article also happens to be very badly written and lacking facts.
It could appear this was posted for purpose of defaming religion or bashing Catholics. I hope I’m mistaken.
That is what happens to conversations. Please read previous posts.
The article also happens to be very badly written and lacking facts.
Names given, announcement at a public meeting of what will happen. When the report is released that releases the details, I will ping you so you can see more facts.
It could appear this was posted for purpose of defaming religion or bashing Catholics. I hope I’m mistaken.
It was posted as yet one more reason why many of us left the Roman church - which was the immediate context. Most of us came to saving faith in Christ and then left, but many leave because of sexual abuse also. The Roman church allowed, hid and shuffled around pedophiles worldwide. It is ongoing, organized, and shameful.
It also bothers me if it’s true that what is supposed to be a church charity is in position as a government vendor here. For they can say that this or that ought to be done and yet not expend a thin dime of their own on it.
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