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Islamicize Me and the James White Controversy
Youtube ^ | Vocab Malone

Posted on 06/09/2018 10:27:55 AM PDT by OddLane

Recently, Dr. James White of Alpha & Omega Ministries publicly condemned the YouTube series "Islamicize Me," starring David Wood, Jon McCray, Vocab Malone, and many others. While David, Jon, and Vocab don't usually like to get into inter-Christian disputes, the large volume of complaints by Dr. White's fans have convinced the Apologetics Avengers to reply.


TOPICS: Apologetics
KEYWORDS: davidwood; islamicizeme; jameswhite
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1 posted on 06/09/2018 10:27:55 AM PDT by OddLane
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To: Tax-chick; firebrand

ping.


2 posted on 06/09/2018 10:41:35 AM PDT by OddLane
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To: OddLane

Ive been enjoying the series, David Wood rocks.


3 posted on 06/09/2018 10:48:45 AM PDT by AndyTheBear
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To: AndyTheBear
He's awesome!

Not to diminish the good works that Paul Washer, or Tim Conway, or Ravi Zacharias, or Michael Youssef do, but David Wood is a unique voice speaking out against what I think is the greatest threat to Western civilization right now.

4 posted on 06/09/2018 10:56:03 AM PDT by OddLane
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To: AndyTheBear

Series is hilarious. They actually try to act out the islamie scriptures.


5 posted on 06/09/2018 11:00:44 AM PDT by Zuse (I am disrupted! I am offended! I am insulted! I am outraged!)
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To: OddLane

James White’s whole career is about controversies with others.


6 posted on 06/09/2018 11:10:31 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: vladimir998
Pretty much.

Plus, take a gander this.

Next, please address the substance of my criticism, which has been, plainly, biblically based. Your comments thus far have been highly pragmatic, that is, "Well, it works, and people leave Islam." Well, personally, I am not interested in getting people to leave Islam.

7 posted on 06/09/2018 11:15:19 AM PDT by OddLane
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To: OddLane

Bookmark


8 posted on 06/09/2018 11:37:52 AM PDT by refreshed (But we preach Christ crucified... 1 Corinthians 1:23)
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To: AndyTheBear

Love Halal Hogan!. Also it is scary how good Sam is as an Imam.


9 posted on 06/09/2018 12:24:20 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: OddLane

“Plus, take a gander this.”

Whoa! That’s shocking. He spent so many years trying to get people to leave Catholicism and Mormonism and other faith groups he disagreed with so why is he suddenly hands-off with Islam?


10 posted on 06/09/2018 12:35:15 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: LukeL
I want a Halal Hogan action figure.

That, and a Magic Backpack.

11 posted on 06/09/2018 12:47:38 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: vladimir998
YES!

Compare how he talks about Mormons, or Roman Catholics, to how he talks about, and with, Muslims, people who literally seek to emulate someone who was the LITERAL translator for the Devil.

There's even a devout Muslim who re-uploads all of his videos to Youtube.

12 posted on 06/09/2018 12:49:25 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: OddLane

Islam is a death Cult.

And the Post-Modernist dance in celebration of death and their “right” to be Ignorant.

There is nothing these Leftist know to be true.

They reject truth, logic and reason.

The only thing they Own is that Everything is relative and to be certain is to be Judgemental and that is not allowed.


13 posted on 06/09/2018 1:05:05 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: Zeneta
One of the salient points Wood makes in that live-stream is that yes, he wants Muslims to reject the false "god" of Islam and come to the Cross. However, following James White's advice, even those Muslims who never repented and came to the Cross, but who rejected the death cult that is Islam, wouldn't exist.

Isn't an atheist former Muslim better than someone who still takes the hadiths and the Koran literally-and is thus susceptible to harm and even murder people he knows-and strangers as well?

14 posted on 06/09/2018 1:57:24 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: OddLane
It's always heart-breaking when someone turns away from Christ. However, that doesn't mean we don't have an obligation as Christians to protect the lives of other Christians-and even unbelievers-which are imperiled by the continued existence and growth of Islam.
15 posted on 06/09/2018 2:00:27 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: OddLane

Tommy Robinson - Main Speech

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YQ94jFg_4A


16 posted on 06/09/2018 2:26:15 PM PDT by Zeneta
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To: Zeneta
Thanks!

I've watched snippets from his speech, which was remarkable in many ways, before.

I actually have a Tommy caricature as my profile pic on Twitter, which I'm currently suspended from for a week for stating that Muslims kill people during Ramadan.

Ingrid Mattson, Obama's Muslim whisperer at DHS, didn't appreciate that. Neither did the non-Muslim who mass-reported my tweets.

17 posted on 06/09/2018 2:38:40 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: OddLane
Next, please address the substance of my criticism, which has been, plainly, biblically based. Your comments thus far have been highly pragmatic, that is, "Well, it works, and people leave Islam." Well, personally, I am not interested in getting people to leave Islam.

Just getting them to leave Isalm, still leaves them lost, which is Dr. White's point (obscured by the truncated quote).

18 posted on 06/09/2018 4:23:09 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: Lee N. Field
There are a number of points to be made here.

1. Many, many people-including former Muslims-were atheists/agnostics before they came to the cross. Not everyone repents and confesses Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior the minute they realize that Mohammed was a false prophet.

2. Even if they ultimately are never reconciled to Christ, as heartbreaking as turning away from the way, the truth, and the light is, turning a Muslim who could potentially become a suicide bomber into an apathetic atheist-or an atheist who argues against Islam, and thus persuades more Muslims to reject their false doctrine-is preferable to letting that Muslim wallow in his ignorance and darkness, and potentially harm other believers-and even other unbelievers.

19 posted on 06/09/2018 5:06:59 PM PDT by OddLane
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To: OddLane

Just read that link to White’s criticism. Painful combination of clulessness and pride. Reckon he would have been shocked at Jesus clearing the temple.


20 posted on 06/09/2018 6:48:19 PM PDT by AndyTheBear
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